KSP describes cockfighting ring as on...

KSP describes cockfighting ring as one of largest In Southeast

There are 420 comments on the WHAS11 story from Jul 20, 2010, titled KSP describes cockfighting ring as one of largest In Southeast. In it, WHAS11 reports that:

Police say it may be one of the largest cockfighting rings in the Southeast, drawing hundreds of spectators each month.

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Freedom

Hartford, AL

#434 Jan 15, 2011
Everyone is missing the point, cruel or not cruel, it doesn't matter. We all live in the USA and it is suppose to be the land of the free. Now that being said, the people opposing cockfighting and saying that it is disgusting, well are they anyone dragging you to a rooster fight and forcing you to watch it...???? Hello? well are they? No I didn't think so, Americans should be entitled to do as they may. Gamefowl are bred and probably gave better care than most of the left wing animal lovers give to their house cat or dog. People Gamefowl are not trained to fight, it is a natural desire to eliminate the other. The only thing a cockfighter does is condition them to ensure the Gamefowl as a good chance of surviving where he might live on the farm another year, unlike the ones you buy at the grocery store, the six week miracle chickens that if not killed in six week will fall over dead because their body cannot support the rapid growth and they fall over dead. That is a good life to live. Now since all the debate is it right for government to intervene in everyone's business, because a few squeaky wheels says it's cruel and they don't like it, no it is not. Remember people it is America land of the free and we shouldn't be encourage polictians to make life harder for your neighbor. You live your life and let them live theirs. Police should strictly enforce harmful acts, break-ins, drugs, murders, thefts, assaults, child abuse and so on. It's not your right to deny your neighbor of his or her rights to live and do what they desire as long as they are not imposing on you or some other innocent person. Enforce real crimes and quit wasting my thirty thousand year tax money on BS.
dan

Salyersville, KY

#435 Jan 19, 2011
sandy63 husus is wrong it not misdemeanor in ky the boys got cauth charge was drop
Hollywood

United States

#436 Apr 9, 2011
ouch wrote:
good family fun? right!! i want my 6 year old witnessing a cockfight! good family night out... NOT! cruelty to animals needs to be stopped. yes, it may be in some cocks nature to fight just as well as some dogs are aggressive but don't make things worse and antagonize, organize or bet on something as horrific as watching something fight til it's death. it is wrong and anyone participating should do jail time. they should stop slapping you ignorant shits on the hand and put you in there long enough to get a lil d-ick up in you and make you see your foolish ways!
What you don't understand is you don't teach a fish to swim.. No matter what you do if you had you 6 yr old raise two rooster on two different side of you yard and do nothing but feed and love them the very moment that you let them see each other they would fight sharks eat fish, cats eat mice, falcons eat rabbits and rooster fight. It's in there blood. I read about it and it opened my eyes. I don't condone it but at the same time that's what they want to do. Just like a race horse wants to run and they will run until that can't any more
I Moved

Floyds Knobs, IN

#437 Apr 9, 2011
Game cocks fight naturally, some lines moreso than others. Cocks that are not "game" end up in the pot and are not permitted to reproduce as this charcteristic is not permitted to go on.

Of course they are trained to fight. It's called sparring. This is a brief session that is done with plugs on the spurs so the cocks aren't injured. The hot heads are easily identifiable at an early age and get the most attention. Some of the hens are almost as game as the cocks. I have seen some with spurs and actually crow. When they lay their eggs, they are removed and put under a docile hen who will adopt anything or the game hen will most likely kill the chicks at birth.

As for how the losing cock is disposed of after a fight, it is up to the owner. Often the losing cock isn't quite dead yet when the fight is called. It is just on the ground and has stopped pecking. At Frank's, most of the losers (alive and dead) are thrown on a heap out back and the mess is cleaned up later.

I hear a lot of silly nonsense from SOME folks who support animal fighting. It's obvious that they don't know anything about breeding, raising, and preparing cocks for the ring. They also don't really know what goes on behind the scenes at Frank's. Perhaps it's better that way. Don't expect anything to change soon. Any legal fees and fines are just considered operational expenses. No big deal.
animal lover

Trinity, TX

#438 Apr 15, 2011
Cockfighter for life wrote:
What a load of bull! It was not a serect "ring" that is such a load of bull! It was a family run place with good family folks, to describe them this way is not right!
I got a better idea...put two dumbazz men OR women if they like this cruel sport and pull their pant's down and let the rooster peck on their pecker OR puss till the thing start's bleeding and let them lay there and bleed to death. Now that is what I call entertaining! Have some fun, you friggin blood thirsty prick's That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Freedon

