Immigrants struggle to get back pay

"We are seeing an uptick," said Melvina Ford, the executive director of the DC Employment Justice Center, which provides legal advice and assistance to low-income workers. [C.N.N.]Wednesday October 28th Reported in this article.Immigrant rights groups help illegals to receive back pay.Although illegal those individuals under law may have same rights as Americans,

[offworld]

Pay em and ship em back.
Quit breaking the laws.....government.

[pug]

"Hernandez's problem was further complicated by the fact that he is an illegal immigrant. He came to the United States to earn money to send to his family back in Mexico. Illegal immigrants working in low-paying jobs are increasingly targeted by employers, experts say, who find it easier not to pay their salaries.

And even though undocumented workers receive the same protection as U.S. citizens when it comes to claiming unpaid wages, many are hesitant to go to the authorities."

The Illegal is treated like a citizen why bother with citizenship?

Will he be paying Federal Income Tax? NOT

[shine4me]

There you go...is there ANY human being in this World that doesn't have rights? Those who are here illegally should only have the right to being treated as human being not as an "American". Therefore, whatever they obtained illegally should never be considered theirs.

[shine4me]

should have read: as 'a' human being...

[Rebel]

Absolutely ridiculous. The employer should be fined and jailed, and the illegal shipped home. That's his/her pay -- free ride home.

When will this end? I cannot go out and commit crimes that bring in money, get caught and be allowed to keep my ill-gotten gains, no matter how hard I worked at committing my crime!

Why the special treatment for illegal alien invaders?

We have to get our government to provide equal treatment -- either we can all commit crimes and not be worried about the consequences, as well as be allowed to keep our ill-gotten gains, or the illegals get to be treated as we are and suffer the consequences of their illegal actions!

[Independent patriot]

I'd like to know why these illgal alien rights groups aren't arrested for aiding, abetting and encouraging illegals to work in the USA. What they're doing is expressly against USA immigration laws. They're committing a felony and under our laws are required to be fined and/or imprisoned.

The only way they can legally argue for rights for illegals is in front of an immigration judge.

It goes without saying that if illegals are stupid enough to sneak into another country, they deserve to be taken advantage of. What goes around, comes around, you get as good as you give. What, did they expect to be LIKED, or something? Please.

[john]

Independent patriot wrote:

I'd like to know why these illgal alien rights groups aren't arrested for aiding, abetting and encouraging illegals to work in the USA. What they're doing is expressly against USA immigration laws. They're committing a felony and under our laws are required to be fined and/or imprisoned.
The only way they can legally argue for rights for illegals is in front of an immigration judge.
It goes without saying that if illegals are stupid enough to sneak into another country, they deserve to be taken advantage of. What goes around, comes around, you get as good as you give. What, did they expect to be LIKED, or something? Please.

I would like to know why illegals and their enablers aren't charged with terrorism. As a groups illegals use tax payer provided services without paying taxes, use the ER and without paying for the service, and flee the USA after injurying a US citizen. All these actions are terrorism, if an Arab person did any of these things the federal government would place them in chains faster than they can "Death to America".

[RadicalTim]

Odd , they didn't legally qualify for employment, now their complaining ?

[pay now or pay later]

Coming soon to a city near you.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-wage2...

Alarcon backs wage guarantees for day workers

On a recent day at the UCLA Labor Center next to MacArthur Park, UCLA students helped workers draft letters to former employers demanding back pay.

Construction worker Santos Morales told the students that he was owed $415 for fixing a garage at a house four months ago.

Morales, 40, said he doesn't have the right to get a driver's license or immigration documents but that he does have the right to recover his wages.

"I am not asking for anything that isn't owed to me," he said. "I did the work."

[pug]

pay now or pay later wrote:

Coming soon to a city near you.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-wage2...
Alarcon backs wage guarantees for day workers
On a recent day at the UCLA Labor Center next to MacArthur Park, UCLA students helped workers draft letters to former employers demanding back pay.
Construction worker Santos Morales told the students that he was owed $415 for fixing a garage at a house four months ago.
Morales, 40, said he doesn't have the right to get a driver's license or immigration documents but that he does have the right to recover his wages.
"I am not asking for anything that isn't owed to me," he said. "I did the work."

Heavy fines for those who hire illegals

[Walt Green]

[QUOTE who="pug]
Will he be paying Federal Income Tax? NOT
[/QUOTE]

Wrong. Illegal immigrants have taxes deducted from their paychecks, but they don't file returns and don't get refunds (gov't generally requires employers to over-withhold). Plus, they have social security and medicare taxes withheld, for which they will see no benefit. I don't want them there either, but how about we try to use facts to support our arguments.

[shine4me]

offworld wrote:

Pay em and ship em back.
Quit breaking the laws.....government.

While we're at it...why don't we just keep rewarding their criminal behavior? When they steal from us, we don't pay them jack-sheet. When a robber robs a bank we don't pay him interest on that money do we!

Immigrants are struggling? What about the Americans who are struggling!!!!!

[shine4me]

pug wrote:

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Heavy fines for those who hire illegals

Fines end up punishing the consumers - I say we should just shut their businesses down for operating illegally!

