How did America become so polarized?

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The election laid bare a dual - and dueling - nation, politically speaking, jaggedly split down the middle on the presidency and torn over much else.
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Pamela

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All that mumbo jumbo you spewed....that occured because of liberal left in congress. The liberal left is to blame. Barney Frank and a multitude more....they should be in jail.
You don't know anything about economics. None of you do. So I give out the information since I'm the only one who reads books and who looks into why my country collapsed when Bush was in office. I would think people would have gone and investigated why their nation collapsed in 2008, maybe looked into some documentaries, maybe gone and gotten some current books from the library and looked into things - like the role of the Fed, like globalization, like the U.S. relationship to China. The information I gave out comes from Ron Paul and Peter Schiff's books. They are top, top, economists, they are Libertarians, they are NOT liberals. So I suggest others go and look and research and read and find out real things. Just saying the stuff from Fox about just blame one party and all will be well, and just insulting me is not going to help any of you one bit.

The repubs are now asking for cuts to SS and Medicare and backing an amnesty. LIke I said in here for years, and like Ron Paul says, both parties are totally corrupt and total losers.

Both parties and MSNBC and Fox have been talking about spending cuts for ten years now. Have we had one spending cut in ten years? Have they stopped borrowing $1 trillion a year in the last ten years, have they stopped doing so yet?? No. Not one thing has ever changed nor been done. And that is exactly what Ron Paul said - both parties spend and spend, that's what they are doing.

I don't think you calling Austerian economics mumbo jumbo makes you look very good neither does the linear thinking, the one line solution about the Dems did it all. Really? That's all you got?
Pamela

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Peter Schiff is correct when he says that homes will no longer be a thing that goes up in value that people can count on as an investment. People should read his books and read Ron Paul's books too, especially "End The Fed." The thing is if you have no GDP growth and stagnant wages for 30 years, no, you can't have the home prices go up. If wages are the same, why would homes be worth more if no one can pay more for them? If you have high unemployment, you have low demand for home loans, so you have few buyers, so no, the home prices will not go way up again.

And imagine if half the country is retired people on the government and half Mexicans and blacks on welfare. How do home prices go up with no new home buyers and no one working, no wages? They don't.
Pamela

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Also we were at peak oil in 2008, which is why Bush invaded Iraq, to secure some OPEC oil for the major oil companies because they have NO oil reserves and would have went out of business had Bush not invaded Iraq for them.

Oil sits at $100 a barrel in a worldwide recession, and will go back up to $150 a barrel the minute any country tries to grow its GDP, so no, there is no more $20 a barrel oil, so cheap oil is gone. So there is not going to be any big GDP growth in the U.S. ever again nor anywhere else. This is the end of capitalist growth because of the end of cheap oil. So, here again, no GDP growth, the prices of homes will not go up. And we won't even be able to pay the interst on the debt much longer. It's over $450 billion a year now, and with no more cheap oil and no big GDP growth ever again, we are going to default and homes will be worth even less once we default on our debt cause then you have a country doing austerity measures which srinks the GDP even more. All that is left is collapse and collapse of the dollar and lower home prices in a collapsed country.
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Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>You don't know anything about economics. None of you do. So I give out the information since I'm the only one who reads books and who looks into why my country collapsed when Bush was in office.
Very rude, I would have read what you had to say if you had not been so rude. Maybe read some books on that.

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Canon wrote:
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You've indicated by your comment...."Or are you a frightwing birther nut?" that you are not interested in a real conversation only in hateful bashing.
And you indicated you are an intolerant 'christian' by not addressing the question. You are nothing but a buybull thumping hypocrite.
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<quoted text>And you indicated you are an intolerant 'christian' by not addressing the question. You are nothing but a buybull thumping hypocrite.
You keep proving my point...over and over again. Grow up.
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Very rude, I would have read what you had to say if you had not been so rude. Maybe read some books on that.
typical tea party nut who knows NOTHING, has a super low IQ, is as mature as a 5 year old and insults everyone. Same old tea party games.
Pamela

