Profile of a Pedophile: Does Michael ...

Profile of a Pedophile: Does Michael Jackson fit?

There are 64805 comments on the crime.about.com story from Dec 9, 2008, titled Profile of a Pedophile: Does Michael Jackson fit?. In it, crime.about.com reports that:

Pedophiles can be anyone -- old or young, rich or poor, educated or uneducated, non-professional or professional, and of any race. However, pedophiles often demonstrate similar characteristics, but these are merely indicators and it should not be assumed that individuals with these characteristics are pedophiles. But knowledge of these characteristics coupled with questionable behavior can be used as an alert that someone may be a pedophile.

[The part about Stockholm Syndrome is VERY interesting indeed... -ek.]

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Since: May 12

Location hidden

#66809 Sep 18, 2013
MJFRIEND wrote:
To eric. What your basically saying is , if michael was a priest and lived a life for god, and spoke articulately , and never lied , you would have given him the benifit of the doubt , or if he was a married man , with children and a respected coach who never lied, you would have given him the benifit of the doubt. TWO examples of how you cannot judge a book by its cover. I know in the past there were a few hells angels accused of things they did not do. There are innocent men put away for years for rape and set free after new dna testing.....mostly black men. There are many innocent people accused of things because they are different or do not fit societies norms.. Because they are outcasts....michael jackson reigned on the stage....but he did not fit into society ....he was different.. This was his "strangeness" he lived with the cascios in n j to "see" how "real" people live. HE had no practice living in the real world with real people.
Very good post. This is why he was so misunderstood....
DMAN

Aurora, CO

#66810 Sep 18, 2013
Does Michael fit halle mounds??????

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#66812 Sep 18, 2013
MJFRIEND wrote:
TO Eric michael was a very nice person. NO , he never said anything intentionally to hurt anyone, if he did he didnt mean to . He said very little to the medis regarding surgeries to prevent misquoting Yes , michael got angry but he never yelled , he threw things out of frustration, or he would break things. NO , he was not a saint. HE was a target for mean people because he did not know how to relate to people or spot trouble. He was a target just like that retarded man you claim you helped when he was being bullied. Michael is not unlike this vulnurable man you claim you protected from harm . Which is why I dont believe your "story" cause now michael is the helpless man who cannot speak admidst all this bullying , and I see no understanding on your part. IF you truly defended this retarded man, you would at least show you were " on the fence " about jackson.
Its insulting to compare MJ to those who genuinely suffer from mistreatment and targeting.

MJ was constantly praised and treated like royalty by most people around him, he was blindly defended endlessly by MJ fans and others. MJ did not have to sleep with boys, he did not have to involve himself in behaviour that would make people question him. He chose to behave that way, and suffered the consequences.

Even if MJ did not molest those boys, he behaved selfishly and inappropriately just so he can get his own way. His kids, and some of the boys he slept with had to suffer along the way. If he had an ounce of dignity and sense, he would have kept the identity of those boys private... A truly despicable man
persephone

Sunnyvale, CA

#66813 Sep 18, 2013
Pishpash1234 wrote:
<quoted text>
Its insulting to compare MJ to those who genuinely suffer from mistreatment and targeting.
MJ was constantly praised and treated like royalty by most people around him, he was blindly defended endlessly by MJ fans and others. MJ did not have to sleep with boys, he did not have to involve himself in behaviour that would make people question him. He chose to behave that way, and suffered the consequences.
Even if MJ did not molest those boys, he behaved selfishly and inappropriately just so he can get his own way. His kids, and some of the boys he slept with had to suffer along the way. If he had an ounce of dignity and sense, he would have kept the identity of those boys private... A truly despicable man
It wasn't his responsibility to keep anyone's identity private.

Why was Janet Arvizo's identity so carefully protected and concealed throughout the trial? She wasn't a minor, nor was she a 'victim'; yet her lying face never was shown anywhere in the media.
persephone

Sunnyvale, CA

#66814 Sep 18, 2013
Pishpash1234 wrote:
<quoted text>
I really do struggle how you are unable to see the connection between MJ's behavior traits and the;
- Sleepovers, Allegations, witnesses, pay offs, child erotica, photographs, semen stains, description, only ''boy'' special friends, showing boys diseased genitals, offering boys wine, inviting boys in the middle of the night and many more.
Why are you unable to connect the dots with those things? Instead of looking at them individually, look at them like JIGSAW PUZZLE. Each piece of creates a clearer picture.
It's beyond me why you are unable to see that such 'victims' fabricated such molestation stories specifically for the purpose of getting money. Why do you condemn MJ for capitulating to a civil settlement which was the motive all along?

