Lois Henry: Dog torturing a sign of more violence to come

Aug 4, 2013 Full story: Bakersfield.com 14

One good thing that came out of the Lacey case was that the Friends of the Kern County Animal Shelters Foundation created an emergency medical fund for animals seized by law enforcement in cruelty cases.

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mojo karma cookie

San Mateo, CA

#1 Aug 4, 2013
from the article :

http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/columni...

In late January of this year, Gonzales was sentenced to a year in Wasco State Prison for the escape.

With any luck, he may actually still be there.

I called psychologist Lindner to ask her thoughts on the Gonzales case. She hadn't forgotten him.

"I think of him every time I go to Bakersfield," she said. Lindner's office is in Frazier Park.

While she couldn't speak about Gonzales, specifically, Lindner did talk in general terms about the role animal abuse can play in other forms of violence.

"It's a similar landscape," she said. "Anything that's seen as smaller or weaker or is seen as a trigger or gets in way, gets aggressed against."

That can easily include children.

Kern County's justice system doesn't use programs like AniCare very often, she said. Part of the problem is there just aren't enough therapists trained in that type of treatment.

"I'm in Frazier Park and I've been called on a couple of cases, but we know there are far more" Lindner said.

Yes, but what I discovered looking through animal cruelty cases two years ago is that most are charged as misdemeanors, which typically don't go to trial and don't result in more than fines and simple probation.

Lindner agreed that animal cruelty cases should be charged at the highest level possible. That might land more people in jail or prison. Ideally, animal abuse therapy should become a mandatory part those sentences.

Given the lack of jail space, though, Lindner also suggested ways to focus on prevention.

"We need a lot more cross reporting," she said. "We know that if there's animal abuse in a family, very often chances are 80 percent or higher that you're going to find spousal and child abuse, or even elder abuse."

Sharing information between law enforcement, animal control officers, teachers and, particularly, health care workers is essential.

"We have to educate people, especially health care workers, that if they're seeing excessive dog bites in a family, that could indicate abuse, because the dog might be protecting weaker family members or itself," Lindner explained.

And neighbor reports of animal abuse and neglect should trigger greater concern, especially if there are children in the house.

"Neighbors will often report animal abuse long before any other kind of violence, because it's more out there and obvious."

“Use renewable resources”

Since: Apr 11

Wear fur and save the earth

#2 Aug 4, 2013
Another clueless Psychologist. I wish they understood research. There isn't any validated research that shows that animal abuse predicts human abuse. Why can't seemly intelligent people grasp this simple concept?
mojo karma cookie

San Mateo, CA

#4 Aug 4, 2013
wrong again unsung blockhead. she sais that animal abuse within a family indicates other types of abuse around 80% of the time. she said that more cross reporting is needed to confirm this.

""We need a lot more cross reporting," she said. "We know that if there's animal abuse in a family, very often chances are 80 percent or higher that you're going to find spousal and child abuse, or even elder abuse.""

you cannot disprove this statement or prove her wrong, she deals with this type of situation in her line of work as a psychologist. the only clueless person here is yourself, your bogus, childish, fruity ad hominems are ridiculous and obscene.
hunters are COWARDS

Toronto, Canada

#5 Aug 4, 2013
I should just stfu already, pathetic no life imbecile TROLL that I am. I don't understand dick about science let alone research. I do know ANIMAL RIGHTS don't exist and being vegan is unhealthy, that is why I vomit 24/7/365. Now I'm off to eat fecal laden rabbit food and vomit some more. Just visit with my alter ego, mojo vomit cookie.

