Obama: Pot is not more dangerous than...

Obama: Pot is not more dangerous than alcohol

There are 167 comments on the Detroit News story from Jan 19, 2014, titled Obama: Pot is not more dangerous than alcohol. In it, Detroit News reports that:

President Obama's administration has given states permission to experiment with marijuana regulation, and laws recently passed in Colorado and Washington legalizing marijuana recently went into effect.

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tellsumbodywhoca res

Lindfield, Australia

#105 Jan 21, 2014
canser suxs wrote:
Cord....What is the problem? Yes fact Marijuana is much safer then alcohol in fact Marijuana is safer then most meds you can buy over the counter.
NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ILLEGAL....
Eightman.......In a war torn region in a dangerous nation 4 people died and you cream and howl and blame Obama....
In 2001 THOUSANDS DIED ON USA SOIL AND YOU BOWED AND WORSHIPED YOUR GOD BUSH AND BLAMED THOSE WHO DID IT..
What a turd. Oh and even if the very second that attack started if we had sent troops there that second they would have got there way to late...Oh and the embassy there had turned down prior to attack more security... SO SHUT THE HECK UP AND DROP IT.
It's not safer than alcohol. From what I've witnessed from working in medical/surgical/emergency wards over the years, it is about on a par.

I've seen victims of accidents under the influence of alcohol, but prior to leaving the health industry, I began to see more victims of accidents that occurred while the patient was stoned.
I also saw more moody, irritable and belligerently aggressive behaviour from pot users increase as well. Episodes of such behaviours were more explosive from those under the influence of alcohol, where as pot users seemed to have that slow burning fuse before physical /verbal aggression began.

I certainly saw far more alarming personality and mood swings in pot users, that seemed to manifest in an underlying irritability leading towards raw anger towards nursing staff. What goes up, must come down. I definitely have seen schizophrenic behaviours being triggered and exacerbated by pot.

To be fair, I also have observed pot to be used medicinally for sufferers of MS; Cancer; Arthritis and atypical neuralgia with great success. The benefits should outweigh potential side effects.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#106 Jan 21, 2014
canser suxs wrote:
<quoted text>
No I am a semi-pro body builder. I can bench press close to 500lbs and could snap most men in two easy. I also own many guns and know how to use them..So yea when you military militia thugs try to take over WE THE PEOPLES nation we will stop you fast.
Yeah, I am a militia thug. Yeah, thats the ticket. There are many liars on these threads. When times get bad enough, it won't be mano-mano. The guns are being purchased for defense. Demographics tell us all where the real thugs will come from. People will form new alliances and bullcrap won't be part of the itinerary. I would hope that people living in diverse areas get along and form alliances to defend their neighborhoods from the children of gaia who will be leaving the urban areas like the walking dead after the plague. Yeah, internet tough typing means nothing. Most people are not warriors at this point. Fight or flight is the reality with the governments turning a blind eye to most vicious racial crimes as well as crimes by government employees. So lighten up, Francis....
alan

Livonia, LA

#107 Jan 21, 2014
they have tests to see if youre drunk!do they have a test to see if youre stoned?if someone is killed in a car wreck can they tell if a person is high?until a test is made for mary jane its not an admissible thing to be used in court?so your kid is killed in a traffic accident by someone stoned?bottom line is you cant prove it ?
Pistachio Disguisey

Sparta, NJ

#108 Jan 21, 2014
alan wrote:
they have tests to see if youre drunk!do they have a test to see if youre stoned?if someone is killed in a car wreck can they tell if a person is high?until a test is made for mary jane its not an admissible thing to be used in court?so your kid is killed in a traffic accident by someone stoned?bottom line is you cant prove it ?
http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2013/12/31/l...

http://drugdrive.direct.gov.uk/testfordrugs.s...

http://blog.sfgate.com/smellthetruth/2013/10/...
Pistachio Disguisey

Sparta, NJ

#109 Jan 21, 2014
rfirma1 wrote:
<quoted text>
oh yeah....and let me tell you..........I stay up at nights hoping we finally agree on something.......
Not me.-Theres strains of cannabis that can help you with that problem. IJS
I sleep well knowing theres ppl like you out there protecting me from those dangerous pot users.
Thank you btw.
Rambeaux

Allentown, PA

#110 Jan 21, 2014
It has been proven by medical researchers that moderate amounts of alcoholic beverages can actually be beneficial to one's health.
angel

Boise, ID

#111 Jan 22, 2014
Eighthman wrote:
Pot may not be worse than alcohol but Benghazi is sure worse than Watergate.
Don't you think?
No. And nobody else( besides Brainwashed Fox Slaves that is) does either.
I mean I dont suppose you have EVIDENCE that would contradict the Benghazi report do you?
No?
Didnt think so.Lmao!
angel

