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Romney: Obamacare fiasco "rotting" Obama's second term

There are 669 comments on the CBS News story from Nov 3, 2013, titled Romney: Obamacare fiasco "rotting" Obama's second term. In it, CBS News reports that:

Not so, says the Massachusetts program's architect, former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass., who challenged Mr. Obama for the presidency in 2012.

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spOko

Oakland, CA

#186 Nov 8, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't mommy teach you punctuation pookie.?
Ah the daily horse crap from El Bimbo ...

Since: Apr 13

Littleton, CO

#187 Nov 8, 2013
It's funny how you people are concerned about doctors having to work for nothing...what?! They arnt goin to make 400k a year or more if it comes into affect? Don't judge something before it comes to fruition. You compare his plans to other country's in the world?! We arnt the world were America!
mike hock

Teaneck, NJ

#188 Nov 8, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Because of the new law? sure pal, sure.
lets say that isn't bullshit and pretend we don't smell what we all smell...you are now available for the exchange policies and you cannot be denied insurance. unless you bullshit on the form,then your policy may be void, so straighten up, young man!)
I'll be civil and assume you're pulling my leg instesd of assuming your full l of shit, k?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#189 Nov 8, 2013
mike hock wrote:
<quoted text> I'll be civil and assume you're pulling my leg instesd of assuming your full l of shit, k?
sure pal, sure.

so what exchange are you trying to enroll in?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#190 Nov 8, 2013
spOko wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah the daily horse crap from El Bimbo ...
the funny thing is, my punctuation was correct in that post.(you could argue the use of elipses, but technically it is a judgement call.)

and then he erred in the punctuation of his post.

this is what usually happens in this situation. on another thread here, Vet has been playing the grammar nazi and then got totally bitch-slapped on his improper use of grammar and punctuation.

some people cannot argue the facts, so they have to just make asses of themselves...
mike hock

Teaneck, NJ

#191 Nov 8, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>sure pal, sure.
so what exchange are you trying to enroll in?
none at this point. fed up with the whole mess. will take my chances

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#192 Nov 8, 2013
mike hock wrote:
<quoted text> none at this point. fed up with the whole mess. will take my chances
So you complained about losing your insurance, but now you say you don't care enough about it to actually look for more, when you know you cannot be denied insurance.

sure pal, sure.

anyone smell that?
mike hock

Teaneck, NJ

#194 Nov 8, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>So you complained about losing your insurance, but now you say you don't care enough about it to actually look for more, when you know you cannot be denied insurance.
sure pal, sure.
anyone smell that?
look. i've never used it and now the same thing is 450/mo more. i worked hard for the last 40 years & never collected a dime on my cars, trucks, homes, or medicine. Never took a dime from the gov.. no food stamps, unemployment, disabilty, nothing. I pay my own way in every way. you know why? freedom!.. i do what I want, when I want. Don't owe squat! My med insurance is left over from when I had people depending on me. I don't need it or want it anyway. If you think this is a good thing, this armed robbery of good men & women, then you'll never understand what it's like to really live your life on your own terms, so smell that!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#195 Nov 8, 2013
mike hock wrote:
<quoted text> look. i've never used it and now the same thing is 450/mo more. i worked hard for the last 40 years & never collected a dime on my cars, trucks, homes, or medicine. Never took a dime from the gov.. no food stamps, unemployment, disabilty, nothing. I pay my own way in every way. you know why? freedom!.. i do what I want, when I want. Don't owe squat! My med insurance is left over from when I had people depending on me. I don't need it or want it anyway. If you think this is a good thing, this armed robbery of good men & women, then you'll never understand what it's like to really live your life on your own terms, so smell that!
so shouldn't you be close to medicare age?

yeah, i've never made a car home or medical insurance claim either. but i sure as hell wasn't going to leave it to others to pay for if bad luck hit me.

