Justices to hear 'Hobby Lobby' contra...

Justices to hear 'Hobby Lobby' contraception case

There are 145 comments on the News 4 Jax story from Mar 25, 2014, titled Justices to hear 'Hobby Lobby' contraception case. In it, News 4 Jax reports that:

Conestoga Wood Specialties was founded a half-century ago in a Pennsylvania garage.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#27 Mar 26, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
So a business can refuse to follow any law just by claiming it infringes on their religious beliefs?
What happens when an atheist doctor refuses to treat a Christian who is bleeding to death because it infringes on the doctor's freedom of religion?
pretty much what Scalia argued just a scant while ago...he said it would open up just such a a pandora's box...
HUM

Abilene, TX

#28 Mar 26, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
how many states with the death penalty does Hobby lobby pay taxes to? they say they cannot support the taking of a life under their religious beliefs...
can't wait to see them pull out of those states...oh yeah..not quite THAT faithful, huh?
religious cult freaks amaze me...
hey dumb arss get off your knees and spit barry deek out of your moth.
the BAR is a RICO

Bradenton, FL

#29 Mar 26, 2014
Romney , John Yoo , Ted Cruz , Mike Raphan , Mark Ciavarella and Pinocchio OBAMA are lawyers ,.........zionist stooges who sell out the USA , on orders from their AIPAC / JDL / Fusion Center masters of deceit..........just say no to apartheid AIPAC and the jonathan pollard / Lawrie Bailey / Anthony Embriano fifth column of INFRAGARD corporate miscreants ..........see SPOOKY BUSINESS by Gary Ruskin , SUPERMOB ZIONISTS by Gus Russo , Wandering Who , BEN GURION SCANDALS , 51 Documents and THE LAW IN THESE PARTS by Norman Finklestein , Illan Pappe and Joel Kovel.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#30 Mar 26, 2014
HUM wrote:
<quoted text> hey dumb arss get off your knees and spit barry deek out of your moth.
You'd be better off speaking in your native tongue, if you could get it out of your ass.
Crazy and Rediculous

Beverly, MA

#31 Mar 26, 2014
Yep, men get to have all kinds of help with erectile dysfunction regardless of their sexual orientation or marital status. But let a woman need access to birth control and it is a huge controversy. Seriously messed-up and illogical.
get real

Broussard, LA

#32 Mar 26, 2014
RustyS wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting twist, Hobby Lobby denies all employees access to birth control? How do they even do that? I bet at least a few of their employees sneak out and buy it anyway. The next thing you know Hobby Lobby will tell their employees they can't smoke.
There are companies that don't hire smokers. Do a little research
lamer

Hamilton, OH

#33 Mar 26, 2014
If anyone read the opening arguments, its not looking good for hobby lobby.

"Can an employer deny vaccinations or blood transfusions under your argument?"

Hobby Lobby lawyer didnt know how to respond.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#34 Mar 26, 2014
lamer wrote:
If anyone read the opening arguments, its not looking good for hobby lobby.
"Can an employer deny vaccinations or blood transfusions under your argument?"
Hobby Lobby lawyer didnt know how to respond.
Can an employer deny providing for breast implants or tummy tucks? The lawyer didn't know how to respond.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#36 Mar 27, 2014
Crazy and Rediculous wrote:
Yep, men get to have all kinds of help with erectile dysfunction regardless of their sexual orientation or marital status. But let a woman need access to birth control and it is a huge controversy. Seriously messed-up and illogical.
Is it only women that see the irony of ed vs. contraception?

Seriously messed up and illogical.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#37 Mar 27, 2014
Progressive Dave wrote:
Birth control, breast agumentation, abortions, tummy tucks or nose jobs are everyones right. These so called family companies need to be made to pay for them whether they like it or not. This is why we elected President Obama to insure we are protected. The reTHUGlicans don't care and can't stop progress.
How do you compare cosmetic surgery and abortion?
Jorja Fox

Lovingston, VA

#38 Mar 27, 2014
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/03/27/3... #