And now, after all these years, here's WR, and what is he doing? Why, he's looking for money!

It isn't MJ supporters who are hopelessly blind and refuse to see the truth. It's you.

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#66815 Sep 18, 2013
persephone wrote:
<quoted text> It's beyond me why you are unable to see that such 'victims' fabricated such molestation stories specifically for the purpose of getting money.
What do you base this on? I gave you a whole list of reasons to why I think MJ molested those boys.. Your main basis for believing MJ is innocent is because of his celebrity status. For you to not question one part of his behaviour and not even admit that he did behave inappropriately only reinforces my previous point.
persephone wrote:
<quoted text>And now, after all these years, here's WR, and what is he doing? Why, he's looking for money!
Did Terry George ask for money? Did Gavin ask for money? Lets not forget the families Jimmy Savile paid off aswell, are those families lying?

And according to sources allegedly closely connected to the Jackson
has said that Wade is not asking for much money, just reimbursement for his therapy sessions, estimated $15,000. Whether this is true, I dunno..

But regardless, it is not uncommon for abused family victims to accept money

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#66816 Sep 18, 2013
persephone wrote:
<quoted text> It's beyond me why you are unable to see that such 'victims' fabricated such molestation stories specifically for the purpose of getting money. Why do you condemn MJ for capitulating to a civil settlement which was the motive all along?
And now, after all these years, here's WR, and what is he doing? Why, he's looking for money!
It isn't MJ supporters who are hopelessly blind and refuse to see the truth. It's you.
They will never see the truth because they do not want to give up their hating an innocent man.
John

Fairfax, VA

#66817 Sep 18, 2013
How in the hell would anyone know what MJ did ??.....besides he's dead so who cares ??
ERIC CARTMAN

Bothell, WA

#66818 Sep 18, 2013
Len is Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't insult Eric Cartman or anyone else on this forum who recognizes Michael was a pedophile. It's not a question of judging a book by its cover. It's a matter of reading legal documents and accepting the fact they reveal Michael's name was really Pedo Pan. He was just as sick as the preists and the football coach of which you speak.
gee thanks
ERIC CARTMAN

Bothell, WA

#66819 Sep 18, 2013
MJFRIEND wrote:
To eric. What your basically saying is , if michael was a priest and lived a life for god, and spoke articulately , and never lied , you would have given him the benifit of the doubt , or if he was a married man , with children and a respected coach who never lied, you would have given him the benifit of the doubt. TWO examples of how you cannot judge a book by its cover. I know in the past there were a few hells angels accused of things they did not do. There are innocent men put away for years for rape and set free after new dna testing.....mostly black men. There are many innocent people accused of things because they are different or do not fit societies norms.. Because they are outcasts....michael jackson reigned on the stage....but he did not fit into society ....he was different.. This was his "strangeness" he lived with the cascios in n j to "see" how "real" people live. HE had no practice living in the real world with real people.
gee no practice living with real people. That's odd. Oprah. Bill gates. Charlie sheen. The osmonds. Lindsay lohan or jack nicholson all don't seem to have that problem. So that's the excuse. He was different. Well I have news for u. He wasn't.
ERIC CARTMAN

Bothell, WA

#66820 Sep 18, 2013
At least brady had an good excuse for his behavior. He was retarded. michael jackson never had any good excuse. All he did this man 35 to 50 years of age. Was Cried. They are picking on me. Its not true. They lie. No one force michael jackson to sleep with little boys he wasn't related to. No one told him to hold a baby over a balcony. No one force him to change his face from a normal looking black man to ronald mcdonald. And no one force him to pay off someone for telling lies 25 million dollars. No. I feel sorry for real people with real problems and problems they don't causes on their own. Brady was a man in his 40s acting like a 10yr old for he had a real problem of retardation. He had a good excuse. Michael didn't. He wasn't a retarded superstar who thought he was peter pan. No he was a RICH MAN who had everything he wanted. He Had friends kissing his ass. Co workers kissing his ass and family members kissing his ass and you have the nerve to put him in the same catagory with brady or john marrick. THIS RICH MAN thought he could buy everything. Including children. And this RICH MAN had friends like elizabeth taylor calling him king. While brady had me coming to his defense from 2 boys pushing him around teasing him. michael had RICH FRIENDS like marlon brando giving him praise.while Brady was picking up trash
ERIC CARTMAN