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Well then he needs to go counsel county property assessors that keep inflating assessed values to get the property taxes increased every year. Just can't have it both ways. If you want to sell a property then it's not worth anything, but if you own it then the govt says it's worth a lot and ratchet up your taxes. I swear the housing markets are mirroring used car lots nowdays.
It's horrible. Obamacare taxes anyone who sells their house, and the new capital gains tax will be double what it is now, so if you make money when you sell your house, if you sell it for more than you paid for it, that's considered capital gains and will be taxed at 32 percent, and then they raise the property taxes to pay for the blacks' schools because the blacks live on Section 8 and pay no taxes, so they don't pay one thing for their public schools. Then, if you were going to inherit your family's home or business, now Obama says he will only let you have $1 million and then he takes 55 percent of the rest of it, but, people who are just on Medicaid have used up a lot more than $1 million in free health care if they get in a bad accident or get cancer, and blacks us up a lot more than $1 million in tax money being on 5-6 welfare programs from birth to death. Unless you have at least $10 mil. you might as well go on Medicaid and on full welfare. It no longer pays to try to have one thing or to pay for anything yourself. Only billionaires can afford it.
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Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>It's horrible. Obamacare taxes anyone who sells their house, and the new capital gains tax will be double what it is now, so if you make money when you sell your house, if you sell it for more than you paid for it, that's considered capital gains and will be taxed at 32 percent, and then they raise the property taxes to pay for the blacks' schools because the blacks live on Section 8 and pay no taxes, so they don't pay one thing for their public schools. Then, if you were going to inherit your family's home or business, now Obama says he will only let you have $1 million and then he takes 55 percent of the rest of it, but, people who are just on Medicaid have used up a lot more than $1 million in free health care if they get in a bad accident or get cancer, and blacks us up a lot more than $1 million in tax money being on 5-6 welfare programs from birth to death. Unless you have at least $10 mil. you might as well go on Medicaid and on full welfare. It no longer pays to try to have one thing or to pay for anything yourself. Only billionaires can afford it.
If what you wrote is true, the real housing values are going down so many people will not be charged from that angle, however if we keep printing money in the way we are, the price of homes may explode through high or hyper inflationary pressures. Then you lose two ways. Because inflation is an evil tax politicians use to populations in human history often impoverishing many while keeping their power. As the older generation dies off and the boomers retire they will end up with these homes as part of their inheritance and will be socked big time as they also try to get rid of their own homes.
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<quoted text> If what you wrote is true, the real housing values are going down so many people will not be charged from that angle, however if we keep printing money in the way we are, the price of homes may explode through high or hyper inflationary pressures. Then you lose two ways. Because inflation is an evil tax politicians use to populations in human history often impoverishing many while keeping their power. As the older generation dies off and the boomers retire they will end up with these homes as part of their inheritance and will be socked big time as they also try to get rid of their own homes.
If they buy a home of equal or more value, they can avoid paying the capital gains tax. IN other words, let's say a person paid $50K for their house in the 1970s, and today it is worth $100K and they sell it. If they don't buy another house, they get hit with the new capital gain tax rate, if they buy a house for $110K, they avoid the tax. Also, next year the death tax goes up from zero percent under Bush to 55 percent under Obama. He takes more than 50 percent of inheritences. So if you inherit a home and money, life insurance, you could end up losing a lot of it in taxes, and all this is so that most all of the Mexicans and blacks can continue to be on welfare and so that those who work for the government can rake in millions in big pensions over their retired lives. Soon they won't have anyone left to take money from to hand out.
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Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>If they buy a home of equal or more value, they can avoid paying the capital gains tax. IN other words, let's say a person paid $50K for their house in the 1970s, and today it is worth $100K and they sell it. If they don't buy another house, they get hit with the new capital gain tax rate, if they buy a house for $110K, they avoid the tax. Also, next year the death tax goes up from zero percent under Bush to 55 percent under Obama. He takes more than 50 percent of inheritences. So if you inherit a home and money, life insurance, you could end up losing a lot of it in taxes, and all this is so that most all of the Mexicans and blacks can continue to be on welfare and so that those who work for the government can rake in millions in big pensions over their retired lives. Soon they won't have anyone left to take money from to hand out.
Hillary has said many times..."Each according to need". Maybe this part of the grand scheme. I always try to believe in every election that we have real ideas from both sides. It always ends up a screwing one way or the other and then I believe we don't control our destinies and there are others in the shadows pulling the strings. Hence I gravitated to Ron Paul but he was marginalized and it is easy to do that to anyone.
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<quoted text> Hillary has said many times..."Each according to need". Maybe this part of the grand scheme. I always try to believe in every election that we have real ideas from both sides. It always ends up a screwing one way or the other and then I believe we don't control our destinies and there are others in the shadows pulling the strings. Hence I gravitated to Ron Paul but he was marginalized and it is easy to do that to anyone.
Exactly. Ron Paul would have ended welfare by ending income taxes altogether. they should just end welfare, period, end the entitlements quickly. End all the programs that give people money and government health care because otherwise people will just keep voting for whichever party they think will give them the government money, and we borrow and borrow to give everyone money and then the Dems are desperate now because their programs are all bankrupt, so then they raise and raise taxes and come up with new taxes, and eventually they will make a run on the banks and take everyone's money. And then it all goes under and we like Greece, and that will happen during Obama's term, IMO. This is what they do in CA. It's bankrupt so then they come up with last ditch attemps to save the state with new taxes and higher taxes and then it all collapses. In tht meantime the decent people lose everything. Today we pay zero interest on money in the bank. Imagine that. It was always anywhere from 5-10 percent interest on money in the bank, now the fed has it at zero, you earn zero on your money in the bank just to keep inflation down. It's sick stuff.
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Other countries use to envy America, not any longer.
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Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>typical tea party nut who knows NOTHING, has a super low IQ, is as mature as a 5 year old and insults everyone. Same old tea party games.
Let's see, you start insulting me. I wasn't even speaking to you until you did so. Really, go read up on manners.

