Obama becomes bolder on the environment

Obama becomes bolder on the environment

There are 9 comments on the Philly.com story from Aug 11, 2013, titled Obama becomes bolder on the environment. In it, Philly.com reports that:

President Obama's environmental policies are likely to play a prominent role in defining his second term, even as the budget, immigration, and health care still dominate the current political debate.

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LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#1 Aug 11, 2013
The Republican plan to block any successes for his administration and prevent any business being done (deadlock) will probably make any progress a rare thing.

Of course, the result will likely be another Republican freak show and another Democrat president in 2016.

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

Since: Mar 07

formerly Nuneaton

#2 Aug 12, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
The Republican plan to block any successes for his administration and prevent any business being done (deadlock) will probably make any progress a rare thing.
Of course, the result will likely be another Republican freak show and another Democrat president in 2016.
I don't really mind that state of affairs. The republicans are generally blind to Al Quaeda because by & large Al Quaeda are slavers. Thanks to Snowden crimping the Republican freak show @ home (USA), the heat is now getting turned up on the slavers overseas, and the Al Quaeda freak show is not benefiting the Republican party's attempt to extract all the money & enslave all the people by hiding it all. Al Quaeda during the republican time in office was merely an excuse to hide the unsavoury extremism going on @ home (USA) in the background. It remained background until the money ran out...(remember that?).

Interesting thing is that the environment which was the core of the debate in the article was another excuse by said republican freakshow.

As a result they missed a financial resource field and the republican party is as a result going to hell in the old oilfield exploration way.

I am however a mite miffed by the failure of the dems to finish off Ayman Al Zawahiri, whom had always been calling the shots and telling a large number of slaver affiliates what to do.

As a white anglo saxon protestant I actually became a victim of the republican freakshow during the time of Tony Blair in office. As a result of passing my exams as an M.Sc in Petroleum Geology I got "codenamed" which gave me that bloody awful nickname above the avatar pic, and treated as a result exactly like a "soon to be gitmo detainee". The treatment appears to have actually been a prime directive of the Irish & Scottish catholic run labour party, and the codename came as a result of endemic dyslexia featuring the loonies making up the bulk of the labour party top brass (as a result of endemic education failure & a rise through the ranks of a 1920s communist pyramid constitution).

Incidentally The republicans whom call the "right of centre" Democrats 'communists', actually fully favoured the UK labour party whom were @ the time of the Blair/Bush partnership & special relationship actually genuine article "communists" @ the time.

The only influence the Bush regime actually had in the UK @ the time was the total commitment to encouraging Al Quaeda linked madrassas in the UK, AND the run down and destruction of BOTH the UK based oil industry AND the UK based environmental energy generation tech sector. Oh and almost forgot the racking up of a ludicrously large government debt as a result of enforcing a totalitarian "snoop and condemn" campaign versus its own passport holders in the name of Gerrymandering and enforcement of servitude in a fixed employment position/social status determined by external decree/comittee (it happened in the USA too you know).

I urge the USA to vote dem until at least the government debt burden has a 9 figure sum.

Have a nice day: Ag
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#3 Aug 12, 2013
Adrian Godsafe MSc wrote:
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The republicans are generally blind to Al Quaeda ..
I disagree. In my view, Republicans essentially CREATED Al-Quaeda by constantly claiming them to be behind any succcess in international or regional politics. The term was lifted from an old speech from Osama Bin Laden who never claimed to have created such an organization. In fact, I suspect that Bin Laden had a deal with the Bush administration to take the BLAME for 9/11 in return for the US getting out of Saudi Arabia (which was what Osama wanted and which happened quite quickly and without prior notice just as the hunt for Al-Quaeda faded into rhetoric).