Bothell, WA

#66821 Sep 18, 2013
I also don't see people in terms of black or white. Michael jackson wasn't a saint and wasn't jesus christ. He was a human so He had the same emotions we all have.that includes anger He wasn't different. He suffered from insecurities but thoses insecurities were insecurities we all have had one time or another. And just like we all have. He had a darkside too. For all humans have one. He just wasn't in control of his. His darkside was in control of him
ERIC CARTMAN

Bothell, WA

#66822 Sep 18, 2013
John wrote:
How in the hell would anyone know what MJ did ??.....besides he's dead so who cares ??
true but people care becauses of the children and the superstar status this man had and the crime he was accuses of

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#66823 Sep 18, 2013
MJFRIEND wrote:
TO LEN IS DISGUSTED : I have a problem with the word "recognizes " that michael eas a pedophile., when he was not. The correct word is "believes " YOu people "believe " and this belief is based on your feelings that he was a "strange " man with "strange " behavior." Your convicting someone based on what he looked like and his mannerism, and this is not fair to do to anyone.
I drew my conclusion Michael was a pedi plume, based on what the legal documents revealed. Your fantasy won't shove the evidence away.

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#66827 Sep 19, 2013
MJFREAK wrote:
TO LEN IS subject. IF you,re going to debate about jackson, you have to travel back toformation that explains his behavior especially his befriending children.. BY researching his life as a child and adolescent you will understand
'you have to travel back to his early childhood...'

Nonsense. You haven't the slightest notion of what debate is, ya stooge. You dump redundant rhetoric believing that inundating others with crap is somehow convincing.
Pedo supporter.

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#66829 Sep 19, 2013
MJFREAK wrote:
TO LEN IS DISGUSTED , by researching jacksons early childhood and adolescence you will understand how his wanting to build neverland and be around children was normal to him in his world. TO solely
You dumped the same crap a minute ago, babbling brook.

An NFL Fan

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#66831 Sep 19, 2013
MJFREAK wrote:
To NFL FAN : obviously you will never allow new Same thing on this forum , in order to debat about jackson one has to know the inticate history of the man.
So you read a Wacko Jacko book.

Your metaphor is weak, and you've confused debate with endless rhetoric.

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#66832 Sep 19, 2013
MJFRIEND wrote:
JAckson grew up depending on what people thought of him. HE was surrounded by people who took advantage of him., stole from him , sold stories about him or dued him. Jackson was sued almost every day of his life. From business deals, to women claiming to have his love child, from people saying they wrote thriller or other songs etc........he received crazy lthreats to sue every day. EVEN the families that got close to him , some saw an "opportunity" to make millions off of him because they could intimidate him . HE WAS surrounded by a crazy life which is why he latched on to normal families all over the world , specifically the casio family with whom he lived with for many years. FAMILIES and children were the only realness he had in his life. Unfortunately one family saw "opportunity for money , the other saw opportunity for "15 minutes of fame.
Get a grip. Seriously. A lot of big stars, especially controversial ones are sued (or tried) many times.. Though most are ignored.

If MJ had a problem with these accusations then he should have stopped sleeping with little boys. He should not of locked away child erotica, he should keep photographs of nude boys, he should not be walking in a room naked with a boy present, he should not be showing young boys pictures of diseased genitals, he should not be offering boys wine AND he should not be inviting boys over in the middle of the night.

No-one told him to do these things.

You talk about a bad childhood - It is found that many child molesters suffer from a traumatic childhood of some kind. You should also need reminding of Kony, who trained little boys to fight at a tender age. I do not see them growing up wanting to sleep with little boys.

You are making out MJ was tortured. Stop being ridiculous, he was living a luxurious life celebrated for co

“Depravity abounds...”

Since: Mar 13

Orlando, FL

#66833 Sep 19, 2013
John wrote:
How in the hell would anyone know what MJ did ??.....besides he's dead so who cares ??
This, so this...

Don't you people have anything better to do than to talk about a dead weirdo?

If not then why this one, history is rife with them...

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#66834 Sep 19, 2013
TwistedHubby wrote:
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This, so this...
Don't you people have anything better to do than to talk about a dead weirdo?
If not then why this one, history is rife with them...
It takes up 5-10 minutes of my day, so the whole ''Dont you people have anything better to do'' is a bit silly.

This is also a topic of debate - most people have a specific topic they choose to discuss. So yes history is rife with pedophiles, but this one has an abnormal amount of support

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