Kentucky leads nation in rate of child abuse and neglect deaths, study finds

Oct 21, 2009 Full story: The Courier-Journal 76

Kentucky leads the nation in its rate of children's deaths involving abuse or neglect, according to a study released this week by Every Child Matters Education Fund, a non-partisan children's advocacy and research group based in Washington.

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blueridge

Covington, KY

#1 Oct 21, 2009
Increased money for programs is not the answer. How that money is used and accountability is. Money is handed out in the form of welfare and foodstamps. The foodstamps are sold for drug money etc. Example: This past spring I reported a family. Nothing to prevent either parent from working. Both using meth, proof they were selling food stamps for drugs. and children being neglected and left with a convicted child molesteror while they were getting high daily. Long story short-- they got more assistance(money) and the kids stayed in that environment. Instances like this is why we are so #1 on the list.
maybe

Lexington, KY

#2 Oct 21, 2009
You are so right. I know many families pulling this fraud and living better than I do working at a good job (and NOT getting high all day/night!) Reporting does no good at all, same with drug tip reporting...it's all ignored.
Kay

United States

#3 Oct 21, 2009
This is the courts and family services faults. Kentucky courts are still are so far behind, they still think the best place for a child is the mother, if you read the facts most abuse and sex abuse is done in the mother's home by men they bring in. Family Services is a joke in Ky, if you report something you better have proof, pictures, to prove it happened, you can'y call and say I've watched and I think something is going on. they will not investigate anything unless you have proof, I know this is what I was told when I called and reported that I thought a mother was drinking and partying with the child in the home, I didn't have proof or a date in other word they are not going to look into anything unless you have done their work for them, while in the meantime a child is being abused. They think more assistant is the answer, no so this give them more money to party with. I know a mother that has went to great lenghts to try and get her child declared with some sort of disabilty so she will be eilgible for more assistance so she doesn't have to work even though she gets child support. Now if your a father forget it child services and courts in Ky still believe a father is dirt and the only thing their good for is to pay child support. Go figure Ky is still called the backwoods redneck state...real nice image.
rockin JC

Irvington, KY

#4 Oct 21, 2009
We are number 1! GO BIG BLUE! WOOOOOO!!!!!!
Disappointed

Pikeville, KY

#5 Oct 21, 2009
rockin JC wrote:
We are number 1! GO BIG BLUE! WOOOOOO!!!!!!
Think of Your Mother, "Jackin' JC".
not right

Sonora, KY

#6 Oct 21, 2009
what about when a third party sues very fit capable christian parents for visitation when some is already being given? But the third party doesn't like what is being given because there is no alone time with the child and one of the parents was abused by the third party and the spouse of the third party for many years and the third party is still with the abuser. How can that even be allowed into the court room? I just don't understand. What is wrong with the justice system that good fit parents that try to raise there children right have to spend so much money and time defending the good choices they make for their family. This is just not right. All of the parents out there that abuse and neglect their children or allow their children to be abused should be in court not parents like us that love and want to protect our children.
FYI

Canton, OH

#7 Oct 22, 2009
I have no idea what goes on in Family Services, but I know a family where neither adult works. Last summer they were arrested, she was drunk driving with the kid in the car. The police found an unregistered, loaded handgun in the car and arrested the man for that and other various charges, resisting, etc. The child spent a few days with grandma and then he was sent back home. Nothing ever happened and the gun charges were dropped, even thought the man was a convicted felon. They lay around all day and smoke weed. Welfare, medical card, food stamps...what even encourages them to work? What chance does that child have of having a normal life? Does the state really think that living in that environment is good for the child? I guess they think it is fine, because it where they sent him to live. Abuse takes many forms.
FYI

Canton, OH

#8 Oct 22, 2009
Another casualty of the system is Josh Fritz in Metcalfe County. Everyone in town was aware of the horrific neglect and abuse this boy was living with. He is 18 now, but was in foster care for a while because his dad was a drug addict who badly abused him. He was finally happy and doing well, but apparently social services decided everything was OK at home and sent him back. One day, Josh just snapped and killed his dad. Josh just pleaded guilty and got 8 years. What did the social worker get who sent him back into hell? Nothing. Someone needs to hold these agencies accountable.
what system

Leitchfield, KY

#9 Oct 22, 2009
that is so horrible that these parents get to keep there kids after they abuse them and blame them for the problems. thats what happened to me, I am an adult now but as a child I was sent to away from my own home when i told my mother what her husband had been doing to me. She sent me away and kept him from jail and then the system sent me right back to the situation because he took some special classes yeah I got counseling but what good does that do when you know that there is really no one there for you. So in more than one way the system fails a lot of kids. I am now getting counseling for all the probs that he and she caused and who is paying for that? Yep the victim we all pay and the abusers and neglecters get paid. So really the system does work. It works for them.
Chylloh

Lawrenceburg, KY

#10 Oct 22, 2009
This is our judicial system allowing and supporting by continuing the payments to people in which they have to know someone is using meth.

Just look at these people, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what they are doing.Their appearance and demeanor tells the story.

They are deadbeats living off of tax payers and we feed their addictions.

These children should be taken away from these people.

I know a foster mother who would like a couple of extra children to care for but the soc. ser. states they have a shortage.

The other thing is, why aren't soc. workers doing there job?

You could say, there is a shortage of soc. workers and abundance of cases.

Actually, I know a woman who is a soc. worker a single mother herself with one child. She was telling us, they fight over who is to take a case whenever a new case comes in because no one wants to take anymore new case.

They decrease their work load because of what is going on today, so they will not need to deal with the horrenous things happening to children.

Tell this to the abused and killed children.

