Isle residents need more details about health reform - Hawaii E...

Hawaii's 35-year-old health care law should remain intact in the event of enactment of federal health care reform, Hawaii's congressional delegation has assured.

[mischal]

Does anyone think our delegation has read the health care reform bill to be able to be informative on it?! If there is a public option, Hawaii will wind up in the same boat as every other state, forced onto the govt. plan, sooner or later. Federal law will always supercede state law if there is a conflict. We won`t have an efficient health care system as private carriers will be forced out and Medicare is being gutted. The administration wants a single payer system; Hawaii will be included. This public option will be the ruination of quality health care nationwide, not to mention raise the deficit and taxes. I, for one, am no longer gullible enough to believe in these `assurances` from our leaders!

[willie]

The house bill started as 1000 pages, is now 2000 pages and will likely be 2300 by the time they vote.

When was the last time you read a 2300 page book and how long did it take you? Of course they are NOT infomed on it, they only care about whatever pork they insist be in it is in it.

President Obama said he wanted it to cost 900 billion or less, it is currently "estimated" at 1.2 trillion (anyone believe that will be the real number?)and will only cover 2%. Seems to me it would be cheaper to just BUY those 2% a Blue Cross policy than to screw up the entire system to cover them.

[ha ha ha]

U.S. Rep. Neil Abercrombie says the congressional delegation has been promised that where any provision "gives less than what the (1974) Prepaid Health Care Act does in Hawaii, Hawaii law takes precedence" because Hawaii's law "is so good, so ahead of its time."

I GOT SOME WARM LAVA LAND AT KALAPANA FOR SALE--MAYBE ABERCROMBIE CAN SELL THIS FOR ME TOO TO THE PUBLIC--A JOKE WHICH IS BEIUNG VOTED ON FRIDAY

THEY-DEMOCRATS--WILL VOTE FOR ANYTHING AND SO WILL OBAMA APPROVE--

DAMN WITH THE PEOPLE FUTURE---IT ALL ABOUT BIG WIN AND GOVERNMENT CONTROL/WE NEED NOW TO COME BEGGING TO THEM---

[Jerry Okamura]

Think medical inflation. Medical inflation is runnig at or above 8% per year. How would that affect the cost of health insurance, over the long haul? How are you going to pay for that increase in cost that is due to inflation? Why is medical inflation higher than the Consumer Price Index? What would happen if the Medical inflation rate was not higher than the Consumer Price Index? What would happen if the Medical Inflation rate was lower than the Consumer Price Index? What would it take to reduce the Medical Inflation Rate? Would we have a cost problem with healthcare, if the Medical Inflation Rate was much lower? Did you know that the Medical Inflation Rate was lower than the Consumer Price Index before 1950 and that since 1950 it has been consistently higher than the Consumer Price Index? What caused that to happen? If you do not know how that happened, how can you reduce the influence of Medical Inflation?

[willie]

Jerry Okamura wrote:

Think medical inflation. Medical inflation is runnig at or above 8% per year. How would that affect the cost of health insurance, over the long haul? How are you going to pay for that increase in cost that is due to inflation? Why is medical inflation higher than the Consumer Price Index? What would happen if the Medical inflation rate was not higher than the Consumer Price Index? What would happen if the Medical Inflation rate was lower than the Consumer Price Index? What would it take to reduce the Medical Inflation Rate? Would we have a cost problem with healthcare, if the Medical Inflation Rate was much lower? Did you know that the Medical Inflation Rate was lower than the Consumer Price Index before 1950 and that since 1950 it has been consistently higher than the Consumer Price Index? What caused that to happen? If you do not know how that happened, how can you reduce the influence of Medical Inflation?

No more leading edge discoveries, no MRI machines..back to leeches and trepanning...contain costs.

Gee I wonder if Uncle Sam can contain costs, how much has he spent just THIS year?

[Yeah]

willie wrote:

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No more leading edge discoveries, no MRI machines..back to leeches and trepanning...contain costs.
Gee I wonder if Uncle Sam can contain costs, how much has he spent just THIS year?

Maybe we should. They already use leeches. They even use maggots. And they do a much better job in many cases than "medicine" can, which is why they're being used.

Aside from generic drugs, I've never seen the cost of anything medical go down. Now even the parking fee. And that's so unlike other technological achievements where prices go down over time as usage and acceptance goes up.

But hey, if you're rich enough, you don't need no stinkin' insurance, right?

[AlgeBrah]

1. No one from HI has read the bill

2. If it was read to them, no one would understand it.

3. The HSB Editors are concerned since, after freeloading their whole lives, they will now be held accountable for their own insurance when the newspaper drops their coverage. Yes we can...blah

[ha ha ha]

IF THE PUBLIC OPTION HEALTH CARE BILL IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOO GOOD--
WHY DOES HAWAII PLEAD FOR AN EXEMPTION.... IF IT IS SUCH A GOOD PROPOSED LAW

WHY DOESNT CONGRESS GO INTO THE PUBLIC OPTION...AND GET OUT OF ITS PRESENT LUCRATIVE HEALTH PLAN?

THE DEMOCRATS DONT THINK THE DUMB PUBLIC KNOWS WHATS GOING ON

THE STAR BULL DUMBS DOWN THE PUBLIC TOO WITH THIS NONSENSICAL EDITORIAL WHICH SAYS---"HEY CONGRESSMAN PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PLAN BETTER TO THE DUMB P[UBLIC" HAHAHA

THE STAR BULL SHOULD EAT CROW FOR THIS EDITORIAL

[tama2cool2]

From the San Mateo Daily Journal:
"If anyone is still confused about the proposed health care bill, let's clear up the confusion.
We're going to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose head says he does'nt understand it, passed by a Congress that has'nt read it, but exempts themselves from it, signed by a president that also has'nt read it and who smokes, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who did'nt pay his taxes, overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese, and financed by a country that that's nearly broke."
"Does everyone understand it now? Jimmy Carter said it right,'Americans must learn to accpt less'.

Joseph Locasto
San Mateo, Ca.

I found that pretty right on and funny..aloha M-A-T-E-O!