But the constant publicity for Al-Quaeda meant that ANYONE could claim membership and be 'promoted' to public enemy of the US, guaranteeing that such an organization WOULD be formed by those wanting to get into it.
Adrian Godsafe MSc wrote:
<quoted text>
Al Quaeda during the republican time in office was merely an excuse to hide the unsavoury extremism going on @ home (USA) in the background. It remained background until the money ran out...(remember that?).
Interesting thing is that the environment which was the core of the debate in the article was another excuse by said republican freakshow.
As a result they missed a financial resource field and the republican party is as a result going to hell in the old oilfield exploration way.
I am however a mite miffed by the failure of the dems to finish off Ayman Al Zawahiri, whom had always been calling the shots and telling a large number of slaver affiliates what to do.
As a white anglo saxon protestant I actually became a victim of the republican freakshow during the time of Tony Blair in office. As a result of passing my exams as an M.Sc in Petroleum Geology I got "codenamed" which gave me that bloody awful nickname above the avatar pic, and treated as a result exactly like a "soon to be gitmo detainee". The treatment appears to have actually been a prime directive of the Irish & Scottish catholic run labour party, and the codename came as a result of endemic dyslexia featuring the loonies making up the bulk of the labour party top brass (as a result of endemic education failure & a rise through the ranks of a 1920s communist pyramid constitution).
Incidentally The republicans whom call the "right of centre" Democrats 'communists', actually fully favoured the UK labour party whom were @ the time of the Blair/Bush partnership & special relationship actually genuine article "communists" @ the time.
The only influence the Bush regime actually had in the UK @ the time was the total commitment to encouraging Al Quaeda linked madrassas in the UK, AND the run down and destruction of BOTH the UK based oil industry AND the UK based environmental energy generation tech sector. Oh and almost forgot the racking up of a ludicrously large government debt as a result of enforcing a totalitarian "snoop and condemn" campaign versus its own passport holders in the name of Gerrymandering and enforcement of servitude in a fixed employment position/social status determined by external decree/comittee (it happened in the USA too you know).
I urge the USA to vote dem until at least the government debt burden has a 9 figure sum.
Have a nice day: Ag
Adrian Godsafe MSc wrote:
<quoted text>
Al Quaeda during the republican time in office was merely an excuse to hide the unsavoury extremism going on @ home (USA) in the background. It remained background until the money ran out...(remember that?).
It (and the "war on terror") was primarily a way to keep the military/industrial contracts coming, replacing the obsolete 'cold war'. But the MAIN enemy of the US government is the citizens who can vote them out of office. So the war on the public goes on.. They must be kept pacified and confused while also being monitored to prevent anyone organizing anything 'grass roots'.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#4 Aug 12, 2013
Adrian Godsafe MSc wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh and almost forgot the racking up of a ludicrously large government debt as a result of enforcing a totalitarian "snoop and condemn" campaign versus its own passport holders in the name of Gerrymandering and enforcement of servitude in a fixed employment position/social status determined by external decree/comittee (it happened in the USA too you know).
The massive government debt is a direct result of TWO 'unfunded' wars. Congress never passed any finance bills for them so they go directly to the national debt. And after nearly a decade of war, the public debt is about equal to that after WW2. The difference being that THIS time the right wing ALSO refuse to pay the lions share as they did after WW2 (having, of course, the lions share of the profits).

So the debt becomes entrenched and the interest becomes a burden on the necessary programs for the PUBLIC.

The problem though is that Obama is not doing enough to control it (fearing even bigger problems with causing a collapse of the fragile recovery) while Republicans continue to try to get the poor to pay for it.

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

Since: Mar 07

formerly Nuneaton

#5 Aug 19, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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I disagree. In my view, Republicans essentially CREATED Al-Quaeda by constantly claiming them to be behind any succcess in international or regional politics. The term was lifted from an old speech from Osama Bin Laden who never claimed to have created such an organization. In fact, I suspect that Bin Laden had a deal with the Bush administration to take the BLAME for 9/11 in return for the US getting out of Saudi Arabia (which was what Osama wanted and which happened quite quickly and without prior notice just as the hunt for Al-Quaeda faded into rhetoric).
But the constant publicity for Al-Quaeda meant that ANYONE could claim membership and be 'promoted' to public enemy of the US, guaranteeing that such an organization WOULD be formed by those wanting to get into it.
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
It (and the "war on terror") was primarily a way to keep the military/industrial contracts coming, replacing the obsolete 'cold war'. But the MAIN enemy of the US government is the citizens who can vote them out of office. So the war on the public goes on.. They must be kept pacified and confused while also being monitored to prevent anyone organizing anything 'grass roots'.
Inclined to agree.

