Albemarle Supervisors Moving to Strip...

Albemarle Supervisors Moving to Strip Dumler of Board Duties

There are 52 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Mar 8, 2013, titled Albemarle Supervisors Moving to Strip Dumler of Board Duties. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The Albemarle County Board of Supervisors is moving to strip Supervisor Chris Dumler of all his duties as a board member.

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Cvillian

Charlottesville, VA

#42 Mar 12, 2013
Answering many misconceptions:

Dumler is losing his ability to govern effectively. No boards, commissions or committees. No weekends to serve the public at Town Halls until July. Constituents NOT wanting to talk to him. Protesters interrupting and sometimes hijacking full BOS meetings. Having to cancel public meeting due to death threat. Having to cancel a week of public appearances due to arrest.
Not being able to work for 48 hours each week (that's 28% of his time BTW) while in jail. No constituent phone calls etc etc.

Dumler could not have taken an Alford plea to the original felony charge of Forcible Sodomy, as he would have lost to much in admitting to a felony: gun ownership rights, voting rights, loss of elected position, perhaps loss of law license, JAG officer position in Army reserves etc. Pleading down to Sexual Battery was better for him.

The evidence mounts against him in preparation for the Court, vis-a-vis "material adverse effects". Dumler will posit that the Scottsville constituents want him to stay. Patently not true. Small sampling of voters now show otherwise; large poll forthcoming with similar results. If he does not resign, the Court will remove him or at least call for a recall vote, which he will lose.

For those who wish the story were over: That is not going to happen until he resigns, is removed or recalled. People are angry at him, and the longer he stays in the angrier they become. The numbers of angry voters is also increasing. They are angry because they have been duped by a classic con. The bigger the front, the bigger the back, they say. An unknown, Dumler moved here as a student in 2006, and in 5 years is the darling of the local Democratic Party. The front is: he stands for law and justice as a lawyer; the back is that he's a criminal and sex offender. The front is he raised money for Sexual Assault; the back is he's a sexual offender. The front is he's new honest and honorable kind of politician; the back is he's old school sex abusing, cheating win-at-all-costs politician who has to hire a PR firm just to make a statement and design a strategy to stay in office. The people of the Scottsville District were duped, as were the Democrats, and they are angry angry angry. Not to mention his victims who were also duped by the front, his charm, only to be abused by the back, his sexual abuse. When you are duped, you get ANGRY!

"Hell hath no fury...", Chris.
Mimi

Free Union, VA

#43 Mar 12, 2013
When I retired from Albemarle County in 2011 members of the Board of Supervisors were eligible for health insurance. As far as I know that is still the policy.
Missy

Charlottesville, VA

#44 Mar 12, 2013
Comp wrote:
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Dumler's compensation for his seat on the BOS is $14,542 per year. Members of the BOS are not eligible for health insurance coverage under the County's plan.
Thanks for the clarification. I did not realize that the BOS did not share in the County benefit plan and I apologize for the error.
Erin

Scottsville, VA

#45 Mar 12, 2013
Gnu wrote:
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Erin, I agree. But he is a survivor; don't be surprised if you see his rise back into politics, stronger than ever. We have many politicians that have done just that.
Hi Gnu! Isn't that the truth? Do you admire Mark Twain? "There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress." Feel free to substitute the name of your local governing body for "Congress".
real central va Marine