East Bernstadt, KY

#439 Apr 16, 2011
I Moved wrote:
Game cocks fight naturally, some lines moreso than others. Cocks that are not "game" end up in the pot and are not permitted to reproduce as this charcteristic is not permitted to go on.
Of course they are trained to fight. It's called sparring. This is a brief session that is done with plugs on the spurs so the cocks aren't injured. The hot heads are easily identifiable at an early age and get the most attention. Some of the hens are almost as game as the cocks. I have seen some with spurs and actually crow. When they lay their eggs, they are removed and put under a docile hen who will adopt anything or the game hen will most likely kill the chicks at birth.
As for how the losing cock is disposed of after a fight, it is up to the owner. Often the losing cock isn't quite dead yet when the fight is called. It is just on the ground and has stopped pecking. At Frank's, most of the losers (alive and dead) are thrown on a heap out back and the mess is cleaned up later.
I hear a lot of silly nonsense from SOME folks who support animal fighting. It's obvious that they don't know anything about breeding, raising, and preparing cocks for the ring. They also don't really know what goes on behind the scenes at Frank's. Perhaps it's better that way. Don't expect anything to change soon. Any legal fees and fines are just considered operational expenses. No big deal.
I think you are misinformed the roosters are not trained to fight, the sparring sessions is part of the selection process. I do not believe they are taught to give a one two three punch and duck. If they are, do you care to explain, exactly how to communicate to the birds to explain that they need to give an upper cut or left hook??

One thing I don't understand about this whole debate of being cruel is why are all the roosters killed by animal officers and police when they raid a farm or fight place? Why aren't they "retrained" not to fight, if that's the case? Two roosters enter a fight arena, one has a chance to come out alive. Animal officers place two, three, four and more roosters in a barrel connected by a hose to exhaust of a vehicle and zero has a chance to come out alive. They would be fighting banging against the barrel till the gas overcomes them and they were placed there by the animal lovers. I am glad my parents didn't show me "love" like that.
At the lake

Floyds Knobs, IN

#440 Apr 16, 2011
Hi Freedom!!!!! I think we agree more than we disagree. I began my post by stating that some breeds fight naturally. The sparring is for conditioning and maintaining the "game" attitude. Obviously, it is not to teach the darn bird fighting technique. As for how animal control choses to put down the cocks, I think is as wrong as the fighting, itself. I witnessed a bunch of men (including the authorities) taking bets on which cocks were still alive in the barrel at 30 seconds, one minute, etc. Disgusting. Have a good weekend.
holy crap

Big Clifty, KY

#441 Apr 19, 2011
cockeroty wrote:
Let me tell ya something the damn rooster has wings if he didn't want to be in. There don't you think he'd fly away and how is it animal cruelty its not an animal its a fowl some of the best cockfighters were presidents to name a couple George washing and abe Lincoln oh honest abe before any one condones this please do some research
i have been reading these comments, u mean a rooster has wings and can fly away from a cock fight,when he is in a cage .omg. this is the dumbest thing i ever heard, i hope they lock all of you up,this is nuts, if it isnt illegal,it should be, poor birds,how would u like to fight to the finish, let them spur your a##.until you die? idiot!
KY Pete

Elizabethtown, KY

#444 Oct 26, 2012
Those Who Are Not Of Us Have No Say. We Rule Ourselves And Need No Others Who Do Not Walk In Our Shoes To Pass Jucdgement Upon Us. We Are The Commonwealth Of Kentucky, The Few The Proud The Citizens Of The Commonwealth. We left the rule of the east over 200 yaers ago to live our lives free.We raise our crops, our families, and our livestock to provide for our future. Anyone who does not do the same should start to. We may be considered backwards but we are real taxpaying citizens of this great country like you. Why should you have more say so than us. If gamefowl provided your income, your families food and their future, how would you feel when others who do not live as you have to in todays economy try to preach wrong of you and how you provide for those who depend on you. Are we not of one people? Do we not feel for each others needs? Why do you feel my way of life is lesser than yours? Is my way of life impacting yours to the extent that you HATE me for the action of my fowl's NATURAL TENDANCEES? I can turn them out to the wild to be slaughtered or let them prove themselves in the way they have been bred to since 2000 years before Crist.If GOD does not pass judgement upon who we are who are We to do so? Support your state Gamefowl Breeders Association and the United Gamefowl Breders Association and help to protect your rights as Americans. Subscribe to GAMECOCK and have a voice. Put your dog in tke fight.
truth