Boise, ID

#112 Jan 22, 2014
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah, I am a militia thug. Yeah, thats the ticket. There are many liars on these threads. When times get bad enough, it won't be mano-mano. The guns are being purchased for defense. Demographics tell us all where the real thugs will come from. People will form new alliances and bullcrap won't be part of the itinerary. I would hope that people living in diverse areas get along and form alliances to defend their neighborhoods from the children of gaia who will be leaving the urban areas like the walking dead after the plague. Yeah, internet tough typing means nothing. Most people are not warriors at this point. Fight or flight is the reality with the governments turning a blind eye to most vicious racial crimes as well as crimes by government employees. So lighten up, Francis....
*Yawn* Another racist wannabe Klan boy with the ever popular "Walking Dead" stroke fantasy scenario with Minorities standing in for the Zombie Hordes.
Being able to indulge such Puerile Juvenile Sickness is whats really behind the Right's shrill 2nd Amendment stance anyway.
Teatards are a Joke.
angel

Boise, ID

#113 Jan 22, 2014
tellsumbodywhocares wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not safer than alcohol. From what I've witnessed from working in medical/surgical/emergency wards over the years, it is about on a par.
I've seen victims of accidents under the influence of alcohol, but prior to leaving the health industry, I began to see more victims of accidents that occurred while the patient was stoned.
I also saw more moody, irritable and belligerently aggressive behaviour from pot users increase as well. Episodes of such behaviours were more explosive from those under the influence of alcohol, where as pot users seemed to have that slow burning fuse before physical /verbal aggression began.
I certainly saw far more alarming personality and mood swings in pot users, that seemed to manifest in an underlying irritability leading towards raw anger towards nursing staff. What goes up, must come down. I definitely have seen schizophrenic behaviours being triggered and exacerbated by pot.
To be fair, I also have observed pot to be used medicinally for sufferers of MS; Cancer; Arthritis and atypical neuralgia with great success. The benefits should outweigh potential side effects.
Yeah Pot smokers are more prone to 'moody aggressive behavior' then Jack Daniels and Cheap Beer afficianados.
Right.
What a crock.
angel

Boise, ID

#114 Jan 22, 2014
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> I don't have to anything. It is here and getting worse. What i am doing is attempting to block the ugliness you accuse me of. Once the people holding arms stop their graps, the party is over. To me there are two options. Turn on the internet and watch the abuses by our government people on its citizens. Not a word from you. I tell you it is going to be worse and you call me a traitor. I tell you if I had a choice, i would take a military takeover then a civilian police state as an option of the two and you call me a traitor. Are you stopping this? Are you getting the politicians to get rid of Homeland Security, the TSA, the martial law edicts, the NSA , the patriot acts and so much more? Of course you are not. But toking will make you forget what is here and growing. Perhaps some members of your family will be targeted by the new and more powerful government coming on line and change your views. Military and discipline I understand more then civilian whorism. Tell me why we are not becoming a police state. I know. it is a joke to you. So Saul Alinsky like. But then thats what it has been about for decades hasn't it?
Big Surprise.Most Teatards would LOVE a Police State administrated by the Filthy Rich.
Morons.
angel

Boise, ID

#115 Jan 22, 2014
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> I am not a redneck. you are a shill. Probably under another name. I believe we are headed towards total tyranny. There will be no freedoms as you spout. We are losing them as you talk it. If giving the choice I want no corrupted politician who is beholden to others and has no scruples at all as a demogue leader. I would prefer a military man who at least earned his stripes moving up the ladder in a military takeover. Getting rid of the congress, the executive office and the supreme court until we prove we are adults again. Discipline will be the rule of the land following ways that were proven to keep cultures going over thousands of years. You see, we failed the way you spout. Sounds good. Theory is great. People act like turds when they get it and destroy everything blaming all who caused their troubles. We end up beingtaxed to the hilt for irresponsible actions and it is to late. One other thing. The neo con counties in repub areas have turned man amen into criminals. There will be payback as things get worse.
Oh man. Dude, you SERIOUSLY need to take FOX off 24 hour channel lock, stick your head in a bucket of cold water and go outside for a walk.LMAO!
tellsumbodywhoca res

Australia

#116 Jan 22, 2014
angel wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah Pot smokers are more prone to 'moody aggressive behavior' then Jack Daniels and Cheap Beer afficianados.
Right.
What a crock.
More- as in, an increase in patients coming in under the influence of pot that displayed moody aggressive behaviour.
The fact is as the use of pot becomes more mainstream and acceptable to use over time, that as a health worker, I was in a position to observe and document holisitic changes within patients.

