Romney: Obamacare fiasco "rotting" Ob...

Romney: Obamacare fiasco "rotting" Obama's second term

There are 669 comments on the CBS News story from Nov 3, 2013, titled Romney: Obamacare fiasco "rotting" Obama's second term. In it, CBS News reports that:

Not so, says the Massachusetts program's architect, former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass., who challenged Mr. Obama for the presidency in 2012.

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lpg

United States

#269 Nov 19, 2013
obamacare, the thought of me whatching my penneys so i can help pay for this plan, why don't obama put these people to work why should the gov. give them a help on paying for ins. remenber the PHRASE from the DEMOCRATS, YOU HAVE TO PASS THE BILL TO FIND OUT WHATS IN IT. the hard working middle class are going broke paying for people that dont have to work. we need to get democrats out of office and stop the entitlement program that they have no problem giving away every thing the middle class works for. The biggest crap line our fearless leader said was he wants to help the middle class, are you kidding!!!!!!!!!
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#270 Nov 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>WOW! in one post you talks about the govt regulating what an insurance policy covers and now you are talking about the insurance industry being totally unregulated?
you still enjoy making an ass out of yourself with your ignorance, i see.
it is the constants in life that give me comfort...
sheesh!
That's the point woody, as it stands now the insurers aren't being regulated. The trade off was a deal struck between insurance companies and this administration. The basic premise was to force everyone onto the roles, essentially making the young pay for the chronic. Thus the can't be dumped and refused for pre-existing conditions. The fact that you support a program that you don't understand reveals your ignorance woody. Why am I not surprised?
The laughing liberal

United States

#271 Nov 19, 2013
Obama IS a rotting fiasco.

Always has been.

Always will be....
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#272 Nov 19, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>The medical industry is broken and the insurance industry has enough money to insure it stays broken. With people on the right doing nothing and obstructing the dems from doing something, why would they bother to change their ways? They won't. They know how stupid and clueless most Americans, like you, are.
What solutions do you have?
None.
Crickets.
Thank God the dems are in power. Between the republitards and the crooks running the medical industry, they are going to bankrupt us all (not including people who never, ever get sick. They are fine.)
lmao
How has the ACA prevented sky rocketing insurance premiums and medical care costs? It hasn't. If you would do some unbiased research, you will find that the ACA has created more financial burdens on the middle class and have actually striped people of their providers. How is this good? The republicans were against Odumbocare from the start because once it was passed they saw these issues were going to create major problems. I guess it took business minds, not socialistic community organizers to realize, money does make the world go around and doctors will not work for free.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#274 Nov 19, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
That's the point woody, as it stands now the insurers aren't being regulated. The trade off was a deal struck between insurance companies and this administration. The basic premise was to force everyone onto the roles, essentially making the young pay for the chronic. Thus the can't be dumped and refused for pre-existing conditions. The fact that you support a program that you don't understand reveals your ignorance woody. Why am I not surprised?
Well said. Did you see that even the Huffington Post is commenting on oscumma's dismal approval rating? Even the libs are beginning to have a tough time keeping the outrage out of the mainstream.
incredulous

Carmel, IN

#275 Nov 19, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
How has the ACA prevented sky rocketing insurance premiums and medical care costs? It hasn't. If you would do some unbiased research, you will find that the ACA has created more financial burdens on the middle class and have actually striped people of their providers. How is this good? The republicans were against Odumbocare from the start because once it was passed they saw these issues were going to create major problems. I guess it took business minds, not socialistic community organizers to realize, money does make the world go around and doctors will not work for free.
ACA has played a large role in this sputtering economy. Businesses are waiting it out and circling the wagons.
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#276 Nov 19, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text> ACA has played a large role in this sputtering economy. Businesses are waiting it out and circling the wagons.
Exactly that is why they pushed the employer mandate back, businesses are still reeling form the dismal economic climate that Odumbo has yet to really address. Bailouts and Wall Street stimulus can't fix the problems. It's like putting a bandaid on a sucking chest wound. Is this Oumbocare going to be the next housing crisis? Since it makes up 1/6th of our economy, it's going to require that individuals dump 1/4 to 1/3 of their monthly income into it to keep it afloat. Let's see, food or insurance, housing or insurance, auto or insurance, new I phone or insurance. Now which will win out?
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#277 Nov 19, 2013
incredulous wrote:
<quoted text>Well said. Did you see that even the Huffington Post is commenting on oscumma's dismal approval rating? Even the libs are beginning to have a tough time keeping the outrage out of the mainstream.
The media outlets have no choice but to finally admit Odumbo's colossal failure. They were able to hide is ineptness with other issues, BUT NOT THIS ONE. This is ODUMBO'S big steaming pile of fecal matter!
too much

