If Health Law Is Overturned, What Will Liberals Do?

[OzRitz]

It still doesn't sink in with conservatives, that the baby boomers were always going to kill medicare. Yet under the banner of Tea party and the like they want taxes cut, and all spending on everything else as long as it involves NO cuts to them. Of course this meant medicare because this group is main ones receiving benefits from it. Yet time and time again, it tries to disguise this blood sucking practice out of the economy asking for someone else to pay. If medicare was affordable then why would anyone mess with it ?
You must think voters are so stupid.

[Razors Edge]

And so it begins..
With a lie from
our POTUS!!!

When it comes to general elections, Democrats understand that they must campaign as Republicans on fiscal issues in order to be taken seriously. So suddenly the greatest tax-hiker in American presidential history, Barack Obama, is posing as a tax-cutter, and trying to position tax-cutters Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan as tax-hikers.

To what, exactly, is Obama referring when he says that Romney and Ryan want to raise taxes for 95% of the American public? He’s talking about run-downs of the Romney tax plan by outside sites, not the Romney tax plan itself. Romney and Ryan are not interested in raising taxes on anyone – they’re interested in cutting taxes. Eliminating giveaways to those who do not pay taxes does not count as raising taxes.

In any case, the idea of Barack Obama and Joe Biden as middle class warriors is laughable (as is their Batman-and-Robin pose, complete with up-angled hero shot). The middle class has suffered under this administration as it has under no administration since FDR. Meanwhile, buddies of the Obama-Biden club receive large checks from the administration on the taxpayer dime..

[Cousin DuPrees Cousin]

Razors Edge wrote:

And so it begins..
With a lie from
our POTUS!!!
When it comes to general elections, Democrats understand that they must campaign as Republicans on fiscal issues in order to be taken seriously. So suddenly the greatest tax-hiker in American presidential history, Barack Obama, is posing as a tax-cutter, and trying to position tax-cutters Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan as tax-hikers.
To what, exactly, is Obama referring when he says that Romney and Ryan want to raise taxes for 95% of the American public? He’s talking about run-downs of the Romney tax plan by outside sites, not the Romney tax plan itself. Romney and Ryan are not interested in raising taxes on anyone – they’re interested in cutting taxes. Eliminating giveaways to those who do not pay taxes does not count as raising taxes.
In any case, the idea of Barack Obama and Joe Biden as middle class warriors is laughable (as is their Batman-and-Robin pose, complete with up-angled hero shot). The middle class has suffered under this administration as it has under no administration since FDR. Meanwhile, buddies of the Obama-Biden club receive large checks from the administration on the taxpayer dime..

I don't know about you Razer, but my taxes went down under Obama. Didn't yours?

[Anonymous of Indy]

Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:

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I don't know about you Razer, but my taxes went down under Obama. Didn't yours?

they should of, because Obama extened the Bush Taxcuts which expire at the end of 2012.

Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-200260...

[Cousin DuPrees Cousin]

OzRitz wrote:

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Is that a quote from the Glen Beck blackboard, it sure sounds like it. Perhaps you might go back and re write history like Beck and put your own spin on it. Like the worlds first national park Yellowstone. The same arguments you guys from the right putting up now were exactly the same then, they wanted to sell the land off to private enterprise as they would know best what to do with it. Thank God the Liberals won that one, and turned it into the "peoples park" not for some greedy a$$ rancher to make a buck out of it. As history will always show, the world changing ideas never come from conservatives.

Much like Kasuck drilling for Natural Gas in our Ohio State Parks, and Walker of Wisconsin taking Public Lands, Prohibiting Hunting there and only allowing Hunting on Private lands for a big Fee and he of course is connected to the land owners.
Pure Fascism.

[Cousin DuPrees Cousin]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>they should of, because Obama extened the Bush Taxcuts which expire at the end of 2012.
Obama Signs Bill To Extend Bush Tax Cuts
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-200260...

This time they will expire. Off the cliff we go.

[Cousin DuPrees Cousin]

OzRitz wrote:

It still doesn't sink in with conservatives, that the baby boomers were always going to kill medicare. Yet under the banner of Tea party and the like they want taxes cut, and all spending on everything else as long as it involves NO cuts to them. Of course this meant medicare because this group is main ones receiving benefits from it. Yet time and time again, it tries to disguise this blood sucking practice out of the economy asking for someone else to pay. If medicare was affordable then why would anyone mess with it ?
You must think voters are so stupid.

