Romney: Obamacare fiasco "rotting" Obama's second term

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Not so, says the Massachusetts program's architect, former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass., who challenged Mr. Obama for the presidency in 2012.
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<quoted text>Hope they blame Pelosi.
I do too and she has proven she is for Russian Style Communism too.
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Presidents inner circle are smart. They will scrap the ACA and find a way to blame Pelosi or Sebelius and appear Heroic for saving the American people from the Disaster.
pbo and his inner circle do not want the aca to work. the failures and problems were planned so that they can come back and suggest that the only way it can work is if big gov has full control and a single payer system is installed. that is what they want.
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<quoted text>I do too and she has proven she is for Russian Style Communism too.
Just in case you have not heard on your planet of retards but the Soviet Union is long, long gone!!
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<quoted text>You are not direct which you like to twist and spin the facts which you are consistent especially when the Liberals(bigots) have been politically involved where they have failed with policy like with the Insurance Industry.
So, how does this republican controlled House stack up when it comes to productivity? Not so well, the112th Congress is the least productive since they began keeping stats way back in 1947. Is this simple enough for you or would like some Freedom Fries with that?

Republican-controlled House of Representative bills passed by the Republicans:

46 Bills on Abortion.
113 Bills on Religion.
73 Bills on Family Relationships.
36 Bills on Marriage.
72 Bills on Firearms.
604 Bills on Taxation.
437 Bills on Govt Investigations.

Republican-controlled House of Representative Bills blocked by Republicans:

Blocked bill to aid Small Business.
Blocked Unemployment extension.
Blocked Bank Reform Bills.
Blocked Campaign Finance Reform and open Contributions Law.
Blocked MULTIPLE Jobs Bills.
Blocked Infrastructure Bill.
Blocked Ending Tax Breaks for companies that Outsource Jobs.
Blocked Wall Street Reform.
Blocked Energy Legislation.
Blocked Mine Safety Bill.
Blocked Oil Spill Liability Cap increase.
Blocked Bill to lower Oil Company Tax Breaks.
Blocked Bill to impose charging American Oil Companies on Oil achieved in the Gulf.
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Another classic manipulation ploy by the lefty dems to protect their arses in the mid=terms.....The Obama administration plans to delay the start of next year's ObamaCare enrollment period, a move pitched as a way to give consumers and insurance companies more time to study their options -- but which also conveniently pushes the second round of enrollment past the 2014 midterm elections.

A Department of Health and Human Services official confirmed the change to Fox News. The decision does not affect those trying to enroll this year, despite the myriad problems with the launch of the law and HealthCare.gov . Rather, it affects those who will sign up late next year for 2015 coverage.

The administration will allow consumers to start signing up on Nov. 15, 2014, as opposed to Oct. 15. Enrollment will last until Jan. 15, 2015, instead of Dec. 7.

House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton, R-Mich., questioned why the administration would delay the second round of enrollment and not the current one. Plain and simple, the dems are afraid Odumbocare will be the nail in their coffins, and they would be RIGHT!!!

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Just in case you have not heard on your planet of retards but the Soviet Union is long, long gone!!
Just in case you have not heard on your planet of retards Soviet Style Communism does still exist in Russia and I have relation that knows someone that is from Russia residing here permanently in the US that Russian Communism is alive and well and she will tell you too and can see that is exactly what the Liberals are trying to implement here in the US which is something you haven't experienced and you want nothing to do with it because it is all about control.

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So, how does this republican controlled House stack up when it comes to productivity? Not so well, the112th Congress is the least productive since they began keeping stats way back in 1947. Is this simple enough for you or would like some Freedom Fries with that?
Republican-controlled House of Representative bills passed by the Republicans:
46 Bills on Abortion.
113 Bills on Religion.
73 Bills on Family Relationships.
36 Bills on Marriage.
72 Bills on Firearms.
604 Bills on Taxation.
437 Bills on Govt Investigations.
Republican-controlled House of Representative Bills blocked by Republicans:
Blocked bill to aid Small Business.
Blocked Unemployment extension.
Blocked Bank Reform Bills.
Blocked Campaign Finance Reform and open Contributions Law.
Blocked MULTIPLE Jobs Bills.
Blocked Infrastructure Bill.
Blocked Ending Tax Breaks for companies that Outsource Jobs.
Blocked Wall Street Reform.
Blocked Energy Legislation.
Blocked Mine Safety Bill.
Blocked Oil Spill Liability Cap increase.
Blocked Bill to lower Oil Company Tax Breaks.
Blocked Bill to impose charging American Oil Companies on Oil achieved in the Gulf.
You mean blocking more Far Left Legislation tied to those bills that no one wants to see more of since this Liberalism is what has destroyed this country Socially and Economically that has been place for the past 50 years which the New Left Democrats are responsible for.