[shine4me]

pay now or pay later wrote:

Coming soon to a city near you.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-wage2...
Alarcon backs wage guarantees for day workers
On a recent day at the UCLA Labor Center next to MacArthur Park, UCLA students helped workers draft letters to former employers demanding back pay.
Construction worker Santos Morales told the students that he was owed $415 for fixing a garage at a house four months ago.
Morales, 40, said he doesn't have the right to get a driver's license or immigration documents but that he does have the right to recover his wages.
"I am not asking for anything that isn't owed to me," he said. "I did the work."

It's not as if people like "Santos Morales" didn't know the risk he was running. A drug dealer delivers drugs - should he still expect to get paid for it?

[Asian Guy]

I wouldn't give them a dime.

if they are illegal, confiscate all their assets and send them back to their home countries with just the shirts on their back.

if they are illegal, they have no business being in america. PERIOD.

[pug]

Walt Green wrote:

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Wrong. Illegal immigrants have taxes deducted from their paychecks, but they don't file returns and don't get refunds (gov't generally requires employers to over-withhold). Plus, they have social security and medicare taxes withheld, for which they will see no benefit. I don't want them there either, but how about we try to use facts to support our arguments.

Wrong they see PLENTY of benefits. The benefits FAR out way the little taxes deducted.

Look up anchor baby, Visit your local Soc Sec Office.

"But PRUCOL aliens are not nearly the major threat to social security. The Bush administration has reportedly completed a draft of a treaty between the U.S. and Mexico that will give the Mexican government at least $345 billion in Social Security payments for Mexicans who have worked in the U.S. legally and illegally. The treaty, which is unique in that it provides a foreign government Social Security money even for those of its citizens who have worked illegally in America, may be timed to coincide with the 2004 elections.

If the draft treaty becomes law, it will dismantle the chief provision of the 1996 Welfare Reform Act, a law which has saved U.S. taxpayers $72 billion since inception, because it will give Social Security payments to illegal aliens and legal aliens who have not paid into our payroll tax system for the requisite 10 years.

There are other assaults to Social Security. For years, local Social Security offices have issued Social Security cards to illegal aliens if one was requested in connection with an application for a state driver's license. Social Security Administration employees and supervisors, like Yolanda Vargas in Texas and Andrea Turner in New Jersey, have been caught selling Social Security cards to illegal aliens, who use them later in life to apply for benefits.

Most federal agencies regard a person whose immediate relative has just petitioned her into the country as a PRUCOL alien, and therefore someone potentially eligible for public assistance. So it was that Annie filed a petition for her mother, who had never paid taxes. She was paroled into the U.S., stopped working and started receiving her check about 14 months later."

Your FICA dollars are given freely to Illegal aliens. How much did they put into the system? ZERO

[Walt Green]

pug wrote:

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Wrong they see PLENTY of benefits. The benefits FAR out way the little taxes deducted.
Look up anchor baby, Visit your local Soc Sec Office.
"But PRUCOL aliens are not nearly the major threat to social security. The Bush administration has reportedly completed a draft of a treaty between the U.S. and Mexico that will give the Mexican government at least $345 billion in Social Security payments for Mexicans who have worked in the U.S. legally and illegally. The treaty, which is unique in that it provides a foreign government Social Security money even for those of its citizens who have worked illegally in America, may be timed to coincide with the 2004 elections.
If the draft treaty becomes law, it will dismantle the chief provision of the 1996 Welfare Reform Act, a law which has saved U.S. taxpayers $72 billion since inception, because it will give Social Security payments to illegal aliens and legal aliens who have not paid into our payroll tax system for the requisite 10 years.
There are other assaults to Social Security. For years, local Social Security offices have issued Social Security cards to illegal aliens if one was requested in connection with an application for a state driver's license. Social Security Administration employees and supervisors, like Yolanda Vargas in Texas and Andrea Turner in New Jersey, have been caught selling Social Security cards to illegal aliens, who use them later in life to apply for benefits.
Most federal agencies regard a person whose immediate relative has just petitioned her into the country as a PRUCOL alien, and therefore someone potentially eligible for public assistance. So it was that Annie filed a petition for her mother, who had never paid taxes. She was paroled into the U.S., stopped working and started receiving her check about 14 months later."
Your FICA dollars are given freely to Illegal aliens. How much did they put into the system? ZERO

Your examples, even if true, don't refute my point about the taxes paid by people working here illegaly.

[shine4me]

Walt Green wrote:

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Your examples, even if true, don't refute my point about the taxes paid by people working here illegaly.

Should their tax dollars work for them when our tax dollars are not working for us? Who cares about the taxes paid by law-breakers. Their money is stolen and the taxes "they paid" should go to fighting the war against illegal immigration.

[shine4me]

Maybe we should just give them IOU's...

[pug]

Walt Green wrote:

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Your examples, even if true, don't refute my point about the taxes paid by people working here illegaly.

From the L. A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people)are working for cash and not paying taxes This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8 Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10.. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County .)

(All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth(and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens .

Interesting article eh Walt