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Judge: lawsuits can proceed against theater owner in Colorado massacre

There are 21 comments on the www.reuters.com story from Apr 17, 2013, titled Judge: lawsuits can proceed against theater owner in Colorado massacre. In it, www.reuters.com reports that:

A federal judge refused on Wednesday to dismiss wrongful death and personal injury claims brought against a movie theater chain on behalf of victims of last summer's mass shooting at a suburban Denver screening of the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises." U.S. District Judge R. Brooke Jackson ruled that Cinemark USA, owner of the theater where 12 ... (more)

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Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#1 Apr 17, 2013
DEEP POCKETS!
Anonymous

Ashburn, VA

#2 Apr 17, 2013
Hmmm
Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Richmond, IN

#3 Apr 18, 2013
How is the theatre chain responsible for the actions of a demented gunman?
Ninthman

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#4 Apr 18, 2013
Work place violence?

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#5 Apr 18, 2013
LOL, this is comical.

Let's get this straight. A depressed individual who was on a form of mind altering drugs ( http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/natio... )goes into a movie theater and begins killing people.

The focus is never on the drugs that altered his mind chemistry, instead, on the tools that he used.

So now, the courts are saying that the movie theater must pay damages to the people that were in the theater because the theater did not keep the people safe.

Well, I have a question. If it is the responsibility of the Theater to keep people safe, then would one conclude that it is the responsibility of the government to keep people safe? But, government gets off free here. And as history has shown, governments cannot keep people safe.

If you want safety and security, then you the individual are responsible to keep yourself safe and secure. Looking upon other entities to keep you safe and secure is laughable.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#6 Apr 18, 2013
Kahoki wrote:
LOL, this is comical.
Let's get this straight. A depressed individual who was on a form of mind altering drugs ( http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/natio... )goes into a movie theater and begins killing people.
The focus is never on the drugs that altered his mind chemistry, instead, on the tools that he used.
So now, the courts are saying that the movie theater must pay damages to the people that were in the theater because the theater did not keep the people safe.
Well, I have a question. If it is the responsibility of the Theater to keep people safe, then would one conclude that it is the responsibility of the government to keep people safe? But, government gets off free here. And as history has shown, governments cannot keep people safe.
If you want safety and security, then you the individual are responsible to keep yourself safe and secure. Looking upon other entities to keep you safe and secure is laughable.
It is evident you want to take food out of the mouths of lawyer's children.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#7 Apr 18, 2013
The theater is liable because they let a psycho in with multiple weapons.

Why didn't an alarm go off if he used the emergency exit?

Why didn't anyone check when an emergency exit door is propped open for 10 minutes?

Yes, the theater is liable.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#8 Apr 18, 2013
Is it a law that these exits have a alarm on them when opened. Maybe the door wasn't propped open but far enough to get something small in it so no one would notice.

I don't see how the theater could be held responsible for what that nut did. It would be like suing the city because you were killed in a drive by shooting.
August

Trenton, FL

#9 Apr 18, 2013
Sterkfontein Swartkrans wrote:
How is the theatre chain responsible for the actions of a demented gunman?
Because they are responsible for the "gun free zone" that they created and did not secure.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#10 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
The theater is liable because they let a psycho in with multiple weapons.
Why didn't an alarm go off if he used the emergency exit?
Why didn't anyone check when an emergency exit door is propped open for 10 minutes?
Yes, the theater is liable.
Unarmed employees could have stopped an armed gun man how? Throw a large buttered pop corn at him?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#11 Apr 19, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Unarmed employees could have stopped an armed gun man how? Throw a large buttered pop corn at him?
We'll never know if they could have done anything to stop him or not because apparently they never even tried.

That's why they're being sued.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#12 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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We'll never know if they could have done anything to stop him or not because apparently they never even tried.
That's why they're being sued.
I suppose every corner store will now have to have 2 armed guards, just in case...
August

Trenton, FL

#13 Apr 19, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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I suppose every corner store will now have to have 2 armed guards, just in case...
Precisely the type of smartass, kneejerk response that leads to moronic legislature like the recently failed gun control bill.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#14 Apr 19, 2013
August wrote:
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Precisely the type of smartass, kneejerk response that leads to moronic legislature like the recently failed gun control bill.
The alarm goes off, an employee goes to look, see's nothing and goes back to his/her work station. Do you call the police, do the police call in the detectives and start taking fingerprints? Do DNA tests? Maybe have crisis counselors come in and talk with the audience?
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The only real protection would be armed guards. Maybe the theater could borrow the 101st Airborne on weekends.
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This lawsuit is meant to give lawyers extra income.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#15 Apr 19, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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The alarm goes off, an employee goes to look, see's nothing and goes back to his/her work station. Do you call the police, do the police call in the detectives and start taking fingerprints? Do DNA tests? Maybe have crisis counselors come in and talk with the audience?
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The only real protection would be armed guards. Maybe the theater could borrow the 101st Airborne on weekends.
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This lawsuit is meant to give lawyers extra income.
How about the employee closes the emergency door which had been propped open while the gunman was getting his guns out of the car?
Gee, now that might have actually prevented the massacre.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#16 Apr 19, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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How about the employee closes the emergency door which had been propped open while the gunman was getting his guns out of the car?
Gee, now that might have actually prevented the massacre.
The fact you say "might" indicates he might not have been stopped.

The employee gets shot as he tries to close he door, gunman pushes body out of the way and starts shooting the people in the theater.

or:

Door gets locked, shooter showing ticket stub reenters theater through front door (with a few guns hidden in coat), enters the theater and starts shooting the people inside.
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This guy was determined to kill people, the emergency door made things a little easier.
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The real blame belongs to those who permitted this kid to walk free in society.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#17 Apr 20, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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The fact you say "might" indicates he might not have been stopped.
The employee gets shot as he tries to close he door, gunman pushes body out of the way and starts shooting the people in the theater.
or:
Door gets locked, shooter showing ticket stub reenters theater through front door (with a few guns hidden in coat), enters the theater and starts shooting the people inside.
.
This guy was determined to kill people, the emergency door made things a little easier.
.
The real blame belongs to those who permitted this kid to walk free in society.
Either way it still makes the theater liable.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#18 Apr 20, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Either way it still makes the theater liable.
Then every mom and pop grocery store would be liable too.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#19 Apr 21, 2013
LookingToEscape wrote:
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Then every mom and pop grocery store would be liable too.
If they allow a person to sneak in though an unsecured emergency exit with guns and they slaughter their patrons, then YES, they would be liable as well.

Since: Mar 08

Allentown, PA

#20 Apr 21, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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If they allow a person to sneak in though an unsecured emergency exit with guns and they slaughter their patrons, then YES, they would be liable as well.
They "allow" is ridiclous. The issue is could the theater forsee such an event. The plantiffs will have to show Cinemark systematically ignored dangerous conditions.
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An alarmed door would not prevent a mass shooting. The plantiffs will have to show it would have.

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