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Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Just in case you have not heard on your planet of retards Soviet Style Communism does still exist in Russia and I have relation that knows someone that is from Russia residing here permanently in the US that Russian Communism is alive and well and she will tell you too and can see that is exactly what the Liberals are trying to implement here in the US which is something you haven't experienced and you want nothing to do with it because it is all about control.
control?

what the liberals have in mind has nothing to do with "control", their total agenda is all about "irresponsibility".

akin to the tactics that "children" follow.

NO budget. NO financial plans. NO accountability.

CHILDREN.

but then, what does one expect from brain dead drug users?

it's the same rhetoric.

spew anger, but offer no logical recourse.

spend, spend, spend. JUST like children.

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control?
what the liberals have in mind has nothing to do with "control", their total agenda is all about "irresponsibility".
akin to the tactics that "children" follow.
NO budget. NO financial plans. NO accountability.
CHILDREN.
but then, what does one expect from brain dead drug users?
it's the same rhetoric.
spew anger, but offer no logical recourse.
spend, spend, spend. JUST like children.
It is about Social and Economical Control to Liberals who need control to achieve their Utopia that they know can't survive without others Wealth and as soon as the wealth is gone so is the Liberal's Liberalism because their is no more wealth to provide for Liberals who are mostly Non Productive and have no clue how to create their own weatlh.
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<quoted text>sure did and why do you think people want to see it repealed and only you for some reason see it differently.
It doesn't have to be repealed, all that is necessary is for the Federal Government to establish their own system of oversight for the Insurance industry by legislation.

Again....... McCarran-Ferguson only established that States could regulate insurance companies until such a time that the Federal Government implemented regulations over the industry.

There is no need for McCarran-Ferguson to be repealed, the 1945 Supreme Court decision acknowledged that Insurance and the sale of insurance is definitely commerce. Prior to the case Insurance was not considered commerce thus the States regulated insurance, McCarran-Ferguson Act at that point established the States could continue to regulate in their States Insurance "until the Federal Government implemented federal regulations and oversight of the industry. Til this point there has no been any Federal mandates over the industry, ACA only puts in place consumer protections and Standard policy components.
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Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>You are not direct which you like to twist and spin the facts which you are consistent especially when the Liberals(bigots) have been politically involved where they have failed with policy like with the Insurance Industry.
There has never been any congressional regulations put forth over the Insurance Industry in America.

This is not a difficult concept to grasp. Not until ACA has there even been consumer protections put in place to standardized their products made available to the public.

The insurance industry has been, on a federal level; unregulated since the 1945 decision. They have pretty much made their own rules for the market place and provided no course for consumer grievances.

That being said, there has been no policy Liberal, Conservative or otherwise to monitor the Insurance market from Congress ever. The present Insurance monopolies exist because there has not been any oversight of the industry. Big Insurers buy up smaller Insurers until the Big Insurers in a state dominates that state's market. There was no federal mandate to get approval and there was no federal agency to create guidelines forbidding those practices.

What you're saying is nowhere near the truth of what transpired with Insurance companies in America and the formation of the present monopolies in some States. You seem to be creating that scenario in your mind because it's no where near true.



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Eric Gustafson wrote:
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It doesn't have to be repealed, all that is necessary is for the Federal Government to establish their own system of oversight for the Insurance industry by legislation.
Again....... McCarran-Ferguson only established that States could regulate insurance companies until such a time that the Federal Government implemented regulations over the industry.
There is no need for McCarran-Ferguson to be repealed, the 1945 Supreme Court decision acknowledged that Insurance and the sale of insurance is definitely commerce. Prior to the case Insurance was not considered commerce thus the States regulated insurance, McCarran-Ferguson Act at that point established the States could continue to regulate in their States Insurance "until the Federal Government implemented federal regulations and oversight of the industry. Til this point there has no been any Federal mandates over the industry, ACA only puts in place consumer protections and Standard policy components.
The Federal Government already had the Authority and Oversight to regulate the Insurance industry by the Authority of the US Constitution in Article 1, Section 8 Clause 3 which is called the Commerce Clause and there is Federal Legislation that was enacted years ago called the Sherman Anti Trust Act which the SCOTUS confirmed in 1944 in the SCOTUS case of United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association and the McCarran–Ferguson Act took that authority away from the Federal Government.

United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v....

Sherman Antitrust Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Act

Article 1, Section 8

Clause 3. To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

http://www.shmoop.com/constitution/article-1-...

McCarran–Ferguson Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran-Ferguso...

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There has never been any congressional regulations put forth over the Insurance Industry in America.
This is not a difficult concept to grasp. Not until ACA has there even been consumer protections put in place to standardized their products made available to the public.
The insurance industry has been, on a federal level; unregulated since the 1945 decision. They have pretty much made their own rules for the market place and provided no course for consumer grievances.
That being said, there has been no policy Liberal, Conservative or otherwise to monitor the Insurance market from Congress ever. The present Insurance monopolies exist because there has not been any oversight of the industry. Big Insurers buy up smaller Insurers until the Big Insurers in a state dominates that state's market. There was no federal mandate to get approval and there was no federal agency to create guidelines forbidding those practices.
What you're saying is nowhere near the truth of what transpired with Insurance companies in America and the formation of the present monopolies in some States. You seem to be creating that scenario in your mind because it's no where near true.
SCOTUS confirmed that in 1944 in United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association and the Democrats changed that or should I say FDR since he signed the McCarran–Ferguson Act into law.