“HILLARY OR TRUMP”

Since: Mar 09

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

#196 Nov 9, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>Duh...they pray before
they eat but thanks for stating the obvious.
So what American Imbecile?
Who cares what their religion is? I'm not
some hater who chooses shows based on
what someone's sexuality or religion happens
to be. That's what you idiots on the right do
and why you all remain uneducated, and
hateful.
I have watched every episode and never,ever
saw them watch TV. My guess is you heard
this right wing bs from FOX news which is
about as reliable as your dysfunctional
republican party.
Actually I SAW it on FOX New's The Five where he said he was offended by what Odummy said.

Watch and weep

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/08/13/duck-dyn...

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#197 Nov 9, 2013
Phishhed wrote:
It's funny how you people are concerned about doctors having to work for nothing...what?! They arnt goin to make 400k a year or more if it comes into affect? Don't judge something before it comes to fruition. You compare his plans to other country's in the world?! We arnt the world were America!
the reality of it all is.. most of the countries in the EU went either bankrupt or going bankrupt because of their freebies.

and as for your comment about america... we are already broke. and you want us to get more broke by emulating the stupid economic policies of the EU?

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#198 Nov 9, 2013
American_Infidel wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I SAW it on FOX New's The Five where he said he was offended by what Odummy said.
Watch and weep
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/08/13/duck-dyn...
Here's what I see.
White Christian men that make duck calls.
Do they pray? Duh, yes.
Are they racists? Duh, yes.

Have they ever said anything racist on the show about black people?

No. They are slightly better educated than your average racist.

You know why?

Because racists spew their venom and hatred in private when they are amongst other racists because they know if they made their racist views public, their show would last as long as Paula Deen's did.

Now, run along, you little racist Christian, and be proud of your racist friends that like you, have no spine, no balls, no pride, and no real faith in Christ but man do y'all do great work for Satan.

KKKarma will be extra good to all of you small minded simpletons.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#199 Nov 9, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's what I see.
White Christian men that make duck calls.
Do they pray? Duh, yes.
Are they racists? Duh, yes.
Have they ever said anything racist on the show about black people?
No. They are slightly better educated than your average racist.
You know why?
Because racists spew their venom and hatred in private when they are amongst other racists because they know if they made their racist views public, their show would last as long as Paula Deen's did.
Now, run along, you little racist Christian, and be proud of your racist friends that like you, have no spine, no balls, no pride, and no real faith in Christ but man do y'all do great work for Satan.
KKKarma will be extra good to all of you small minded simpletons.
Don't worry. You may get to kill them. Then you get it. whether god is real or a secular version. Don't worry, be happy~

“BILLARY 2016 ”

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#201 Nov 12, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Don't worry. You may get to kill them. Then you get it. whether god is real or a secular version. Don't worry, be happy~
Kill WHO?
What planet are you on because it's not in this galaxy, you demented whackadoo.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#202 Nov 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>So you complained about losing your insurance, but now you say you don't care enough about it to actually look for more, when you know you cannot be denied insurance.
sure pal, sure.
anyone smell that?
It's hard for me to fathom that anyone could even stand to look at oscumma much less believe anything that comes from that lying pos's purple lips. This monster is not only changing healthcare for the worst, he is destroying a country founded on indiv. liberty.

Millions are losing their policies but that is just the beginning. Now that the govt. has everyone who uses health insurance by the balls, the squeeze is going to increase. oscumma needs everyone on the govt. dole so it will become more and more expensive to keep your own policy. Business will have no reason to keep their policies due to oppressive tactics which is why the godfathers of the govt will give them 'a deal they can't refuse'.

The illegals will guarantee a successful takeover and the taxpayers will be fully enslaved. There will be no place in this world where people will be able to enjoy their liberties once the United States falls into step with the New World Order.