If anyone of us have any doubts about it, we can always go to the soc. service and see for ourselves.

“Look Ma, no skin”

Since: Aug 09

Louisville, Kentucky

#11 Oct 22, 2009
On this we agree Chylloh. Conditions are as they are because of those in control. I acknowledge that those of every and any race are apt to degrade, to generate, when they are encouraged, motivated, and driven towards degradation. Fortunately, not all of us drop into this pit. The very first step in correcting the problem is correctly assessing and identifying the problem. The problem lies above us. What we see, hear, and read about are the indicators for and the results of the problem. Hell, there have been moments when I've considered quitting the good fight and joining the ranks of others riding upon the back's of those fighting the good fight. I can't. It isn't because of anything other than, I'm better than that and I expect more from myself. It is as it is.
Chylloh

Lawrenceburg, KY

#12 Oct 22, 2009
I intend to agree with you on this Slightly.

Did you see the pictures of the babies and children on the news (local) of the burns, torture, neglect by meth users toward their children or someone elses.This was in KY and esp. in Louisville.

It was horrible.

Our so-called Judicial system and Soc. Service continue to allow these nuts to have these children and collect tax payers money from welfare to support their addictions.

Did you know there is a clinic in Indiana, that has these meth addicts come in each week for their doses of meth, to wean them slowly off?

Do they think these people actually go back home and "NO I DON'T WANT ANY DRUGS JUST HAD MY WEEKLY DOSE."

I am so outraged.

And outraged at the woman I spoke about who has a Master in Soc. Service but doesn't see fit to take cases that will be a little bit too uncomfortable.

She told me a lot more about what is going on in this dept. A lot of lazy people who are jeopardizing the lives of children.

Not all of them but a majority of them.

Hiding and playing sick in order to not take cases.

Where is the supervision?

America is looking bad, real bad.

What happen to decency and standing up for the rights of children?
JAMES

Phoenix, AZ

#13 Oct 22, 2009
Kentucky women should never be allowed to breed!
Rich

Radcliff, KY

#14 Oct 22, 2009
JAMES wrote:
Kentucky women should never be allowed to breed!
In most cases that is very true.
KYFriend

El Segundo, CA

#15 Oct 24, 2009
1-800-752-6200
This is the number for CPS. It is unanimous and no proof is needed. It is Frankfortís #. If you see or suspect abuse it is you moral obligation to report it, and keep reporting it!
KYFriend

El Segundo, CA

#16 Oct 24, 2009
I agree that the dead beat parents donít need any more money going there way. But the DCPS does need more funding. I know this first hand. They make decisions about kids based on funding at times.
There policy is to put the kids back with the parents witch in a lot of cases is the wrong thing to do!
The Judges are also part of the problem along with the lawyers for the kids. They make uninformed decisions; I believe they donít care at times. For the lawyers it is about the money they get. They donít even want to know about the case they are there for.
I know that some of the social workers donít care either they have become hardened and just are going with the flow and will not fight the system or stand up for the kids.
The root cause of the problem is the parents. They are drug addicts, alcoholics or just lack morals. If the kids where taken from them and they really had to prove them self fit to be parents or they loose there kids maybe some would change. Now all they have to do is play the system witch most if not all are very good at doing.
first hand

Elizabethtown, KY

#17 Oct 24, 2009
I know first hand that the system is not that hard to play some people I know (family) do it and I even seen my mom doing it when it was little sometimes they don't even have to do anything because the workers do it for them. But let me tell you when you're an honest hard working person and you need a little help for just a little while they really give you a hard time. So if you're a liar and a thief and you treat your kids bad then there right there to help but if you tell the truth and have good morals and ethics then you get nothing but a hard way to go. They put children right back into the home with abusers and sometimes give them a little counseling and then an "I hope everything turns out ok for you."
friend of children

Columbus, OH

#18 Oct 24, 2009
KYFriend wrote:
1-800-752-6200
This is the number for CPS. It is unanimous and no proof is needed. It is Frankfortís #. If you see or suspect abuse it is you moral obligation to report it, and keep reporting it!
I can tell you that this # or any other will not do any good. I know this information, as I am required to report almost daily in my job. I have witnessed personally DCBS turn the head to ignore child neglect. I always get a response it is "lifestyle". We need to contact lawmakers of Ky. DCBS needs to be held accountable for our children. PLEASE help our children.....many are suffering!!!
Chylloh

United States

#19 Oct 24, 2009
I intend to agree with Friend of Children.

I contacted CPS about a young boy of three years of age being abused by the step dad.

The worker stated, he went there and asked them if this abuse was going on and they denied it.

Case closed.

This child is now a teen with many problems.
grrr

Louisville, KY

#20 Oct 24, 2009
blueridge wrote:
Increased money for programs is not the answer. How that money is used and accountability is. Money is handed out in the form of welfare and foodstamps. The foodstamps are sold for drug money etc. Example: This past spring I reported a family. Nothing to prevent either parent from working. Both using meth, proof they were selling food stamps for drugs. and children being neglected and left with a convicted child molesteror while they were getting high daily. Long story short-- they got more assistance(money) and the kids stayed in that environment. Instances like this is why we are so #1 on the list.
it's really not surprising that this is the leading state! i see so many cases on a daily. all i know to do is report it and check in again with cps or whomever you have filed a complaint with. being persistant, naggy, bitchy however u have to do it does sometimes pay off. i will not just sit back and watch people abuse/neglect their kids, pets, abuse the system or whatever it is. working people out here deserve far more than anyone sitting on their fat duff collecting a check. i am sick to death of it. i know that in my lifetime i probably won't even see an end or anything even close to it but i will do what i can to prevent and help it out.

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