We drove 700 miles to fight N.R.A.

Feb 5, 2013 Full story: Daily Kos 103

Minneapolis paper photo Obama visit When I heard that President Obama was to appear in Minneapolis, Minnesota to push Congress to tighten our gun laws I new that I had to be there.

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someone

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Feb 5, 2013
Self enslaving slaves of a political party.
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Feb 6, 2013
Thank God that people care enough to drive a full day to defeat the NRA! THere may be hope for America yet!
someone

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Feb 6, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Thank God that people care enough to drive a full day to defeat the NRA! THere may be hope for America yet!
Hope?

Like obamas hope?

Will you be happy once all law abiding citizens lose the right to defend themselves?

What's your definition of "winning"?

Hope? Hope that the constitution is made null and void?

Hope? Hope that you pies away all our liberties?

Hope? What are you hoping for?

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#4 Feb 6, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Thank God that people care enough to drive a full day to defeat the NRA! THere may be hope for America yet!
Translation: I really admire the people that will work their butts off to destroy the US Constitution. Sieg Heil!
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Feb 6, 2013
Hope for an America not ruled by right wing extremists.

Hope that we can walk down the street without worrying about getting shot.

Hope that big business won't completely take over America.
Smart Liberal Translation

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Feb 6, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Translation: I really admire the people that will work their butts off to destroy the US Constitution. Sieg Heil!
In English:

I will make it sound like people that advocate sane and sensible gun control laws are really Nazis out to destroy the Constitution.

I like to lie and distort. I'm good at it. I'm Smart Liberal.

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#7 Feb 6, 2013
The Truth wrote:
Hope for an America not ruled by right wing extremists.
Hope that we can walk down the street without worrying about getting shot.
Hope that big business won't completely take over America.
Yep, much better to have the Marxist President and his crony capitalism buddies ruling this country.

As for you quest to have guns taken away from law abiding citizens, just how does that make it safer for you walking down the street?

You think the gang bangers will turn in their guns when you tell them to because it would be against the law? Oops! They already are breaking the law, aren't they?

What part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." do you not understand? I would be happy to explain that to you.

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"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Smart Liberal Translation

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Feb 6, 2013
In English:

I will attempt to demean President Obama by calling him untrue names.

"I will make it appear that the Demlocrats want to take guns away from law abiding citizens when in fact their real goal is to keeps guns out of the hands of criminals and those with mental health issues."

Thomas Jefferson said that no constitution should be used for more than a generation - at that point it should be tossed out and a new constitution drafted.

We are no longer living in the wild west. We should join the rest of the world with sane gun control laws.
The Truth

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Feb 6, 2013
poor liberal's - how did it feel to pay 3.50 per gallon to drive 1,400 miles and pay 250.00 to follow your muslim boy barry soetoro to liberal MN ? Just think with the socialist took over as dictator 4.5 yrs ago gas was @ 1.80 per gallon .... just keep drinking the jim carter socialist kool juice and we will all be paying 7.00 per gallon by the end of his dictatorship run.

__________
The Truth wrote:
Thank God that people care enough to drive a full day to defeat the NRA! THere may be hope for America yet!

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#10 Feb 6, 2013
I find it tremendously irresponsible for someone to drive 700 miles with gas at $3.50/gallon to listen to some emotional filled, factless, plea to abort the 2nd amendment.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#11 Feb 6, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Translation: I really admire the people that will work their butts off to destroy the US Constitution. Sieg Heil!
Translation- All things Hitler are bad, like beer ???

&

Constitution's writers knew assault weapons were coming ? "RIGHT
" ?

“The one and only Smart Liberal”

Since: Aug 12

Former MN Tax Payer

#12 Feb 6, 2013
Le Dumbo is in rare form this morning.
Smart Liberal Translation wrote:
In English:
I will attempt to demean President Obama by calling him untrue names.
If you had read President Obama’s book, Dreams from My Father, you would know that he clearly states his adulation of Marxism, his idolization of his Marxist professors, and his belief in the teachings of Marx.

But, no. You are too lazy to read. Therefore, I am happy to share my wisdom with a low information voter like you.
Smart Liberal Translation wrote:
In English:
"I will make it appear that the Demlocrats want to take guns away from law abiding citizens when in fact their real goal is to keeps guns out of the hands of criminals and those with mental health issues."
The anti-gun zealots do want to take away guns from law abiding citizens. That is a statement of fact.
Smart Liberal Translation wrote:
In English:
Thomas Jefferson said that no constitution should be used for more than a generation - at that point it should be tossed out and a new constitution drafted.
Thomas Jefferson was a very wise man. Strangely, I have never run across that specific quote from him. In fact, that is not what he said. Why don’t you go dig up the specific quote and context from the letter he wrote to James Madison. Then come back and we can talk about the words he actually used.