Eventually, the best and brightest will find work in other fields as it will make little sense to channel such energy for so little pay. Currently, inferior hospitals and doctors are in the exchanges which is an insight into the kind of care you will receive. Now, the govt will bus everyone under your umbrella and in order for them to receive free care, your's is going to get shittier. That's the price you will have to pay. If you have shitty care already, this won't affect you except you will end up paying more through taxes and increased costs for products and services selected to pay for commiecare.

Eventually, the majority will be on govt. healthcare and by that time, there will be a shortage of doctors. Most people have no idea what this is like. I've seen this nightmare first hand and know this will be the future for everyone. The waiting rooms will be overflowing with people and the wait will be longer. Some will have waiting rooms for the ill and a seperate waiting room for the well but no one will bother to heed the signs. Waiting rooms will be loud, furniture tattered and dirty. Staff will be irritated, impersonal and exhausted. Mixups will be the norm because overworked and exhausted employees will make them. Many of them will be placed because the govt. needs to balance the demographics and we know what that means....think of the post office.

The best and the brightest will choose professions that will compensate their talents. Like any commie country, the govt. will select students to attend FREE medical school in order to serve the govt. courtesy of the taxpayers. These selections will meet criteria but not necessarily the best candidates of course.

The takers are nothing but parasites who are sucking the life out of the hardworking folks who will be handing over more and more of their money to the govt.

What kind of idiot thinks the govt. should take on the very costly business of healthcare? It can't even manage Medicaid and Medicare.....much less anything else. Look at our schools.....the govt spends more money and the students get dumber. Go figure.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#203 Nov 12, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>It's hard for me to fathom that anyone could even stand to look at oscumma much less believe anything that comes from that lying pos's purple lips. This monster is not only changing healthcare for the worst, he is destroying a country founded on indiv. liberty.
Millions are losing their policies but that is just the beginning. Now that the govt. has everyone who uses health insurance by the balls, the squeeze is going to increase. oscumma needs everyone on the govt. dole so it will become more and more expensive to keep your own policy. Business will have no reason to keep their policies due to oppressive tactics which is why the godfathers of the govt will give them 'a deal they can't refuse'.
The illegals will guarantee a successful takeover and the taxpayers will be fully enslaved. There will be no place in this world where people will be able to enjoy their liberties once the United States falls into step with the New World Order.
Eventually, the best and brightest will find work in other fields as it will make little sense to channel such energy for so little pay. Currently, inferior hospitals and doctors are in the exchanges which is an insight into the kind of care you will receive. Now, the govt will bus everyone under your umbrella and in order for them to receive free care, your's is going to get shittier. That's the price you will have to pay. If you have shitty care already, this won't affect you except you will end up paying more through taxes and increased costs for products and services selected to pay for commiecare.
Eventually, the majority will be on govt. healthcare and by that time, there will be a shortage of doctors. Most people have no idea what this is like. I've seen this nightmare first hand and know this will be the future for everyone. The waiting rooms will be overflowing with people and the wait will be longer. Some will have waiting rooms for the ill and a seperate waiting room for the well but no one will bother to heed the signs. Waiting rooms will be loud, furniture tattered and dirty. Staff will be irritated, impersonal and exhausted. Mixups will be the norm because overworked and exhausted employees will make them. Many of them will be placed because the govt. needs to balance the demographics and we know what that means....think of the post office.
The best and the brightest will choose professions that will compensate their talents. Like any commie country, the govt. will select students to attend FREE medical school in order to serve the govt. courtesy of the taxpayers. These selections will meet criteria but not necessarily the best candidates of course.
The takers are nothing but parasites who are sucking the life out of the hardworking folks who will be handing over more and more of their money to the govt.
What kind of idiot thinks the govt. should take on the very costly business of healthcare? It can't even manage Medicaid and Medicare.....much less anything else. Look at our schools.....the govt spends more money and the students get dumber. Go figure.
Quite the imagination you have there.

unfortunately, all of your invented scenarios are based upon false assumptions. if you would like to deal with the real world, come join us...
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#204 Nov 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Quite the imagination you have there.
unfortunately, all of your invented scenarios are based upon false assumptions. if you would like to deal with the real world, come join us...
It appears you are the one in la la land because you can't even face the truth when it stands before you flipping you off and laughing hysterically.