Crozet, VA

#47 Mar 13, 2013
Cvillian wrote:
Answering many misconceptions:
Dumler is losing his ability to govern effectively. No boards, commissions or committees. No weekends to serve the public at Town Halls until July. Constituents NOT wanting to talk to him. Protesters interrupting and sometimes hijacking full BOS meetings. Having to cancel public meeting due to death threat. Having to cancel a week of public appearances due to arrest.
Not being able to work for 48 hours each week (that's 28% of his time BTW) while in jail. No constituent phone calls etc etc.
Dumler could not have taken an Alford plea to the original felony charge of Forcible Sodomy, as he would have lost to much in admitting to a felony: gun ownership rights, voting rights, loss of elected position, perhaps loss of law license, JAG officer position in Army reserves etc. Pleading down to Sexual Battery was better for him.
The evidence mounts against him in preparation for the Court, vis-a-vis "material adverse effects". Dumler will posit that the Scottsville constituents want him to stay. Patently not true. Small sampling of voters now show otherwise; large poll forthcoming with similar results. If he does not resign, the Court will remove him or at least call for a recall vote, which he will lose.
For those who wish the story were over: That is not going to happen until he resigns, is removed or recalled. People are angry at him, and the longer he stays in the angrier they become. The numbers of angry voters is also increasing. They are angry because they have been duped by a classic con. The bigger the front, the bigger the back, they say. An unknown, Dumler moved here as a student in 2006, and in 5 years is the darling of the local Democratic Party. The front is: he stands for law and justice as a lawyer; the back is that he's a criminal and sex offender. The front is he raised money for Sexual Assault; the back is he's a sexual offender. The front is he's new honest and honorable kind of politician; the back is he's old school sex abusing, cheating win-at-all-costs politician who has to hire a PR firm just to make a statement and design a strategy to stay in office. The people of the Scottsville District were duped, as were the Democrats, and they are angry angry angry. Not to mention his victims who were also duped by the front, his charm, only to be abused by the back, his sexual abuse. When you are duped, you get ANGRY!
"Hell hath no fury...", Chris.
In an Alford plea you still maintain your innocence, yet admit that the evidence (circumstantial or otherwise) is enough to gain a conviction for the prosecution. Why is it better to lie and plead to something you didn't commit, than to maintain your innocence?
real central va Marine

Crozet, VA

#48 Mar 13, 2013
Unless of course you AREN'T innocent.....
Control

Charlottesville, VA

#49 Mar 13, 2013
Charlottesville Man wrote:
oh leave him alone. he did nothing wrong. she might have said no, but she wanted it. she meant yes anyway.
Oh please, if she said, no then why did he say, I am sorry. Why was he convicted..
Charlottesville Man

Waynesboro, VA

#50 Mar 13, 2013
Control wrote:
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Oh please, if she said, no then why did he say, I am sorry. Why was he convicted..
He said I'm sorry because he was required to by the plea agreement. He was convicted because he pled guilty. Many innocent people have pled guilty to crimes they did not commit.

Any of you people who say you would never plead guilty to a crime you didn't commit is completely clueless about our criminal (un)justice system!

Most of our prosecutors could care less whether a person is guilty or innocent, all they care about is whether they can make a case against you. Guilt or innocence has nothing to do with anything, and often pleading guilty is the only sensible option.
Charlottesville Man

Waynesboro, VA

#51 Mar 13, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>In an Alford plea you still maintain your innocence, yet admit that the evidence (circumstantial or otherwise) is enough to gain a conviction for the prosecution. Why is it better to lie and plead to something you didn't commit, than to maintain your innocence?
The prosecutor did not offer the option of an Alford plea, so he had to accept what they offered or go to court. Of course he would have used the Alford plea if they offered it. You just don't understand how our justice system really works!
What nut

Charlottesville, VA

#52 Mar 13, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>In an Alford plea you still maintain your innocence, yet admit that the evidence (circumstantial or otherwise) is enough to gain a conviction for the prosecution. Why is it better to lie and plead to something you didn't commit, than to maintain your innocence?
Unfortunately, Alford pleas have become the last refuge of those who don't want to plead guilty in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Alford pleas were designed to allow a person who had committed a crime "which they didn't remember" to plead guilty; because the person really didn't know. Think about a person blind drunk hitting someone with a bat and killing them. The person doesn't remember doing it, but thirty witnesses said that the person did. So you can't plead guilty, because "you don't know' that you are guilty.

For any other circumstance, this plea is not an option, plead guilty or go to trial. Unfortunately, this too has been corrupted.
Roger_O_Vernout

Charlottesville, VA

#53 Mar 16, 2013
New Chris Dumler website with plenty of news and info: http://chrisdumlermustgo.com/
Wanna hunka Dumler

Charlottesville, VA

#54 Mar 17, 2013
That Chris Dumler is a good looking guy! He can sodomize me anytime!

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