I have not said one is worse than the other, merely that both alcohol and pot can both have adverse effects in patients.
The difference I noted were belligerent drunks became better as they sobered, generally speaking, whereas pot users became more irritable and prone to aggressive behaviours as the effects of the drug wore off. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.

With both, the worse I experience was pre-operatively when both alcohol and drugs were prohibited prior to surgery, the effects of withdrawal were marked in both.

I have no vested interest in either for or against pot use personally. Like alcohol, I would say as long as people make an informed decision and have insight into the potential adverse outcomes that abuse or chronic long term use of either may have, then it's horses for courses as far as I'm concerned.
tellsumbodywhoca res

Australia

#117 Jan 22, 2014
alan wrote:
they have tests to see if youre drunk!do they have a test to see if youre stoned?if someone is killed in a car wreck can they tell if a person is high?until a test is made for mary jane its not an admissible thing to be used in court?so your kid is killed in a traffic accident by someone stoned?bottom line is you cant prove it ?
In Australia they are doing random drug testing of drivers of vehicles, just the same as testing for alcohol.
Penalties vary state to state. From memory I think you cannot drive for 72hours legally after using pot, not sure about other drugs.
angel

Boise, ID

#118 Jan 22, 2014
tellsumbodywhocares wrote:
<quoted text>
More- as in, an increase in patients coming in under the influence of pot that displayed moody aggressive behaviour.
The fact is as the use of pot becomes more mainstream and acceptable to use over time, that as a health worker, I was in a position to observe and document holisitic changes within patients.
I have not said one is worse than the other, merely that both alcohol and pot can both have adverse effects in patients.
The difference I noted were belligerent drunks became better as they sobered, generally speaking, whereas pot users became more irritable and prone to aggressive behaviours as the effects of the drug wore off. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.
With both, the worse I experience was pre-operatively when both alcohol and drugs were prohibited prior to surgery, the effects of withdrawal were marked in both.
I have no vested interest in either for or against pot use personally. Like alcohol, I would say as long as people make an informed decision and have insight into the potential adverse outcomes that abuse or chronic long term use of either may have, then it's horses for courses as far as I'm concerned.
I get you,thanks for clarifying.
Im a Healthcare worker too but here in Idaho most of the Bad Stuff we see is Alchohol and Meth as the main catalyst for mayhem almost exclusively.
But yeah folks that are prone to behave irresponsbly with booze will with pot too im sure.
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#120 Jan 22, 2014
It is amazing the lengths of rationalization to which pot heads will go to justify their use of a proven reality altering drug, that is ten times more potent through the genetic alterations done to it since Obama was a pot head conspirator Communist also doing PCP, so no one could tell which did the mental damage.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#121 Jan 22, 2014
angel wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh man. Dude, you SERIOUSLY need to take FOX off 24 hour channel lock, stick your head in a bucket of cold water and go outside for a walk.LMAO!
Dude, iIdon't watch Fox you idiot. Now get rid of all of the police state laws and organizations we have and I will start to agree with you agenda. I watch the old shows mostly for entertainment. The difference is, I have to pay a cable bill to receive the channels. You know, part of being a citizen is being astute about our freedoms. You ain't. But if being a toker, a joker, a midnight smoker is your cup of prune juice, who am I to get in your way. Remember, at some point many people like me will get tired of spouting freedom and the game will be over as the totalitarian rule will be put on speed dial. Useless peons like yourself never change in history. People love to be told what to do. But a lot of baggage comes with it.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#122 Jan 22, 2014
angel wrote:
<quoted text>
Big Surprise.Most Teatards would LOVE a Police State administrated by the Filthy Rich.
Morons.
Again, when the tea party started it had stated goals. But you have been watching the 99% progressive controlled media/entertainment/sport/spor ts entertainment television/movies/newspapers/m agazines/even radio and more agenda driven dogma that has moved us from number one in everything in the world to double digits in most issuesthat keep nations relevant. Where are the progressive politicians at eliminating these evil organizations? Look how many Americans are willing to work for them. For me it is hard to trust people who say one thing and do another. Perhaps you can get all of the politicians and non elected officials of every stripe to explain these inconsistencies. If I go deeper i will be branded a hater by the power elite. But you know. Oh yes you do...
angel