I'm sure you won't read this but I will post it for anyone who wants to be informed because this is the TRUTH you refuse to acknowledge.

https://www.aamc.org/download/100598/data/

Here is an excerpt about Dirty Harry Reid's stomping ground What kind of fool thinks this clown knows anything about health care?

Nevada (2009)–“Nevada Currently Ranks 48th in the Number of Physicians per Capita”
A 2009 report by The Center for Education and Health Services Outreach (CEHSO) at the University of Nevada School of Medicine describes the changing face of the physician workforce in Nevada. The makeup of practicing physicians in Nevada is characterized by growth in the proportion of female physicians and by growing percentages of older physicians nearing retirement. Furthermore, only 5 out of 39 specialties have practicing physicians at a per capita level higher than other states in the region and only 2 higher than the national average leaving Nevada experiencing shortages for most medical and surgical specialties. Also troubling is the fact that Nevada only has 218 physicians per 100,000 of the population while the national average is 307. A 2006 report by LarsonAllen, a Minnesota consulting firm charged with reviewing Nevada medical education capacity and need, recommends that the state develop a health sciences center in order to dramatically increase medical school and graduate medical education training opportunities. With one of the lowest physician to population ratios and one of the highest population growth rates in the nation, the existing medical education system cannot keep up with the need.27"

Let's not forget when the doctors left in droves when Nevada's medical malpractice rates were the highest in the country. Specialists saw a dramatic drop in pay, so they left. Same for IL...oscumma's stomping ground. And yet you are stupid enough to think THEY know how to run a govt controlled health care system?

After reading this report, wouldn't you think oscumma and his bandits would have considered this before moving forward on ACA? The nutjob decides to bring in MORE people when there aren't enough doctors currently.

The LAST thing we should do is to have a govt. takeover. We have a shortage of specialists in this country already due to lack of pay...that's a little insight to govt. run healthcare. You are just too dense to understand the real impact ACA will have on this country.

The stupid don't realize oscumma is forcing everyone to absorb this shortage...misery loves company. Soon every state in this country will have shitty care like Harry Reid's Nevada and Oscumma's Illinois. Read on and find out where your state ranks.
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#205 Nov 12, 2013
Ridiculous, anyone who had their own policy in the last 15 years has experienced the same price jacking annually, and cancellations that are being played out like some new phenomenon by those of you who have not paid for coverage of a comprehensive policy in the individual market.

Millions of citizens where dropped, and had price increases.

