Hawaii creates nearly 1,200 jobs with federal stimulus funds - ...

The federal government today was expected to release the first quarterly report assessing the employment impact of federal stimulus money, including the creation of jobs in Hawaii.

[Bob_Mililani]

Where then does the money come from to retain these new positions once the federal stimulus money runs out? I hope these jobs actually contribute to the productivity of an organization rather than adding to the unnecessary bloat in some departments.

[Making Sense]

I'm confused. Yes, we need more jobs, but I thought there were too much government jobs and that's why we are in this situation. Didn't they just say our government is too large? If the federal stimulus funds generates 1,175 more state jobs, then who will pick up the paychecks when the federal funds are depleted? If I'm not mistaken, the state will have to pick up the payroll if these positions become permanent positions. Why can't they put this funds to offset the budget just like they used other federal stimulus funds that were given? With all the CHAOS in our children's education, why generate 549 more jobs in DOE? Use these funds for our children so they can get their 17 educational days back.

[Riche]

549+273+27+17+16+12=894. Where are the 281 others? Another democratic cook the books?

[realmerv]

Funny, I thought the Dept. of Hawaiian Homes was laying off people this year. I didn't even know they received some stimulus money.

How many of the 1,175 jobs are for jobs saved and how many are actually brand new full-time jobs?

I know this is breaking news and more paragraphs will be added to this article. I hope Gary Kubota can do a little more research and provide the readers with breakdowns of dollar amounts for each State department along with the kinds of jobs that were created. Otherwise, there will be too many question marks.

[geeeee]

just furlough these people and save the money. and does education get the most money again

[reasonable]

Wow, only $250,000 a job. Wish I made that much money.

[noend]

BULL SHIT....who are you trying to kid

[realmerv]

Listening to Robert Gibbs on tv just now, the jobs are supposed to be created but not quite created. It seems that they are figuring how many jobs it would take to spend the stimulus money the State of Hawaii received. So if you actually checked with the DOE, 549 jobs may not have actually been created but it would take 549 workers to work on the program.

So it seems that the headline should have read, "Hawaii will use 1,200 workers to spend the Federal Stimulus funds." This is more believable and would be closer to the truth.

Yeah, I was wondering what ever happened to the State's hiring freeze that Lingle imposed.

[realmerv]

Now I understand why Obama keeps saying his Stimulus program will save or create jobs. With unemployment continuously getting worse, the stimulus money can keep many workers from being laid off earlier so the funds are saving their jobs for a while.

But he should have doubled or tripled the number of jobs saved since it wouldn't be verifiable ... but I guess that would be stretching it too much.

[noend]

this is B..L-S..T......this country is still screwed-up......that stimilus money will need to be payed back by us the taxpayers....WAKE-UP america....any idiot can give money away (especially if it aint HIS)the only way to save money and get back to where we were is to get rid of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,,,the biggest waste of taxpayers money

[HayninAk]

The bailout and TARP funds are going to be used historically to define the magnitude of the failuere of the Obama admnistration.

Today on NPR the new CEO of General Motors indicated that the US taxpayer has pumped about $50 billion into GM coffers over the last year. In exchange, the taxpayer is now owed about $7.1 billion and and has a 61% equity stake in GM. The interview ended with him saying "this is probably something we shouldn't have done."

[maleko]

Riche wrote:

549+273+27+17+16+12=894. Where are the 281 others? Another democratic cook the books?

No - just a former public school student who can't add!

[WestSide Lady]

more obamash*t...read yesterday how inflated the 'new jobs' numbers are (story in the Advertiser) Guess the SB didn't pick up the same story, yeah?

One company claimed 4200 new jobs...real number less than 1000. another company claimed 125 new jobs...oops, just pay raises for the current workers.

same ol' same ol' political BS.

[Fed Up]

More BS from our government is right. There's no multiplier effect from government "stimulus" - all it does is either take money from taxpayers, or print money (debt and/or devalued dollar)... and spend it. Let's not fall for the illusion that it "stimulates" anything.