United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v....
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<quoted text>SCOTUS confirmed that in 1944 in United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association and the Democrats changed that or should I say FDR since he signed the McCarran–Ferguson Act into law.
United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v....
McCarran-Ferguson only established that States..... "could"..... regulate insurance companies......"until "...... such a time that the Federal Government implemented regulations over the industry.

The Court only confirmed insurance was commerce.......

FDR and Congress only confirmed that States "Could continue to regulate Insurance" ........ until they Feds devised and implemented an oversight agency......... Congress never established an Agency.......

That does not preclude congress from now establishing an oversight agency for Insurance in the same way the ACA establishes consumer protections and policy standards.
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The point is Congress never established an Oversight Agency for Insurance and deferred to the State Commissioners already in place in 1945 rather than create a new Insurance Agency at the Federal Level. That's remains in effect today.

No, the McCarran-Ferguson did not take authority away from the Federal Government..... that was not the intention and never happened........ the law clearly states until the Federal Government creates laws and governing principles of the insurance industry. The ACA was just reviewed by the Supreme Court, States don't have a choice in the new federal mandates on Insurance protections for consumers and standards for qualifying policies......
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>The Federal Government already had the Authority and Oversight to regulate the Insurance industry by the Authority of the US Constitution in Article 1, Section 8 Clause 3 which is called the Commerce Clause and there is Federal Legislation that was enacted years ago called the Sherman Anti Trust Act which the SCOTUS confirmed in 1944 in the SCOTUS case of United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association and the McCarran–Ferguson Act took that authority away from the Federal Government.
United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Association
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v....
Sherman Antitrust Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Act
Article 1, Section 8
Clause 3. To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
http://www.shmoop.com/constitution/article-1-...
McCarran–Ferguson Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran-Ferguso...

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The point is Congress never established an Oversight Agency for Insurance and deferred to the State Commissioners already in place in 1945 rather than create a new Insurance Agency at the Federal Level. That's remains in effect today.
No, the McCarran-Ferguson did not take authority away from the Federal Government..... that was not the intention and never happened........ the law clearly states until the Federal Government creates laws and governing principles of the insurance industry. The ACA was just reviewed by the Supreme Court, States don't have a choice in the new federal mandates on Insurance protections for consumers and standards for qualifying policies......
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The US never had employer sponsered health insurance either which was because of FDR' economical involvement with the Stabilization Act of 1942 he enacted into law and one of the consequences of the wage stabilization under the Act was that employers, unable to provide higher salaries to attract or retain employees, began to offer insurance plans, including health care packages, as a fringe benefit, thereby beginning the practice of employer-sponsored health insurance that the US never had before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabilization_Ac...

Executive Order 9328 on Prices and Wages.
April 8, 1943

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/...

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The point is Congress never established an Oversight Agency for Insurance and deferred to the State Commissioners already in place in 1945 rather than create a new Insurance Agency at the Federal Level. That's remains in effect today.
No, the McCarran-Ferguson did not take authority away from the Federal Government..... that was not the intention and never happened........ the law clearly states until the Federal Government creates laws and governing principles of the insurance industry. The ACA was just reviewed by the Supreme Court, States don't have a choice in the new federal mandates on Insurance protections for consumers and standards for qualifying policies......
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you obviously don't understand and what I posted confirms it with those links which clearly confirm that.
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What or how does that correlate to the issue of Insurance Industries not being regulated by the Federal Government?

Health Care in America is an age old issue....
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<quoted text>The US never had employer sponsered health insurance either which was because of FDR' economical involvement with the Stabilization Act of 1942 he enacted into law and one of the consequences of the wage stabilization under the Act was that employers, unable to provide higher salaries to attract or retain employees, began to offer insurance plans, including health care packages, as a fringe benefit, thereby beginning the practice of employer-sponsored health insurance that the US never had before.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabilization_Ac...
Executive Order 9328 on Prices and Wages.
April 8, 1943
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/...
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<quoted text>you obviously don't understand and what I posted confirms it with those links which clearly confirm that.
it's simple...... the McCarran-Ferguson did not take authority away from the Federal Government..... that was not the intention and never occurred........ the law clearly states until the Federal Government creates laws and governing principles over the insurance industry.

You said McCarran-Ferguson took authority away from the Federal Government. That is a false assumption.

That was neither the decision of the court or the purpose of the McCarran-Ferguson Act. The Act clearly allowed States to regulate insurance until the Feds created an oversight agency or laws for the Insurance industry.

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What or how does that correlate to the issue of Insurance Industries not being regulated by the Federal Government?
Health Care in America is an age old issue....
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That was the purpose behind the McCarran–Ferguson Act to keep Federal Government from regulating the business of Insurance under Federal Law.

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