Anyone saying they didn't was not paying premiums, but rather paying for sham discount memberships thinking they had insurance.
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>It's hard for me to fathom that anyone could even stand to look at oscumma much less believe anything that comes from that lying pos's purple lips. This monster is not only changing healthcare for the worst, he is destroying a country founded on indiv. liberty.
Millions are losing their policies but that is just the beginning. Now that the govt. has everyone who uses health insurance by the balls, the squeeze is going to increase. oscumma needs everyone on the govt. dole so it will become more and more expensive to keep your own policy. Business will have no reason to keep their policies due to oppressive tactics which is why the godfathers of the govt will give them 'a deal they can't refuse'.
The illegals will guarantee a successful takeover and the taxpayers will be fully enslaved. There will be no place in this world where people will be able to enjoy their liberties once the United States falls into step with the New World Order.
Eventually, the best and brightest will find work in other fields as it will make little sense to channel such energy for so little pay. Currently, inferior hospitals and doctors are in the exchanges which is an insight into the kind of care you will receive. Now, the govt will bus everyone under your umbrella and in order for them to receive free care, your's is going to get shittier. That's the price you will have to pay. If you have shitty care already, this won't affect you except you will end up paying more through taxes and increased costs for products and services selected to pay for commiecare.
Eventually, the majority will be on govt. healthcare and by that time, there will be a shortage of doctors. Most people have no idea what this is like. I've seen this nightmare first hand and know this will be the future for everyone. The waiting rooms will be overflowing with people and the wait will be longer. Some will have waiting rooms for the ill and a seperate waiting room for the well but no one will bother to heed the signs. Waiting rooms will be loud, furniture tattered and dirty. Staff will be irritated, impersonal and exhausted. Mixups will be the norm because overworked and exhausted employees will make them. Many of them will be placed because the govt. needs to balance the demographics and we know what that means....think of the post office.
The best and the brightest will choose professions that will compensate their talents. Like any commie country, the govt. will select students to attend FREE medical school in order to serve the govt. courtesy of the taxpayers. These selections will meet criteria but not necessarily the best candidates of course.
The takers are nothing but parasites who are sucking the life out of the hardworking folks who will be handing over more and more of their money to the govt.
What kind of idiot thinks the govt. should take on the very costly business of healthcare? It can't even manage Medicaid and Medicare.....much less anything else. Look at our schools.....the govt spends more money and the students get dumber. Go figure.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#206 Nov 12, 2013
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/02/health/obamacar...

CNN attempts to create the facade that the govt is going to be able to fix it when in reality.....it will be the govt. who will destroy it via ACA.

The govt must NOT be in the health care business.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#207 Nov 12, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Ridiculous, anyone who had their own policy in the last 15 years has experienced the same price jacking annually, and cancellations that are being played out like some new phenomenon by those of you who have not paid for coverage of a comprehensive policy in the individual market.
Millions of citizens where dropped, and had price increases.
Anyone saying they didn't was not paying premiums, but rather paying for sham discount memberships thinking they had insurance.
<quoted text>
Obviously, you wouldn't know what has been going on in the last fifteen years or you would understand why the govt. should NOT be in the business of controlling health care. You are in denial because your phallic god has been exposed. Just because YOU enjoy having it up your ass does not mean the rest of the country want it there.

1. There is a shortage of doctors and nurses already. oscumma's attack on the system will be painful for everyone....particularly the baby boomers. This is BIG Govt's way of dealing with this crisis. Death panels and denial of services for the largest group of consumers. Welcome Big Brother 1984. The time has come.
2. Salaries have dropped and costs have risen making medicine less desirable due to increased govt. control. The insurance industry have also interfered in the free market model aided by the liberal elite in govt., of course.
3. oscumma will bring in ILLEGALS to bankrupt this country further and take more money away from the hardworking few who have been enslaved by the govt. to support the growing population of parasites. Increasing the numbers of those who have less money, will have less power and less independence. It breaks the American spirit and it will create a society of govt. dependants who will never question, just comply.
4. High malpractice rates, lower salaries, long hours, outrageous costs to get the degree, increasing costs to run business, etc. have caused doctors to leave their states and go to other more favorable states. Imagine what will happen when there will be NO favorable states to practice? Here's what will happen:
a. dumb down the requirements to practice medicine, long waits, lack of treatment, errors, death(this will be well hidden by the liberal media for a while, at least.)
b. have taxpayers pay to educate doctors particularly the 'underserved' which usually means those who couldn't compete without getting help.
c. Less qualified, less intelligent and less comitted will deliver your health care. Why not choose someone who will play doctor two days a week, take three months off on maternity leave and come back to work....as competent as the full time physician who didn't need to cheat in order to even get in medical school. ACA will be filled with part timers who won't take the time to attend continuing education courses. They won't publish or consult because medicine will be part time for them.

The insurance industry is in bed with the govt. It has been socializing healthcare by dictating what services should cost. This has caused a reduction in specialists. This has opened the door to ACA.

You're just stupid enough to imagine the insurance industry has been driven by Republicans...nope BIG GOVT....and you want more of the same. What a fool.

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