Mass. sues feds over marriage law

Massachusetts, the first state to legalize gay marriage, sued the U.S.government Wednesday over a federal law that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

[goseabees]

This is another issue that can not be decided by courts when the U.S. Congress has already set the president. Must I remind everybody the courts are only there to rule on a law and it doesn't have the power to change policy.!!!

[Wombat]

We must put this issue to a vote nationally,
It should be on the next Federal election.

[IGetAKickOutOfYo u]

LOL. You two must be having a hissy-fit with s-s marriage LEGAL in both NH and VT.

By the way, goseabees, when courts rule on a law, it very often does change policy. Those dang 'activist judges,' ay?

And this is exactly why the MA AG has filed a suit, contending that the US Congress does NOT have the authority to regulate state marriages. That authority has always rested with the individual states.

[OkieDarren]

Wombat wrote:

We must put this issue to a vote nationally,
It should be on the next Federal election.

Civil rights and equality are declared in the Constitution to be natural, "God-Given." They are NOT subject to a vote.

[Elmer Fudd]

OkieDarren wrote:

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Civil rights and equality are declared in the Constitution to be natural, "God-Given." They are NOT subject to a vote.

You need to actually read the constitution.

[Wow]

You need to read the entire bible, everyone's interpretation of the bible and the constitution. And then take in consideration the times this was written. Don't take things so literally.

[Elmer Fudd]

Wow wrote:

You need to read the entire bible, everyone's interpretation of the bible and the constitution. And then take in consideration the times this was written. Don't take things so literally.

Don't take the constitution literally?

You are insane.

[Wow]

Elmer Fudd wrote:

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Don't take the constitution literally?
You are insane.

I should not have said the constitution, my mistake. You are completly right.

[just me]

Wombat wrote:

We must put this issue to a vote nationally,
It should be on the next Federal election.

AND what? We the people have voted on alot of issues in this state (ma) only to have OUR vote thrown out by the politicians. WE voted out the seat belt--THEY said our vote didnt count and enacted a law anyway---WE voted out gay marriage--THEY threw our votes out and anacted a law allowing gay marriage---SO WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT OUR VOTE WOULD COUNT THIS TIME?

[Vox Pop]

gay marriage is good for business - more weddings & more divorces.

[Brian in MA - not MN]

just me wrote:

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AND what? We the people have voted on alot of issues in this state (ma) only to have OUR vote thrown out by the politicians. WE voted out the seat belt--THEY said our vote didnt count and enacted a law anyway---WE voted out gay marriage--THEY threw our votes out and anacted a law allowing gay marriage---SO WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT OUR VOTE WOULD COUNT THIS TIME?

"We" voted out gay marriage and a law was enacted anyway? What state do you live in? No state that has marriage equality (VT, NH, MA, IA, ME, CT) has ever "voted it out."

[vermont veteran]

Wombat wrote:

We must put this issue to a vote nationally,
It should be on the next Federal election.

Yes but only if one has faith in the people. Have we not become a country where the courts decide every thing?

[Brian in MA - not MN]

Sorry folks, we don't get to vote on the rights of groups of people. Certain rights are enshrined in the US Constitution, others in state constitutions. Legislatures make laws, and if the judiciary branch of government decides that they are unconstitutional, they will be thrown out.

Not voting because you might not get your way is a wuss strategy.

[just me]

REALLY then Califonrnia's prop 8 will be overturned? SORRY already went through the challenges and THE PEOPLE won not the gays. So now all the gays are moving to califonrnia to make sure it passes next time. There is only one cure for gays and it costs about 27 cents apeice. ITS VILE AND DISCUSTING

[vermont veteran]

Brian in MA - not MN wrote:

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"We" voted out gay marriage and a law was enacted anyway? What state do you live in? No state that has marriage equality (VT, NH, MA, IA, ME, CT) has ever "voted it out."

In vermont the courts said the state must pass gay marriage or civil union. Note ! Not what you think is right or let the people vote on this issue but you must pass one

[Shadow Dragon]

just me wrote:

REALLY then Califonrnia's prop 8 will be overturned? SORRY already went through the challenges and THE PEOPLE won not the gays. So now all the gays are moving to califonrnia to make sure it passes next time. There is only one cure for gays and it costs about 27 cents apeice. ITS VILE AND DISCUSTING

You forgot there's federal case pending,and might look like that prop 8 would be overturned there.

[Kelty]

Doing what's right for children is what should take priority.

[steven]

just me wrote:

REALLY then Califonrnia's prop 8 will be overturned? SORRY already went through the challenges and THE PEOPLE won not the gays. So now all the gays are moving to califonrnia to make sure it passes next time. There is only one cure for gays and it costs about 27 cents apeice. ITS VILE AND DISCUSTING

So are you

[We will see]

Time will tell.