Motorcycle club members fight near do...

Motorcycle club members fight near downtown Santa Cruz

There are 184 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jan 27, 2010, titled Motorcycle club members fight near downtown Santa Cruz. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Rival motorcycle gang members armed with hammers and crowbars fought in a downtown parking lot during the lunch hour Wednesday, though authorities say violence involving the clubs is unusual in the county.

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Lisa

Santa Cruz, CA

#162 Jan 28, 2010
Obviously, from reading the majority of the posts in here, most of the people posting do not know people in motorcycle clubs. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume that just because someone is in a motorcycle club that they are a criminal, violent, don't have a job, are a drug user, etc. Those are stereotypes. Any person from any walk of life can do bad things. Judge individual people by their actions and not by what you perceive them to be or do.
jason

Santa Cruz, CA

#163 Jan 28, 2010
Oil Can wrote:
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See how quickly your "Old Lady" can type when she's on meth. In fact she types faster than the dial up connection from her trailer park.
what balls you have to talk shit behind your computer name a place and we can discuss this face to face
jason

Santa Cruz, CA

#164 Jan 28, 2010
Hmm wrote:
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You "no" your rights? Its not profiling when you were pulled over for speeding.. He chose not to cite you. Fly your colors expect to be stopped. A gang is a gang Sureno, HA, Vago etc..
then he should have given me a ticket you prick
Fish

United States

#165 Jan 28, 2010
Vanessa wrote:
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She's not making it up, Fish. I've seen the video she mentions, also. It was pretty brutal.
You saw a video tape of two clubs fighting,.. you did not see any innocent bystanders being hurt. If you want to stick to that story,(which the cops don't even try to cling to) then I will make it known that you are a bald face liar. Please produce the URL of one news media report that says an innocent bystander was "HURT"? I am challenging you to do this right now. No gossip,.. just produce the real evidence.
bikerscum

San Jose, CA

#166 Jan 28, 2010
Colonel Burnside wrote:
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Loud Pipes make the **** appear larger than it actually is. It's a magic trick!
Too bad the lazy cops doing nothing about this problem.
Every time you friggin' cagers hit us you always say, "I didn't see you." Well maybe if you get the wax out of your ears you can at least HEAR us!
bikerscum

San Jose, CA

#167 Jan 28, 2010
Art Vandelay wrote:
What if the cops sprayed the street area with bbs or marbles? Would that mess up motorcycles?
What if I threw marbles or BB's over my shoulder every time you drove too close to my tail? Would that mess up your windshield?
Lisa

Santa Cruz, CA

#168 Jan 28, 2010
NSBMom wrote:
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No, he was being profiled as a Patch wearer. Stop playing victim. The cops know what bike clubs are violent and break the law, your husband is obviously a member of one of them. I'm sure the pictures were so that when they get video of patch wearers like your husband being involved in violence they can identify him.
Bike clubs are not law enforcement officers, yet they feel they can take the law into their own hands. Have you seen the video of a group tearing up a casino with baseball bats, knives and killing people they though had betrayed them. Innocent people were hurt.
In Kansas, a 1% group member told a Patriot Guard Rider that the Patriot Guard cannot wear the Patriot Guard Emblem in Kansas.****, the Patriot Guard is a bunch of Patriotic Americans who attend military funerals, they are a group of Americans who ride motorcycles.
This is the USA and people have their freedoms, Americans do not have "territories" within our States. I say we find a state or an island to put all the bike clubs on and let them beat the *hit out of each other.
By the way, how does it feel to be a second class citizen within the bike club? Do they all own you?
I think you've been watching too much Sons of Anarchy or something. First of all, I never claimed to be a victim. Other than a speeding ticket 13 years ago, my husband has never had any trouble with the police. He has never been arrested, and doesn't drink or do drugs. He is a hard-working, tax-paying citizen who deserves not to be harassed for being in a motorcycle club. The club he is in is not violent. All the guys have jobs, families, and/or kids. They are guys who like to ride and hang out.

I am no way second class citizen. I am an educated, stong woman and my life would never be like that. My husband would never be in a club like that. I have been around almost every mc in Santa Cruz and I have never seen a situation where a club owns and passes around the women. I don't know a single woman who would put up with anything like that. Additionally, my husband would never let anyone act disrespectfully to me. He is a wonderful man and I am so lucky to have found him. Everyone in the club has treated me and the other wives/girlfriends with nothing but respect. You are wrong to assume that I, or any other woman associated with this club, would be treated badly.

I know what video you are talking about. That was one indecent. Bad things happen in the would every day. My husband was not there. Just because you see something on tv does not mean it applies to all bikers.

Please don't go around "informing" people about motorcycle clubs because you are wrong!
Daddy-o

Walnut Creek, CA

#169 Jan 28, 2010
THE BIGGEST GANG I KNOW IS THE GOVERNMENT!
bikerscum

San Jose, CA

#170 Jan 28, 2010
SCREWTHEFEATHERHEADSHAHAS wrote:
Hey bikerscum bag, Cant you read??? You fart bag...
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Yes, I CAN read. Can you? He/she spelled the club's name Hell's Angels and that is not correct. For correct spelling, see my post. You must be awfully bright if the best you can do is call people names.
all who wonder

United States

#171 Jan 28, 2010
Hmm wrote:
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You "no" your rights? Its not profiling when you were pulled over for speeding.. He chose not to cite you. Fly your colors expect to be stopped. A gang is a gang Sureno, HA, Vago etc..
Boy Scouts? Shriners? People who wear club colors are not always "gangs"
Brother Bri

United States

#172 Jan 28, 2010
So over it wrote:
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How do you know what the others on this forum know and don't know? How many years have you been in a motorcycle club (or are you just a wannabe)? When motorcycle clubs present themselves as a street gang, that is how they are going to be perceived. Seeing that doesn't make people ignorant. All of your posts on this topic make you sound ignorant, just fyi....
Boy are you clueless.
Richard Smith