Boise, ID

#123 Jan 22, 2014
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Dude, iIdon't watch Fox you idiot. Now get rid of all of the police state laws and organizations we have and I will start to agree with you agenda. I watch the old shows mostly for entertainment. The difference is, I have to pay a cable bill to receive the channels. You know, part of being a citizen is being astute about our freedoms. You ain't. But if being a toker, a joker, a midnight smoker is your cup of prune juice, who am I to get in your way. Remember, at some point many people like me will get tired of spouting freedom and the game will be over as the totalitarian rule will be put on speed dial. Useless peons like yourself never change in history. People love to be told what to do. But a lot of baggage comes with it.
Well we have something in common then:neither of us watch Fox and we both like the old shows.
Seriously though I know alot of people have concerns about teh powerful elite running this country for you its the Government for others its the Elite Mega Weathy(a handful of which control almost everything we read in the paper to TV to radio ) but dont let it ruin your enjoyment of life.
Keep informed. Vote
And as Naive as I suppose it sounds I beleive most Americans are Good People and will set the course straight if this Nation goes to far off the Rails in either direction.
There are alot of folks out there on both sides crying doom and disaster and most of them have some sort of vested interest on the outcome of how many Americans they can scare or lie to.
I dont know where anyone got the idea that Liberals dont value their freedom.
Im not a fan of the Fed Govt for the simple reason its made up of political hacks who like any bureaucrats want to perpetuate their burueacracy.
But I dont lay awake nights worrying about them either.
We have a Democracy for all its faults is heads and shoulders above anything else on the planet.
There are folks all over the world who would laugh at the way the Right throws around the word 'Tyranny'.
They could tell you what tyranny is REALLY like first hand.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#124 Jan 22, 2014
angel wrote:
<quoted text>Well we have something in common then:neither of us watch Fox and we both like the old shows.
Seriously though I know alot of people have concerns about teh powerful elite running this country for you its the Government for others its the Elite Mega Weathy(a handful of which control almost everything we read in the paper to TV to radio ) but dont let it ruin your enjoyment of life.
Keep informed. Vote
And as Naive as I suppose it sounds I beleive most Americans are Good People and will set the course straight if this Nation goes to far off the Rails in either direction.
There are alot of folks out there on both sides crying doom and disaster and most of them have some sort of vested interest on the outcome of how many Americans they can scare or lie to.
I dont know where anyone got the idea that Liberals dont value their freedom.
Im not a fan of the Fed Govt for the simple reason its made up of political hacks who like any bureaucrats want to perpetuate their burueacracy.
But I dont lay awake nights worrying about them either.
We have a Democracy for all its faults is heads and shoulders above anything else on the planet.
There are folks all over the world who would laugh at the way the Right throws around the word 'Tyranny'.
They could tell you what tyranny is REALLY like first hand.
You can see the tyranny in how citizens are treated by government. Law enforcement has become abusive to many citizens and they often get away with it. All of those laws enacted and of course are not/were not to be used against citizens is a sham. They will and are. The left has not done a damn thing to eliminate any of those laws and departments enacted and even expanded on them. A malaise is forming in many regions of America. More and more people don't care anymore. A game of collecting is becoming the new normal and if not for people who have some religious/moral guilt it would be much worse. The law enforcement abuses can be anywhere. Experienced it myself here in central Florida in a repub dominated but neo con county. Many of these counties have turned men into criminals or helped them along in that direction for profits. Courthouses have become like wal marts and the drug issue is part of it. Men get destroyed for this. One day to survive many will take the law into their own hands as they will have no choice. the sad thing is many government officials and law enforcement people are not that pristine in their living also. So you see my beef is not just against progressive agendas without responsibility added to them. It tilts that way because not one progressive will clean up their messes they created and eliminate the movement to a totalitarian state.

Since: Jan 14

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#125 Jan 22, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
This insane Presidential influence compares with another Commie Democrat, William Clinton, when he encouraged young pre-teen and teen girls to perform fellatio on lines of sports players at their schools.
Democrats are such great role models!
HAHAHAHAHA, This is for sure the funniest stuff I have ever read. Especially Mr.CornWain"s comments. HAHAHAHAH. I have never heard more crazy outbursts of mentally ill blurred and slurred delusional "speech". You ARE mentally ill, right??? Please enlighten us which meds you are on, so it will be easier to understand why and how you think the way you do. Please believe, it is ok to be mental, not only ganja punker rock kids are, you know. HAHAHAHAH.
"Homosexuals", and I say no more, I never bothered seeing that movie "Reefermadness", but I guess it is along the same lines. If I may say so, and I do, cause of the freedom of speech and all, I think , actually I KNOW, allot of people would have been better off if they had been growing up taking massive amounts of drugs, just as a daily routine. Especially Mr.CornBread here, He is obviously a total schizo, and also I suspect a danger to those around him, if he hadnt been hidden behind a screen. But its Ok, behind there your a funny guy, sure thing. Keep rocking Mr.CornBread.

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