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Auditor: "Strong likelihood" Columbus schools employees will be referred for prosecution

There are 19 comments on the The Columbus Dispatch story from Nov 13, 2012, titled Auditor: "Strong likelihood" Columbus schools employees will be referred for prosecution. In it, The Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Columbus City Schools employees -- and perhaps others in schools throughout the state -- are accused of falsifying students' records to improve their schools' standing on state report cards.

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#2 Nov 13, 2012
This story deserves more serious discussion than hey now's usual scatological references.

Cheating is cheating, and if anything can be credited with allowing it to go on, it is the rather pervasive attitude that nothing meaninful can be done to improve urban education. This is used to justify attempts to "get over" any accountability systems, such as testing, public data reporting, required improvement planning and so forth.

The folks making decisions in CCS are well above the level of classified union employment.

At least in this case it is clear that the problem is not the kids and it's not the parents. It is an administration that tried to fix up its exterior image without bothering to make any internal improvements to bring that about.

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#3 Nov 13, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
This story deserves more serious discussion than hey now's usual scatological references.
Cheating is cheating, and if anything can be credited with allowing it to go on, it is the rather pervasive attitude that nothing meaninful can be done to improve urban education. This is used to justify attempts to "get over" any accountability systems, such as testing, public data reporting, required improvement planning and so forth.
The folks making decisions in CCS are well above the level of classified union employment.
At least in this case it is clear that the problem is not the kids and it's not the parents. It is an administration that tried to fix up its exterior image without bothering to make any internal improvements to bring that about.
But as usual when a leftist black is at the top of the food chain, the buck will stop nowhere near them.
Gene, meet Barry. Barry, Gene.
bosco

Columbus, OH

#4 Nov 13, 2012
I do hope gene harris is on the List.

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#5 Nov 13, 2012
bosco wrote:
I do hope gene harris is on the List.
I am with you. I think this falls into the category of "knew or should have known."
Oliver

Springfield, OH

#6 Nov 14, 2012
bosco wrote:
I do hope gene harris is on the List.
Gene Harris saw the "writing on the wall" and is set to retire this spring leaving others to deal with the consequences while she will be set for life with a six figure retirement package paid for by City of Columbus taxpayers who deserve better.

Once Busing past in 1977 (Penick vs. Columbus City Schools), this was certain to happen, corruption and incompetence under Black Rule while Whites fled to the suburbs. All Black Run areas are violent and mismanaged (Harlem, Watts, Compton, Detroit, Uganda, Haiti and the list goes on and on......

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#7 Nov 14, 2012
Oliver wrote:
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Gene Harris saw the "writing on the wall" and is set to retire this spring leaving others to deal with the consequences while she will be set for life with a six figure retirement package paid for by City of Columbus taxpayers who deserve better.
Once Busing past in 1977 (Penick vs. Columbus City Schools), this was certain to happen, corruption and incompetence under Black Rule while Whites fled to the suburbs. All Black Run areas are violent and mismanaged (Harlem, Watts, Compton, Detroit, Uganda, Haiti and the list goes on and on......
Wrong, fella. First, off, Penick did not require "Black Rule." Nor did it force whites to leave the district, even though many did.

Yes, Gene Harris (for whom I have very little love) has racked up a pension--paid mostly by CCS, as well as her own contribution, and some from the state (recall tht she spent some time working there as well). But that doesn't make her any different from any other employee in the same system (although most make quite a bit less, owing to having far less responsibility). Maybe you want to change that system? You cannot just get p-oed at one and use it as a basis for systemic change, though. Makes for poor policy.

It does look as though Dr. Harris is pretty likely to face charges, some of them federal, for her role of responsibility in the fraud perpetrated by the system under her leadership. And I find this to be far more effective--specifically targeted to a wrong-doer, rather than based on free-floating feelings of malice towards an entire class of persons--particularly when race is clearly a prime motivator for those feelings in your case.
Spookstillhere f trolls

Toledo, OH

#8 Nov 14, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Wrong, fella. First, off, Penick did not require "Black Rule." Nor did it force whites to leave the district, even though many did.
Yes, Gene Harris (for whom I have very little love) has racked up a pension--paid mostly by CCS, as well as her own contribution, and some from the state (recall tht she spent some time working there as well). But that doesn't make her any different from any other employee in the same system (although most make quite a bit less, owing to having far less responsibility). Maybe you want to change that system? You cannot just get p-oed at one and use it as a basis for systemic change, though. Makes for poor policy.
It does look as though Dr. Harris is pretty likely to face charges, some of them federal, for her role of responsibility in the fraud perpetrated by the system under her leadership. And I find this to be far more effective--specifically targeted to a wrong-doer, rather than based on free-floating feelings of malice towards an entire class of persons--particularly when race is clearly a prime motivator for those feelings in your case.
I have to agree with you on this. Damn I better go get an MRI.