Vallejo, CA

#173 Jan 28, 2010
Tske a deep breath. Enjoy your life. Then never come back to this planet. Move on. Enjoy what you are some other place. Noah (not his real name) told me this. I have been thinking about it, what am I doing here? Motorcycles? Clubs? Pounding sand? Fifty years or so from now we are dead if we are lucky.
Brother Bri

United States

#174 Jan 28, 2010
Lisa wrote:
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I think you've been watching too much Sons of Anarchy or something. First of all, I never claimed to be a victim. Other than a speeding ticket 13 years ago, my husband has never had any trouble with the police. He has never been arrested, and doesn't drink or do drugs. He is a hard-working, tax-paying citizen who deserves not to be harassed for being in a motorcycle club. The club he is in is not violent. All the guys have jobs, families, and/or kids. They are guys who like to ride and hang out.
I am no way second class citizen. I am an educated, stong woman and my life would never be like that. My husband would never be in a club like that. I have been around almost every mc in Santa Cruz and I have never seen a situation where a club owns and passes around the women. I don't know a single woman who would put up with anything like that. Additionally, my husband would never let anyone act disrespectfully to me. He is a wonderful man and I am so lucky to have found him. Everyone in the club has treated me and the other wives/girlfriends with nothing but respect. You are wrong to assume that I, or any other woman associated with this club, would be treated badly.
I know what video you are talking about. That was one indecent. Bad things happen in the would every day. My husband was not there. Just because you see something on tv does not mean it applies to all bikers.
Please don't go around "informing" people about motorcycle clubs because you are wrong!
You speak nothing but the truth Lisa, well done!
So over it

San Francisco, CA

#175 Jan 28, 2010
Brother Bri wrote:
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Boy are you clueless.
Can't come up with anything more original than that huh? You don't know who I am and what I've seen. If you did, you might have a little more frame of reference for attacking me. You set yourself apart from mainstream society simply based on the fact that you ride a bike. I just find the whole thing totally ridiculous. There is nothing to not "get" here. I just think some of the posters here might have better things to do with their time then sit on these sites and berate people they know nothing at all about.
SOA

United States

#176 Jan 29, 2010
>>I think you've been watching too much Sons of Anarchy or something<<

LOL, you dont who your talking to, its real life and he knows it.
Lisa wrote:
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I think you've been watching too much Sons of Anarchy or something. First of all, I never claimed to be a victim. Other than a speeding ticket 13 years ago, my husband has never had any trouble with the police. He has never been arrested, and doesn't drink or do drugs. He is a hard-working, tax-paying citizen who deserves not to be harassed for being in a motorcycle club. The club he is in is not violent. All the guys have jobs, families, and/or kids. They are guys who like to ride and hang out.
I am no way second class citizen. I am an educated, stong woman and my life would never be like that. My husband would never be in a club like that. I have been around almost every mc in Santa Cruz and I have never seen a situation where a club owns and passes around the women. I don't know a single woman who would put up with anything like that. Additionally, my husband would never let anyone act disrespectfully to me. He is a wonderful man and I am so lucky to have found him. Everyone in the club has treated me and the other wives/girlfriends with nothing but respect. You are wrong to assume that I, or any other woman associated with this club, would be treated badly.
I know what video you are talking about. That was one indecent. Bad things happen in the would every day. My husband was not there. Just because you see something on tv does not mean it applies to all bikers.
Please don't go around "informing" people about motorcycle clubs because you are wrong!
Hmm

Santa Cruz, CA

#177 Jan 29, 2010
jason wrote:
<quoted text>then he should have given me a ticket you ****
Cops have a choice to ticket or not ticket. So he chose not to you *****
NSBMom

Port Orange, FL

#178 Jan 29, 2010
Fish wrote:
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I think you should contact the Nevada State Police immediately, as they were unaware that anyone fighting was fighting with an innocent bystander in the incident you are referring to.
Are you so delusional that you think you can come on one of these boards and just make stuff up to fit your agenda?
As for me I know this: There are a lot of allegations going around and I think I know who the alligator is.
BS. There were innocent people involved. People that were not with either of the bike clubs. They just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time when the knives, chains and baseball bats came out. They were trying to hide behind anything they could.
NSBMom

Port Orange, FL

#179 Jan 29, 2010
Lisa wrote:
Obviously, from reading the majority of the posts in here, most of the people posting do not know people in motorcycle clubs. It is absolutely ridiculous to assume that just because someone is in a motorcycle club that they are a criminal, violent, don't have a job, are a drug user, etc. Those are stereotypes. Any person from any walk of life can do bad things. Judge individual people by their actions and not by what you perceive them to be or do.
Have you ever heard the saying "You are known by the company you keep? or Guilty by association? How about aiding and abetting?

Why would any upstanding citizen make the choice to hang out with known criminals?
Lisa

Santa Cruz, CA

#181 Jan 29, 2010
NSBMom wrote:
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Have you ever heard the saying "You are known by the company you keep? or Guilty by association? How about aiding and abetting?
Why would any upstanding citizen make the choice to hang out with known criminals?
Known criminals? Who are talking about? Aiding and abetting? You're not making a whole lot of sense. Remember: You don't even know me, so it's pretty outrageous for you to be making wild accusations about me. Just because my husband rides a motorcycle and is in a club doesn't make us bad people. You're just judging us. If that's what it takes in order for you to feel important or better than other people you have some serious problems.
Lisa

Santa Cruz, CA

#182 Jan 29, 2010
Brother Bri wrote:
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You speak nothing but the truth Lisa, well done!
Thanks Brother Bri :)

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