What contraception actually costs and the implications these costs have for low income women: Although Justice Scalia said that because the corporations were objecting to just “three or four birth controls”, that they weren’t “terribly expensive,” the reality is much different.
The methods of contraception that Hobby Lobby and Conastoga Wood oppose are, indeed expensive and, as Solicitor General Verrilli put it,“precisely the kind of cost barrier” that the ACA was intended to break down. Until the contraception coverage under the ACA began in August 2012, most women with health insurance were paying between $30 and $60 per month for short-term birth-control methods, and the most effective long-term methods cost thousands of dollars, prohibiting many women from being able to access them.
Why is it important to provide contraception coverage? Consistent use of contraception prevents unintended pregnancies which cost federal and state agencies 12.5 billion dollars in 2008. One-third of women of reproductive age who inconsistently use contraceptives account for 95% of unintended pregnancies in the United States. Fifty-five percent of young adult women voters in a 2010 survey did not use their contraceptive methods consistently at some point due to cost factors. In 2012, before the contraceptive benefit kicked in, nearly one in four women with household incomes less than $75,000 delayed seeing a health care provider for contraception or gynecologic care to save money
Corporations that succeed in receiving accommodations could reap potentially significant financial benefits unavailable to their secular competitors, resulting in market distorting effects. A decision in favor of Hobby Lobby would allow corporations to use their religious beliefs to save money by evading generally applicable federal laws and regulations like the Civil Rights Act, the National Labor Relations Act, and the Family Medical Leave Act that are intended to protect employees and ensure that corporations provide needed services.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#39 Mar 27, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
how many states with the death penalty does Hobby lobby pay taxes to? they say they cannot support the taking of a life under their religious beliefs...
can't wait to see them pull out of those states...oh yeah..not quite THAT faithful, huh?
religious cult freaks amaze me...
I wonder if they allow divorced people inside their blessed doors? Or if any NON virgins, who are not married enter do they begin pelting them with stones? I guess they aren't GOOD Christians if they don't follow EVERY word of the bible.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#40 Mar 27, 2014
Crazy and Rediculous wrote:
Yep, men get to have all kinds of help with erectile dysfunction regardless of their sexual orientation or marital status. But let a woman need access to birth control and it is a huge controversy. Seriously messed-up and illogical.
The senate and congress are full of wheezy old codgers who haven't had a natural boner since Carter was president. Of course they want hard on pills. Women? Girls, you're on your OWN.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#41 Mar 27, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
The SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled a religious belief is not sufficient justification to break the law.
Otherwise those who belief human sacrifice as part of their religious beliefs couldn't be denied their practice either.
Shoot, there goes me bringing my rattlesnakes to work to handle during breaks! So much for MY freedom of religion.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#42 Mar 27, 2014
I have this nagging suspicion they're going to make some special exception carve out for these 2 companies.

That will start the ball rolling for every company to claim all govt regulations burden their free exercise of religion.

Exxon-Mobil will no longer have to follow environmental laws because it's against their religion.

Cracker Barrel can ban blacks from their restaurants because it's against their religion.

McDonald's can refuse to follow minimum wage laws because it's against their religion.

Ford can pay Jews $5/hr less than they pay Christians, because it's against their religion.

Yep, let the nonsense begin...
Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Pennington, NJ

#43 Mar 27, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
I have this nagging suspicion they're going to make some special exception carve out for these 2 companies.
That will start the ball rolling for every company to claim all govt regulations burden their free exercise of religion.
Exxon-Mobil will no longer have to follow environmental laws because it's against their religion.
Cracker Barrel can ban blacks from their restaurants because it's against their religion.
McDonald's can refuse to follow minimum wage laws because it's against their religion.
Ford can pay Jews $5/hr less than they pay Christians, because it's against their religion.
Yep, let the nonsense begin...
Its already happening. Pharmacists can refuse to dispense contraceptives and Plan B.
Cujo

Regina, Canada

#45 Mar 27, 2014
Eighthman wrote:
Hobby Lboby has already won this case in the court of public opinion.
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The UnAffordable Careless Act is against the law of the land though.
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How did people ever allow themselves to vote for such a glitchy, ridiculous excuse for a president. What a slob for a lawyer.
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I guess we will never know.
Fundie Christians don't count as the majority in public opinion. Your kind sure does like to lie for Jesus.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#46 Mar 27, 2014
charles in charge wrote:
<quoted text>
If stupidity were illegal, you'd be serving a life term. In fact - you are!:)
and LeJimbo would Noah, lol!

Since: Jul 11

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#47 Mar 27, 2014
be* Noah
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#48 Mar 27, 2014
"...the 6,000 women who work for Hobby Lobby may have to pay for their IUDs, even as the 14,000 male employees get Viagra, and even penis pumps, covered."

....self-righteous teavantalibanicals strike again.

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