“Use renewable resources”

Since: Apr 11

Wear fur and save the earth

#6 Aug 4, 2013
mojo karma cookie wrote:
wrong again unsung blockhead. she sais that animal abuse within a family indicates other types of abuse around 80% of the time. she said that more cross reporting is needed to confirm this.
""We need a lot more cross reporting," she said. "We know that if there's animal abuse in a family, very often chances are 80 percent or higher that you're going to find spousal and child abuse, or even elder abuse.""
you cannot disprove this statement or prove her wrong, she deals with this type of situation in her line of work as a psychologist. the only clueless person here is yourself, your bogus, childish, fruity ad hominems are ridiculous and obscene.
"very often chances are 80 percent or higher"
^^that sounds like Yogi Berra saying that baseball is 90% half mental. Her assertions are irrelevant. WHERE IS THE RESEARCH?
mojo karma cookie

San Jose, CA

#7 Aug 5, 2013
you are not making any sense whatsoever unsung blockhead. the question isn't whether the research exists, she plainly says that there is no cross-reporting of abuse statistics to confirm what she already knows and/or assumes to be true. the question is can you show that she is clearly wrong. i'm reasonably sure you cannot.
hunters are COWARDS

Toronto, Canada

#9 Aug 5, 2013
Of course, I'm by far the most prolific regurgitator of the same mindless bullshit day in and day out...and then it/me decorates its own posts!!! What a pathetic and worthless horse porking PoS I am!

“Use renewable resources”

Since: Apr 11

Wear fur and save the earth

#10 Aug 5, 2013
hunters are COWARDS wrote:
<quoted text>rocks for brains regurgitates the same mindless blather day in and day out...and then it decorates its own posts!!! What a pathetic and worthless PoS
I repeat the same facts over and over again. You also are unable to refute anything I say as my statements are based in logic, science and common sense. If you could present a legitimate position, you would. Since you are unable to do so, you simply call people names. You think it makes you sound intelligent but it just shows how weak your position is. If you were smarter, you would be able to grasp this simple concept.
Joe USA

San Jose, CA

#11 Aug 5, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
<quoted text>
I repeat the same facts over and over again. You also are unable to refute anything I say as my statements are based in logic, science and common sense. If you could present a legitimate position, you would. Since you are unable to do so, you simply call people names. You think it makes you sound intelligent but it just shows how weak your position is. If you were smarter, you would be able to grasp this simple concept.
If PSYCHO "were smarter"... she wouldnt be answering her own posts.
HUNTERS ARE effing MORONS

Toronto, Canada

#13 Aug 5, 2013
HUNTERS ARE effing MORONS wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!!!! There is no refuting a brain dead corpse eating no life LOSER troll!! You lack common sense and intelligence and you troll these threads day and night begging for attention and no sane person gives a sh#t because you are a witless, run of the mill no life TROLL. The fact that you come here day and night and NO ONE of sane mind ever takes you seriously, only shows what a pathetic slob you are.
You obsess over the ANIMAL RIGHTS forums and you know NOTHING about it and scum like you do not give a sh1t about animals. You're a self humiliating no life PoS who comes here for humiliation---mostly self inflicted. Get lost you worthless PoS.
Oh, don't worry, we all know you won't go anywhere because humiliation is the only attention you can get!! Ready??? 10..9..8..7..6..5..
Now how's that for having a large stick up my pooper?

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#14 Aug 6, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
Why can't seemly intelligent people grasp this simple concept?
Because they think emotionally instead of logically. In China and other parts of the world, dog is a food source. Do the folks that butcher dogs grow up to be mass murderers? Hell no.

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#15 Aug 6, 2013
mojo karma cookie wrote:
she plainly says that there is no cross-reporting of abuse statistics to confirm what she already knows and/or assumes to be true.
Assumes? Are you seriously that stuck on stupid. What a dumbass.
hunters are COWARDS

Toronto, Canada

#17 Aug 6, 2013
HUNTERS ARE effing MORONS wrote:
<quoted text>I'm Finally admitting what a self humiliating no life piece of sh!t I am! I'm so spineless, I allow my horse to be on top!
We really are nitwitted, degenerate scum, ain't that right, mom?
oh no i did

Elk Grove, CA

#18 Aug 6, 2013
t they took our jobs

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