Warren, MI

#278 Nov 19, 2013
x0x0x wrote:
<quoted text>You can't repeal a law without the President's signature. Congress doesn't have the 2/3 vote to override a veto so your little rant about a repeal proves just how stupid you are, zippy. You're as brain dead as Ted!
Enjoy your bliss.
Read.
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#280 Nov 20, 2013
How about the "3 year bailout" provision in Obamacare that this administration offered to the insurance companies if they don't turn a profit on Odumbocare? Ain't it great, we get to pay every which way from Sunday. Gotta guarantee those ground floor investments Odumbo, Pelosi, Reid and Soros are invested in. Bloody Hell!!!
spOko

Oakland, CA

#281 Nov 20, 2013
CBOW wrote:
How about the "3 year bailout" provision in Obamacare that this administration offered to the insurance companies if they don't turn a profit on Odumbocare? Ain't it great, we get to pay every which way from Sunday. Gotta guarantee those ground floor investments Odumbo, Pelosi, Reid and Soros are invested in. Bloody Hell!!!
An other one of the wningnutz diversion tactics, the provision is designed to prevent insurers from spiking premiums and provide stability during the first few years of the Obamacare exchanges.
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#282 Nov 20, 2013
spOko wrote:
<quoted text>
An other one of the wningnutz diversion tactics, the provision is designed to prevent insurers from spiking premiums and provide stability during the first few years of the Obamacare exchanges.
Aren't you libturds against the insurance companies turning a profit? Once again, if Odumbo wants it, it's okay with you. Sickening! Stability for the first few years of Odumbocare? LOL. U-huh, more like guaranteed returns on investments for the architects of Odumbocare. Get a clue!!!
spOko

Oakland, CA

#283 Nov 20, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Aren't you libturds against the insurance companies turning a profit? Once again, if Odumbo wants it, it's okay with you. Sickening! Stability for the first few years of Odumbocare? LOL. U-huh, more like guaranteed returns on investments for the architects of Odumbocare. Get a clue!!!
Back it up - blithering idiot!
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#284 Nov 20, 2013
spOko wrote:
<quoted text>
Back it up - blithering idiot!
If IT is such a wonderful plan, then why mandate it and BACK IT with tax payer dollars??????

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#285 Nov 20, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Aren't you libturds against the insurance companies turning a profit? Once again, if Odumbo wants it, it's okay with you. Sickening! Stability for the first few years of Odumbocare? LOL. U-huh, more like guaranteed returns on investments for the architects of Odumbocare. Get a clue!!!
Communist are against a profit system.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#286 Nov 21, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are saying you are okay with a premium increase to cover things that don't even apply to your gender or overall health condition? You're bloody stupid. Change for the better is great. The aca is NOT change for the better. Wake up!!!!
In most group policies a participant who doesn't benefit from all the coverages he may have still has to pay the premium of those base coverages in the plan to take advantage of the over all policy........ What's changed in America is the individual policies are now considered one group pool to benefit from the group discount.

how is this different?

This is not a difficult concept to follow.

There is a new standard for all Health Care policies sold in America from Jan 2014 onward.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#287 Nov 21, 2013
What are the sources of your research material that provided you insight to these things contained in your post below........ amazingly this is the very and only republican proposal they've had in 50 years.

How has ACA striped people of their providers? Who the insurance companies contracts with is of their discretion and not a function of ACA in any provision of the law.

Where did you read other wise? Same with the actual law, where did you read this law was not a Republican proposal?

I would like to read the same information you were privy too.
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
How has the ACA prevented sky rocketing insurance premiums and medical care costs? It hasn't. If you would do some unbiased research, you will find that the ACA has created more financial burdens on the middle class and have actually striped people of their providers. How is this good? The republicans were against Odumbocare from the start because once it was passed they saw these issues were going to create major problems. I guess it took business minds, not socialistic community organizers to realize, money does make the world go around and doctors will not work for free.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#288 Nov 21, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Communist are against a profit system.
Communist are also against profiteering corporations. Being that ACA is open to massive corporate participation to provide an assortment of health care insurance to the consumer ACA has to be something other than Government take over, or socialist/communist.

Seems reasonable that the only people who could be scared off by the calling ACA Communist or Government Take over are those who were equally stupified by the meaning of "Grandfathered".

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#289 Nov 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Communist are also against profiteering corporations. Being that ACA is open to massive corporate participation to provide an assortment of health care insurance to the consumer ACA has to be something other than Government take over, or socialist/communist.
Seems reasonable that the only people who could be scared off by the calling ACA Communist or Government Take over are those who were equally stupified by the meaning of "Grandfathered".
ACA is Socialist/Communist takeover of the Healthcare system as we know it and it is all about total centralized control by the US Federal Government.
CBOW

East Berlin, PA

#290 Nov 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
In most group policies a participant who doesn't benefit from all the coverages he may have still has to pay the premium of those base coverages in the plan to take advantage of the over all policy........ What's changed in America is the individual policies are now considered one group pool to benefit from the group discount.
how is this different?
This is not a difficult concept to follow.
There is a new standard for all Health Care policies sold in America from Jan 2014 onward.
If this were true that the ACA has provided this "group discount", then why did they not allow interstate commerce to provide competition? Some states only have two insurers, some only have one hospital participating in accepting Odumbocare. How is this an improvement over what was already in place?

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