Elizabethtown, KY

#445 Oct 27, 2012
For those of you who think this is ok, let's shoot u up with steriods, put spikes on your nails, cage in and make you fight to the death. Since it is ok you won't mind, right? I mean come on you are helping out your economy!!!
i didnt do it

Ames, IA

#446 Nov 12, 2012
oops, sorry,
i saw "large cock" and thought someone was talkin bout me again.
Cockfighter for life wrote:
What a load of bull! It was not a serect "ring" that is such a load of bull! It was a family run place with good family folks, to describe them this way is not right!
sumbody

Perryville, AR

#447 Nov 12, 2012
U crazy
Nan

New Albany, IN

#448 Dec 10, 2012
The facility has never been a secret but the owners could never be described as gentle family folk. Let's face it, Mr. Clean could never openly run that kind of operation. Money gets spread all over to keep it up and running and that's no problem because it is just another operational expense that get's passed on.
Curious

Lexington, KY

#449 Dec 13, 2012
worse things go on n ec than this
Nan

Louisville, KY

#450 Dec 16, 2012
I agree with you there!!!!
fyi

Campbellsville, KY

#451 Jan 1, 2013
so do i
wow

Campbellsville, KY

#453 Jan 1, 2013
wow
answer

Campbellsville, KY

#454 Jan 1, 2013
it was bad
TAXPAYERS

San Mateo, CA

#457 Feb 25, 2013
HISTORY LESSON ON ANIMAL RIGHTS AND TYRANNY

“Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

Hitler's Nazi Germany was marked by a preoccupation with "animal rights." Hitler's Third Reich passed numerous animal protection laws, such as declaring that shoeing a horse was cruel, and declared an end to dissection. This reduced Man’s status to that of animals, and justified treating men as animals. Before the war was ended, the Nazis stepped up experiments on the best way to castrate a Jew without anesthesia, and turned countless men, women and children into lampshades and soap. These Nazi actions were justifiable by their belief that it was possible to "...increase the moral standing of animals and decrease the moral standing of people, thus integrating human characteristics to animals... elevating animal life to the level of cult worship...which would lead to the spiritual and ideological changes necessary... for a new national identity."

The real political objective of “animal rights” is to eliminate "unalienable rights," and to make way for all these other supposed rights and pervert our Bill of Rights to the point where only the perverted are protected. A favored socialist strategy is to separate the population from common sense and its own laws by bringing about chaos, clouding real issues, then bring about “change” through gradual “legislation from within.” Ruling by planned crisis is the favored method, as this short-circuits the brain’s ability to think and reason clearly about true issues. This planned chaos (such as “animal cruelty,”“puppy mills” and “cock fighting”) is designed to rob the nation of its creativity and life force, degrade human existence, make everything seem uncontrollable and bad, which then allows the introduction of a tyrannical form of government.

The Gestapo was first used by Goring to do away with political opponents. A "temporary" state of emergency was declared after the Reichstag fire, but was never rescinded. This allowed the Gestapo to enforce conformity at every level of society. Block wardens monitored their neighbors, and children were recruited to inform on their teachers and parents. The Gestapo was authorized to hold people in "protective custody" which was really arbitrary arrest and imprisonment. At first, only political prisoners were taken under the guise of "preventive protective custody" and placed in SS-controlled concentration camps; later, anyone was hunted down and taken who was deemed to not fit in with SS and Gestapo vision of a perfect Aryan society.("SS" came from Schutzstaffel which means "elite guard").

Today we see this same conduct and set of circumstances appearing in some of our civic institutions. The only way for one man to achieve dominion and control over another is through the darkness of IGNORANCE. Let’s get educated about our own laws, so that tyranny cannot gain a foothold in America, and so that we can once again have “happiness and good government flowing forth” as paraphrased by all our early education laws. We do have some beautiful laws. Let’s learn them, and insist that our civic institutions obey them for the good of our nation. God Bless America.

-Compiled by: Janet I. Fischer and S.A. Martin

17954-A S. Euclid Ave.

Chino, CA 91710
Another Animal Lover

Crossville, TN

#461 Mar 4, 2014
holy crap wrote:
<quoted text>i have been reading these comments, u mean a rooster has wings and can fly away from a cock fight,when he is in a cage .omg. this is the dumbest thing i ever heard, i hope they lock all of you up,this is nuts, if it isnt illegal,it should be, poor birds,how would u like to fight to the finish, let them spur your a##.until you die? idiot!
I totally agree with you. I hope all involved in forcing roosters to fight are skinned alive and left out in the sun.

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