Here is a great quote from Jefferson though:

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
Smart Liberal Translation wrote:
In English:
We are no longer living in the wild west. We should join the rest of the world with sane gun control laws.
Isn’t that the same argument that was used by the anti-gun crowd in 2003 when the Personal Protection Act (Concealed Carry Law) passed? Yes it is.

“There is going to be blood running in the streets!” is exactly what was screamed by all the anti-freedom Leftists.

That turned out to be as big a crock of sh*t as what you are saying now.
redeemer

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Feb 6, 2013
Smart Liberal Translation wrote:
In English:
I will attempt to demean President Obama by calling him untrue names.
"I will make it appear that the Demlocrats want to take guns away from law abiding citizens when in fact their real goal is to keeps guns out of the hands of criminals and those with mental health issues."
Thomas Jefferson said that no constitution should be used for more than a generation - at that point it should be tossed out and a new constitution drafted.
We are no longer living in the wild west. We should join the rest of the world with sane gun control laws.
EXCELLENT POST!

'A free government is a complicated piece of machinery,the nice amd exact adjustments of whose springs,wheels,and weights,is not yet well comprehended by the artists of the age,and still less by the people."

John Adams
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#14 Feb 6, 2013
Could you have someone honest interpret your partisan BS !!??? Thanks ~!

"Man", if you worked like you B+S, you'd have lasted 1/2 a day, right ?
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#15 Feb 6, 2013
Smart Liberal wrote:
Le Dumbo is in rare form this morning.
<quoted text>
If you had read President Obama’s book, Dreams from My Father, you would know that he clearly states his adulation of Marxism, his idolization of his Marxist professors, and his belief in the teachings of Marx.
But, no. You are too lazy to read. Therefore, I am happy to share my wisdom with a low information voter like you.
<quoted text>
The anti-gun zealots do want to take away guns from law abiding citizens. That is a statement of fact.
<quoted text>
Thomas Jefferson was a very wise man. Strangely, I have never run across that specific quote from him. In fact, that is not what he said. Why don’t you go dig up the specific quote and context from the letter he wrote to James Madison. Then come back and we can talk about the words he actually used.
Here is a great quote from Jefferson though:
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
<quoted text>
Isn’t that the same argument that was used by the anti-gun crowd in 2003 when the Personal Protection Act (Concealed Carry Law) passed? Yes it is.
“There is going to be blood running in the streets!” is exactly what was screamed by all the anti-freedom Leftists.
That turned out to be as big a crock of sh*t as what you are saying now.
Sounds fair, so you're willing to prove your Shanker quote, too right ?
Miss Piggy

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Feb 6, 2013
What a colossal waste of gas!
Smart Liberal Translation

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Feb 6, 2013
In English:

When convenient, I prefer to think it is still the 17th century today.

I have no rational argument against universal background checks and banning assault style weapons and large capacity magazines so I'll try to spin it as an attack on our freedoms.
Thomas Jefferson

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Feb 6, 2013
Every constitution, then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of nineteen years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right. It may be said, that the succeeding generation exercising, in fact, the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law had been expressly limited to nineteen years only. In the first place, this objection admits the right, in proposing an equivalent. But the power of repeal is not an equivalent. It might be, indeed, if every form of government were so perfectly contrived, that the will of the majority could always be obtained, fairly and without impediment. But this is true of no form. The people cannot assemble themselves; their representation is unequal and vicious. Various checks are opposed to every legislative proposition. Factions get possession of the public councils, bribery corrupts them, personal interests lead them astray from the general interests of their constituents; and other impediments arise, so as to prove to every practical man, that a law of limited duration is much more manageable than one which needs a repeal." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1789. ME 7:459, Papers 15:396
Thomas Jefferson

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Feb 6, 2013
Let us provide in our constitution for its revision at stated periods. What these periods should be nature herself indicates. By the European tables of mortality, of the adults living at any one moment of time, a majority will be dead in about nineteen years. At the end of that period, then, a new majority is come into place; or, in other words, a new generation. Each generation is as independent as the one preceding, as that was of all which had gone before. It has then, like them, a right to choose for itself the form of government it believes most promotive of its own happiness; consequently, to accommodate to the circumstances in which it finds itself that received from its predecessors; and it is for the peace and good of mankind that a solemn opportunity of doing this every nineteen or twenty years should be provided by the constitution, so that it may be handed on with periodical repairs from generation to generation to the end of time, if anything human can so long endure." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:42
Thomas Jefferson

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Feb 6, 2013
A generation may bind itself as long as its majority continues in life; when that has disappeared, another majority is in place, holds all the rights and powers their predecessors once held and may change their laws and institutions to suit themselves. Nothing then is unchangeable but the inherent and unalienable rights of man." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:4

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