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#10 Nov 14, 2012
Spookstillhere f trolls wrote:
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I have to agree with you on this. Damn I better go get an MRI.
Wow!
Oliver

Springfield, OH

#11 Nov 15, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Wrong, fella. First, off, Penick did not require "Black Rule." Nor did it force whites to leave the district, even though many did.
Yes, Gene Harris (for whom I have very little love) has racked up a pension--paid mostly by CCS, as well as her own contribution, and some from the state (recall tht she spent some time working there as well). But that doesn't make her any different from any other employee in the same system (although most make quite a bit less, owing to having far less responsibility). Maybe you want to change that system? You cannot just get p-oed at one and use it as a basis for systemic change, though. Makes for poor policy.
It does look as though Dr. Harris is pretty likely to face charges, some of them federal, for her role of responsibility in the fraud perpetrated by the system under her leadership. And I find this to be far more effective--specifically targeted to a wrong-doer, rather than based on free-floating feelings of malice towards an entire class of persons--particularly when race is clearly a prime motivator for those feelings in your case.
More lies from Reader!

You attack good hardworking capitalistic Blacks like Hermann Cain, Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Walter White, Armstrong Williams, J.C. Watts, Ken Blackwell, Shelby Steele and support socialistic Blacks like Gene Harris, Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton.

There is no condemnation (on my part) of an entire class of people, just the leeches and parasites who are dragging down this great nation into a third world cesspool full of shigellosis, crime and debt.
Oliver

Springfield, OH

#12 Nov 15, 2012
Spookstillhere f trolls wrote:
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I have to agree with you on this. Damn I better go get an MRI.
What? Spook and Reader agree? I can't believe it.

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#13 Nov 15, 2012
Oliver wrote:
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More lies from Reader!
You attack good hardworking capitalistic Blacks like Hermann Cain, Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Walter White, Armstrong Williams, J.C. Watts, Ken Blackwell, Shelby Steele and support socialistic Blacks like Gene Harris, Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton.
There is no condemnation (on my part) of an entire class of people, just the leeches and parasites who are dragging down this great nation into a third world cesspool full of shigellosis, crime and debt.
And exactly what, in anything that I said, leads you to believe that I am defending Dr. Harris (or Al Sharpton, for that matter)?

When you make statements claiming that wherever areas of government are led by blacks there is corruption and failure, it is very difficult to see how this is not a condemnation of an entire group of people.

Sometimes it seems as though anything less than full fledged spitting on the grave of a person and all their ancestors is interpreted as support or defense.

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#14 Nov 15, 2012
Spookstillhere f trolls wrote:
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I have to agree with you on this. Damn I better go get an MRI.
Crap, getting off topix to build my own bunker and stock up on canned goods and H2O. The end of the world is near...
Oliver

Springfield, OH

#15 Nov 15, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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And exactly what, in anything that I said, leads you to believe that I am defending Dr. Harris (or Al Sharpton, for that matter)?
When you make statements claiming that wherever areas of government are led by blacks there is corruption and failure, it is very difficult to see how this is not a condemnation of an entire group of people.
Sometimes it seems as though anything less than full fledged spitting on the grave of a person and all their ancestors is interpreted as support or defense.
Haiti, Uganda, Rwanda, Somalia, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Botswana, Harlem and Detroit are failures.

Elected leaders are the worst in the nation (e.g., Marion Berry, Maxine Waters, Charley Rangel) and are voted in again and again by an amoral ghetto base,(Marion Berry after being in prison for dealing drugs). What other groups of people do this?

Open your eyes woman!

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#16 Nov 15, 2012
Oliver wrote:
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Haiti, Uganda, Rwanda, Somalia, Zimbabwe, Sudan, Botswana, Harlem and Detroit are failures.
Elected leaders are the worst in the nation (e.g., Marion Berry, Maxine Waters, Charley Rangel) and are voted in again and again by an amoral ghetto base,(Marion Berry after being in prison for dealing drugs). What other groups of people do this?
Open your eyes woman!
So--you ARE making the charge of incompetence against a particular group of people, are you not?

And I am still waiting to understand what makes you think I am defending Dr. Harris.
Spookstillhere f trolls

Toledo, OH

#17 Nov 15, 2012
Oliver wrote:
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What? Spook and Reader agree? I can't believe it.
I said I need an MRI
Spookstillhere f trolls

Toledo, OH

#18 Nov 15, 2012
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Crap, getting off topix to build my own bunker and stock up on canned goods and H2O. The end of the world is near...
Bunker is stocked. H2O systems including desalinization.

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#19 Nov 15, 2012
Spookstillhere f trolls wrote:
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I said I need an MRI
I think Glitter thought you were talking about MRE's
Karl

Dalton, OH

#20 Nov 15, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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And exactly what, in anything that I said, leads you to believe that I am defending Dr. Harris (or Al Sharpton, for that matter)?
When you make statements claiming that wherever areas of government are led by blacks there is corruption and failure, it is very difficult to see how this is not a condemnation of an entire group of people.
Sometimes it seems as though anything less than full fledged spitting on the grave of a person and all their ancestors is interpreted as support or defense.
Name us a large city run by blacks that is not a hellhole.

I'm waiting...
Spookstillhere f trolls

Toledo, OH

#21 Nov 15, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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I think Glitter thought you were talking about MRE's
I have a large supply of those too. I have agreed with you a few times.

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