The Moslem brotherhood of ancient UAE type Egypt apparently originated the pro religious theocratic slavery idiom. They have not gone down well in Egypt as a result of 99.9% of the population refusing to work as slaves.

Have a nice day: Ag

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

Since: Mar 07

formerly Nuneaton

#6 Aug 19, 2013
Had to dash due to a moron kicking out the glass in the fire alarm (for the 2nd time in the day).

Interest in Egypt currently is due to continuing trouble with the theocrats. However unlike Al Quaeda proper (whom appear to be a combination of yemeni slavers & Saudi camel chasers {peculiar interference with breeding appears to be a feature of camel chasers in that region}); the Moslem brotherhood instead appear to be allied with Hamas & appear to have gone down with a bad case of the shiites.

The USA appears to be subject to the same theocratic slavery and although their constitution appears to ban the influence of the state on religion (a primary constitution constituent), it remains completely blind to the interference of religion on the state. This is why the republican party lost so much money on short termism & caste system enforcement (copied by the Blair Brown hegemony in the UK).

One note is that in all cases the bias toward theocracy is based upon the short term "get rich quick & god will pay to repair the damage".
This appears to be allied to both the "snake oil sellers"(magic potions), "manic street preacher cultists"(child abuse), and "tel-evangelists"(do nations for the head of the cult).

The results on the state in the cases of theocracy is profound & nasty.

The interesting thing is that Iran is currently NOT the only theocratic state; It went down with a bad case of the shiites a while back and one of those overly religious city states which will destroy itself when it has run out of other targets to pick on.
The other neighbouring theocracy is now Pakistan which has been taken over by religious nutters in the classic American style, and is now attempting to rob the IMF having robbed everybody gullible enough to donate money. Pakistan differs from Iran in that it contains multiple cliques of religious nutters and collectively has gone down with a bad case of the shites (an I is missing). The difference results in internal & external conflict and will either destroy itself in an internal clique conflict,or destroy itself in a war with a neighbour precipitated by one clique looking for influence OR losing an internal conflict. Also in all cases the cliques of religious nutters are expansionist & are attempting to conquer & enslave their conquests. The result is that the UN recognised state of Pakistan appears to be beginning an enema.

It appears that the USA invaded the wrong country during the war on terror. In large part due to the religious lunatic clique effect seen in Pakistan being copied in the Republican party hierarchy @ the time.

I will not mourn the passing of Pakistan as a named state. The cause of its demise may be Iran, or China rather than India despite the provocation from the more lunatic of the religious nutters.

The Al Quaeda group per se is now a more prominent member of the theocratic nutter cliques in pakistan but it is not the only one. Currently we (in the West) are in a respite as a result of the outbreak of the sunni-shia civil war. The western democracies would do well (live longer)removing the overly religious from influence in governance during the ongoing civil war between Sunni & Shia extremists & slavers.
Eventually a world war will ensue when one side of those bunches of idiots conquers & destroys the other. At that point the climate of annihilation will change to the neighbours outside of the borders of the Arabic states.

The fun bit is of course that the prior 1950s banana republics (communist & faschist) of the cold war went down as a result of food shortages.
Changes in the climate mode are hard to cope with in a state of religious ignorance OR war.

The death toll & refugee crisis @ present is minor compared with the future. Picking a side on 1950s lines is a BAD idea nowadays as you may be shot in the back by a religious nutter thought to be a key ally. Both the republicans & democrats are subject to that mistake. "climate change!".

have a nice day: Ag
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#7 Aug 19, 2013
Adrian Godsafe MSc wrote:
Had to dash due to a moron kicking out the glass in the fire alarm (for the 2nd time in the day).
Interest in Egypt currently is due to continuing trouble with the theocrats.
I am going to present a different viewpoint. The Muslim Brotherhood is USING religion to unite themselves in POWER, more than they are setting up a theocracy (except by default). Their main purpose was to become an 'elected dictatorship' with all the perks and preferences, even incorporating their power into the constitution.

Egyptians of a secular or Christian background were then denied the economic benefits and THAT is what is currently driving the new revolution in Egypt.