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Canon wrote:
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You keep proving my point...over and over again. Grow up.
You just proved my point. You are totally intolerant of anyone that isn't a 'christian'. You're a typicical buybull thumping intolerant hypocrite.

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<quoted text> If what you wrote is true, the real housing values are going down so many people will not be charged from that angle, however if we keep printing money in the way we are, the price of homes may explode through high or hyper inflationary pressures. Then you lose two ways. Because inflation is an evil tax politicians use to populations in human history often impoverishing many while keeping their power. As the older generation dies off and the boomers retire they will end up with these homes as part of their inheritance and will be socked big time as they also try to get rid of their own homes.
Drivel.
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Capital gains tax is for people that do not live in the home they are selling. This taxes people that use the sale of homes as a business. As long as you live in the property as a primary residence or two or more years, there are no capital gains to be paid. For example, you pay taxes on goods and services because a profit is being made for that speific reason. A home is a purchase that can be invested in by the buyer and can be sold for more than the selling price; as long as it meets the two stipulations I mentioned above. Do you pay capital gains on vehicles? NO. Why: because there is not enough money difference for the gov to get their hands on.
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<quoted text> If what you wrote is true, the real housing values are going down so many people will not be charged from that angle, however if we keep printing money in the way we are, the price of homes may explode through high or hyper inflationary pressures. Then you lose two ways. Because inflation is an evil tax politicians use to populations in human history often impoverishing many while keeping their power. As the older generation dies off and the boomers retire they will end up with these homes as part of their inheritance and will be socked big time as they also try to get rid of their own homes.
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It is wise for everyone to leave this out when discussing politics. This is the very reason we have seperation of church and State. Yes, State should be capitalized.
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Dec 25, 2012
 
Limitations on Exemptions
Secondly, there is no limit on the number of times you can utilize the tax exemption in a home sale. For the most part, every time you make a profit under $250,000 (or $500,000, depending on your marital status), you can keep the profits tax-free. This might have you running to the nearest bank to apply for loans to purchase multiple real-estate properties, but there is a catch. The tax break only applies to your primary residence. Houses or properties owned solely for investment purposes are still subject to the usual capital gains tax rules. In addition, there is a two-year minimum gap required for you to be eligible for the tax exemption, even in qualifying home sales.

Read more: Capital Gains Laws in Real Estate | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6049786_capital-gain...
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Capital gains tax is for people that do not live in the home they are selling. This taxes people that use the sale of homes as a business. As long as you live in the property as a primary residence or two or more years, there are no capital gains to be paid. For example, you pay taxes on goods and services because a profit is being made for that speific reason. A home is a purchase that can be invested in by the buyer and can be sold for more than the selling price; as long as it meets the two stipulations I mentioned above. Do you pay capital gains on vehicles? NO. Why: because there is not enough money difference for the gov to get their hands on.
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The far right has been attacking freedom and equality for so long that us normal USA citizens finnaly rose up and are fighting back.

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