They always hated SS and Medicare, from the inception. They cannot stand Gov being in charge of that taxpayer money, and they want those Markets, you better believe. If Republicans aren't getting a kickback, they will kill it and make sure they do.
They were all for the Individual Mandate until Obama enacted ACA.
Jealous hypocrites.

[Anonymous of Indy]

Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:

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This time they will expire. Off the cliff we go.

if Obama gets re-elected which I believe he will & the Republicans are want to see happen, your exactly right, Off the Cliff we go and Republicans will blame Obama and the Democrats for Total Economical failure, that is why the Republicans in the house are holding up legistlation, just like Harry Reid & the Democrats did when they gain control in the senate when Bush was President.

[OregonSUX]

Stehen wrote:

You didn't ask this question of liberals did you?
Most don't know how to wipe their own ass.
They would point fingers while screaming "racist"
And spew other hate until they are told what to do.

You do not understand what rightwing fascists would do?
100% of them hate the USA, hate women, hate their parents, hate themselves.
They would take out their eye with a hot knife just so a half black man is not POTUS.
They spew the most filthy, despicable bile and are despised the world over.

Republiscums. Despicable.

It's the culture...

[frontporchreacti onary]

@Razors Edge,"When it comes to general elections, Democrats understand that they must campaign as Republicans on fiscal issues in order to be taken seriously."

I bet Ezra Klein's Washington post article on Romney's VP choice might be a hot item with the politicos. Mitt Romney will name Paul Ryan as his VP. Here’s what that ...
Mitt Romney will name Paul Ryan as his VP. Here’s what that means.... Ryan makes it a choice between two competing ... Ezra Klein. Ezra Klein is the editor ...
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/20... ... "Romney’s original intention was to make the 2012 election a referendum on President Obama’s management of the economy. Ryan makes it a choice between two competing plans for deficit reduction. This election increasingly resembles the Obama campaign’s strategy rather than the Romney campaign’s strategy."..."Consid er the case for Romney until today: He’s a relatively moderate businessman running because his experience in the private-sector gives him crucial insight into how to manage the economy. Now consider Ryan: He’s worked in politics his entire life, beginning as an aide to Sen. Bob Kasten, then working for Sen. Sam Brownback and as a speechwriter to Rep. Jack Kemp. He’s known as a relatively ideological politician who has put forward a detailed policy plan to remake the federal government. It’s a rather different message about what’s important. And how does Romney say the problem with Barack Obama is that he’s “never spent a day in the private sector” and then put Ryan a heartbeat away from the presidency?".. It’s not just that Romney now has to defend Ryan’s budget. To some degree, that was always going to be true. What he will now have to defend is everything else Ryan has proposed. Ryan was, for instance, the key House backer of Social Security privatization. His bill, The Social Security Personal Savings Guarantee and Prosperity Act of 2005, was so aggressive that it was rejected by the Bush administration. Now it’s Romney’s bill to defend. In Florida.."

Everyone always says they want an election focused on the issues. For better or worse, we’ve got one." One more cup of coffee,anyone?

[Cousin DuPrees Cousin]

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>if Obama gets re-elected which I believe he will & the Republicans are want to see happen, your exactly right, Off the Cliff we go and Republicans will blame Obama and the Democrats for Total Economical failure, that is why the Republicans in the house are holding up legistlation, just like Harry Reid & the Democrats did when they gain control in the senate when Bush was President.

Hold on Indy, it's gonna be a helluva ride!