As to fixing it, Democracy in Egypt will never come about UNLESS they adopt a purely SECULAR constitution, the president MUST be accountable to the law, and the parliament must include both the winner and the opposition parties with power. Most people think of Democracy as 'having elections' but it is NOT. Nothing about Democracy demands elections. That is just a mechanism that was popular in the rise of the 'representative democracy' ideology.

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

Since: Mar 07

formerly Nuneaton

#8 Sep 2, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
I am going to present a different viewpoint. The Muslim Brotherhood is USING religion to unite themselves in POWER, more than they are setting up a theocracy (except by default). Their main purpose was to become an 'elected dictatorship' with all the perks and preferences, even incorporating their power into the constitution.
Egyptians of a secular or Christian background were then denied the economic benefits and THAT is what is currently driving the new revolution in Egypt.
As to fixing it, Democracy in Egypt will never come about UNLESS they adopt a purely SECULAR constitution, the president MUST be accountable to the law, and the parliament must include both the winner and the opposition parties with power. Most people think of Democracy as 'having elections' but it is NOT. Nothing about Democracy demands elections. That is just a mechanism that was popular in the rise of the 'representative democracy' ideology.
Agreed.

Adolph Hitler [nee. Schickelgruber](a classic dictator nominally described as faschist); was voted into power by a democratic institution. Look what happened next...

The interesting thing was that he stole his ideas from a mideastern culture extant in Eastern Europe, and wedded it to a bizarre arthouse style local cult based on either teutonic knight legends or wierd tales in the archives of the hanseatic league.

Either way round, the democratic institution that voted him into power was removed from office fairly shortly afterward on pretext of war.

The even more bizarre thing is that the war he provoked allowed a large number of wannabe dictators to preserve their grip on power once achieved (such as Joseph Stalin (not sure of his original name as it was definitely changed; [whom was nominally communist]).

What we are seeing incidentally right now is a resurgence of that same mideastern culture (based on slavery, conquest and treasure @ not necessarily in order of importance to each individual shooting @ their neighbours).

The preservation of democratic institutions in situations like that in the mideast is something that can only be done by an institution that thinks as a state. Fair play to the Egyptian army in still believing that the country has borders and is a viable institution.

States that have failed in that respect are Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, Iraq (with a bit of outside help from the USA), North Sudan and Afghanistan, and nominally also Mali, and the Central african republic (which is now a crumpled wreck following its crash).

States about to fail are Tunisia, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey,(gone down with a bad case of the shiites, but upset by its southern neighbours), and one or more of the southern ex soviet states bordering Afghanistan & Iran,@ subject to the Sunni-Shia civil war.

Interesting that I have currently not mentioned Israel which is also a mideastern culture. In large part it is because it has a state identity similar to Egypt, but in the case if Israel it has not set its borders, and has yet to discard slavery from its culture (which means that when they let the slaves in from the ghettos the bombs start going off).

In Syria which is now the hotbed of the mideastern culture in action... the ongoing Sunni Shia civil war fought over by wannabe dictators & their followers is becoming very bad for their local environment. The good guys that can possibly be supported by an outside country are now by & large resident in camps outside the borders. Their time spent as good guys in that situation is going to be very short, as they are an exploitable resource for the mideastern culture and the last thing exploitable in that culture is the people (lots of slavers converging on those camps right now).

In large part the vote not to support a side in syria in parliament (UK) is because there are now no good guys inside the borders that can be supported.

have a nice day: Ag

“Geologist [I'm Climate Change]”

Since: Mar 07

formerly Nuneaton

#9 Sep 2, 2013
I do have a feeling that preserviong the environment is a good idea in the Syrian region.

Destroying the chemical weapons stores in Syria removing their use by all sides in the conflict is a good idea. Best idea is to initially use bunker busters to break the canisters... Then to follow up with a dump over the site of 70/30 moonshine in large volume with incendiaries mixed in. which will both dissolve chemical weapon splash and ignite it (it is an organic compound & will burn).

The only thing to ensure is that the looeys in the airforce mech & logistics do not drink the moonshine (bad for the eyes & tends to blister the skin in large doses, but very good for de coking engines).

This at least will stop its usage in populated areas outside of the ongoing warzone.

Have a nice day: Ag

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