It's as if we all took out our credit cards and bought a bunch of items to "stimulate" the economy. Sure, our spending would give businesses a temporary boost, and might even "create jobs" short-term... but what happens when that credit card debt comes due - as it ultimately must at some point?

I wonder how long we citizens are going to put up with this? If everyone had an understanding of some basic finance and economics, we would never allow them to get away with this. The politicians count on our ignorance to let them continue this shibai and keep them in their jobs.

I'm so sick and disillusioned with government, the politicians, and Wall Street. If and when people finally realize how we've been getting burned, there will be lynch mobs storming Washington.

[Tama Samoa]

RECESSION; when your neighbor loses his job

DEPRESSION; when you lose your job

RECOVERY; when Obummer da liar LOSES his job

YES WE CAN!!!!!

[Tama Samoa]

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs downplayed errors in job counts identified by the AP's review, telling reporters, "We're talking about 4,000, or a 5,000 error."

The AP reviewed a sample of federal contracts, not all 9,000 reported to date, and discovered errors in one in six jobs credited to the $787 billion stimulus program — or 5,000 of the 30,000 jobs claimed so far.

Even in its limited review, the AP found job counts that were more than 10 times as high as the actual number of paid positions; jobs credited to the stimulus program that were counted two and sometimes more than four times; and other jobs that were credited to stimulus spending when none was produced.

For example:

_ Some recipients of stimulus money used the cash to give existing employees pay raises, but each reported saving dozens of jobs with the money, including one Florida day care that claimed 129 jobs saved.

_ A Texas contractor whose business kept 22 employees to handle stimulus contracts saw its job count inflated to 88 because the same workers were counted four times.

_ The water department in Palm Beach County, Fla., hired 57 meter readers, customer service representatives and other positions to handle two water projects. But their total job count was incorrectly doubled to 114.

[Tama Samoa]

"You can fool some peole some time, but you can not fool all the people all time." Abraham Lincoln

You can lie to people some time but you can not keep lying to people all the tim." Tama Samoa...lol

I say lets start the impeachment process and save our nation from being ruin by this liar in washington...yes we can...

[realmerv]

Tama Samoa wrote:

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs downplayed errors in job counts identified by the AP's review, telling reporters, "We're talking about 4,000, or a 5,000 error."
The AP reviewed a sample of federal contracts, not all 9,000 reported to date, and discovered errors in one in six jobs credited to the $787 billion stimulus program — or 5,000 of the 30,000 jobs claimed so far.
Even in its limited review, the AP found job counts that were more than 10 times as high as the actual number of paid positions; jobs credited to the stimulus program that were counted two and sometimes more than four times; and other jobs that were credited to stimulus spending when none was produced.
For example:
_ Some recipients of stimulus money used the cash to give existing employees pay raises, but each reported saving dozens of jobs with the money, including one Florida day care that claimed 129 jobs saved.
_ A Texas contractor whose business kept 22 employees to handle stimulus contracts saw its job count inflated to 88 because the same workers were counted four times.
_ The water department in Palm Beach County, Fla., hired 57 meter readers, customer service representatives and other positions to handle two water projects. But their total job count was incorrectly doubled to 114.

Sounds like the White House used Acorn workers to count the jobs created. Basic instruction given to all new Acorn worker seems to be to inflate the numbers. I wonder if the person counting was being paid by the number of jobs created?

[Stop whinning]

All State jobs, which in three years we will be paying for, the taxpayers. Stimulus crap. Bloated Government

[realmerv]

Tama Samoa wrote:

"You can fool some peole some time, but you can not fool all the people all time." Abraham Lincoln
You can lie to people some time but you can not keep lying to people all the tim." Tama Samoa...lol
I say lets start the impeachment process and save our nation from being ruin by this liar in washington...yes we can...

I don't think what Abraham Lincoln said applies to the majority of the people in Hawaii.