[Razors Edge]

frontporchreactionary wrote:

@Razors Edge,"When it comes to general elections, Democrats understand that they must campaign as Republicans on fiscal issues in order to be taken seriously."
I bet Ezra Klein's Washington post article on Romney's VP choice might be a hot item with the politicos. Mitt Romney will name Paul Ryan as his VP. Here’s what that ...
Mitt Romney will name Paul Ryan as his VP. Here’s what that means.... Ryan makes it a choice between two competing ... Ezra Klein. Ezra Klein is the editor ...
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/20... ... "Romney’s original intention was to make the 2012 election a referendum on President Obama’s management of the economy. Ryan makes it a choice between two competing plans for deficit reduction. This election increasingly resembles the Obama campaign’s strategy rather than the Romney campaign’s strategy."..."Consid er the case for Romney until today: He’s a relatively moderate businessman running because his experience in the private-sector gives him crucial insight into how to manage the economy. Now consider Ryan: He’s worked in politics his entire life, beginning as an aide to Sen. Bob Kasten, then working for Sen. Sam Brownback and as a speechwriter to Rep. Jack Kemp. He’s known as a relatively ideological politician who has put forward a detailed policy plan to remake the federal government. It’s a rather different message about what’s important. And how does Romney say the problem with Barack Obama is that he’s “never spent a day in the private sector” and then put Ryan a heartbeat away from the presidency?".. It’s not just that Romney now has to defend Ryan’s budget. To some degree, that was always going to be true. What he will now have to defend is everything else Ryan has proposed. Ryan was, for instance, the key House backer of Social Security privatization. His bill, The Social Security Personal Savings Guarantee and Prosperity Act of 2005, was so aggressive that it was rejected by the Bush administration. Now it’s Romney’s bill to defend. In Florida.."
Everyone always says they want an election focused on the issues. For better or worse, we’ve got one." One more cup of coffee,anyone?

Compromise,The Fuel of the WH...

[Churmudgeon]

Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:

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Hold on Indy, it's gonna be a helluva ride!

Its both partys. there isnt a viable political or ballott box solution. About all you can do is vote for who you think is the lesser evil.

[OzRitz]

Churmudgeon wrote:

<quoted text> Its both partys. there isnt a viable political or ballott box solution. About all you can do is vote for who you think is the lesser evil.

Don't be so defeatist, if you re-elect Obama your scrap prices will remain high, I can re-invest again and its a win win. Then all thats left is fixing the climate, unless you want to keep those boiling summers while we freeze our a$$ off. This is the coldest winter here in my lifetime so I can now expect a summer with extreme high temps.
In my view this will be the real challenge not how many on welfare.

[Osama Obama]

Obamacare now up to over 3 times more expensive than Obamaloney said.

[Churmudgeon]

OzRitz wrote:

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Don't be so defeatist, if you re-elect Obama your scrap prices will remain high, I can re-invest again and its a win win. Then all thats left is fixing the climate, unless you want to keep those boiling summers while we freeze our a$$ off. This is the coldest winter here in my lifetime so I can now expect a summer with extreme high temps.
In my view this will be the real challenge not how many on welfare.

You really are a clueless moron. There isnt anything wrong with the climate. man,s activities have no real of lastine effect on the planet or its climate. Its simply a pole shift. something that happens from time to time. Obama has nothing to do with my well being he dont believe in the counstition and is a illegal immigrant loving liberal. He had his chance. He failed. His policies are to follow the Un and NWO agenda.

[OregonSUX]

Paul Ayn Rand Ryan: Kill Medicare NOW.

"Ryan claims that his plan will not impact anyone 55 or over.

He is lying. Romney-Ryan will kill Medicare now.

It is not complicated. First, repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable Health Care Act ("PPACA," a.k.a., "ObamaCare") will cause Medicare to start paying out more money than it takes in in 2017. ObamaCare increased Medicare's longevity until 2029.

So, with Romney-Ryan, we will have to start finding more money for Medicare very, very soon.

But, here's the rub: Both Romney and Ryan have pledged to Grover Norquist that they would never, ever, ever, raise any taxes on anyone. So, raising Medicare taxes is out.

Here's another rub: they are determined to provide the wealthy with about a $4T tax cut. And, they are going to increase defense spending.

So, there is only one place left to go -- Medicare itself. By first repealing the PPCA, Romney-Ryan will force themselves to... end Medicare for all seniors, including those currently being covered." HP

[Churmudgeon]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/...

[Churmudgeon]

http://modernsurvivalblog.com/pole-shift-2/al...

[Churmudgeon]

Check out the links and read the comments. It is a fact the pole shifts. It is also a fact that the poles shift,s are accelerating at this time. It,s a fact that these shifts will effect the planet and the climate. What isnt know is how when where or what is the clatyclismic end results that it will cause. In other words nobody really knows what is happening or why.