Child molester sentenced

Full story: The Ukiah Daily Journal

Convicted child molester Sean Robey, 40, of Ukiah, was sentenced Friday to 15 years and eight months in prison for sex crimes against two teens.
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laker

Hayward, CA

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Mar 18, 2010
 
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I really doubt that a 16 or 17 y.o. bad boy placed at Trinity was seriously harmed psychologically or physically by sex with an older female, unless she threatened him with bodily harm if he would not participate.
You have got to be kidding. Are you saying a 16 year old girl who has an affair with a male teacher that lasts lets say 6-8 months would do no harm? Teenage girls participate, as do boys, which is exactly the kind of perverse logic the above poster is talking about. Just because they are willing, at first, certainly does not make it right or negate the fact that there is serious lasting damage. That is exactly why women who commit the same crime with the genders reversed are rarely given any jail time and it keeps happening again and again.
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#24
Mar 18, 2010
 
schoolmarm wrote:
Now if you are not a Christian and take the laws of Moses above Christ, you'd probably be glad to hear what happens to Child Molesters in prison. From the posts above, prison is made to sound like some kind of summer camp which is pretty odd given the violence, sexual assault, gangs, extreme overcrowding and complete lack of any rehabilitation programs, but I'm sure many would be glad to hear this. In regards to 'an eye for an eye' most, if not all, child molesters are sexually assaulted and beaten regularly. Almost all prison gangs initiate new members by having them assault/murder child molesters. So that might give you some satisfaction.
Yes most prisoners frown upon child molesters... however, that is why there are special cells and even special prisons that these people are put in. They are not put in general population.
Vexed

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Mar 19, 2010
 
Nuthin to Hide wrote:
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Please supply the link to the current research that shows women sexually abuse children at a rate "much higher" than 25%. Hopefully it will support your claims.
I really doubt that a 16 or 17 y.o. bad boy placed at Trinity was seriously harmed psychologically or physically by sex with an older female, unless she threatened him with bodily harm if he would not participate.
The worst kind of sexual abuse by women is by mothers who are mentally ill and are acting out their issues, or are completely merged with their child and see the child as no different than their "partner," as in life partner. A child cannot make any sense out of why "mommy is doing this." Some sexual abuse is really confounding, as in "mommy always wants to give me an enema."
The UDJ had a front page article some years back about survivors of childhood sexual abuse. One woman said her grandfather came to live with her mother and her when she was 5 years old. Her mom told him to sleep in the daughter's room. It didn't take long for him to rape her so much her hips disjointed and she couldn't walk. she had to be put in a body cast. Yes, it was her GRANDFATHER!! Child sexual abuse, a crime you are never too old to commit.
One of the reasons that so many more women get away with molesting their own children is that the children tend to want to protect their abusers. They have a conflict of emotions and think that this behavior is love because its all they have even known. When they get to an age where they realize it is wrong, they realize that something is wrong with their mother and do not want to "get her in trouble." These mothers use guilt trips on these children and make the child feel responsible for their parents shor comings. It a slippery slope because no matter what the child is damaged.

The courts have probelms with this, expecially in family court because they are caught between a rock and a hard place. The child won't tell anyone involved the truth and even when the courts have positive proof of the abuse, attorneys for the mother and child often convince the courts that more emotional damage will be causee by removing the child then leaving them with a sexually/emotionally abusive parent. The family court facilitator in Humboldt County told me in no uncertain terms that it is standard court procedure, to leave the child with the abusive parent and that usually at some point the child will turn against the abusive parent and completly shut them out.

To me this is counter productive. In one case in particular, the child is turning against the father that is fighting for her because she doesn't want to get her mother into trouble and the child sees the fathers concern as an attack of her emotionally damaged mother. The mother was a victim of abuse and refuses to seek the counseling she needs. Needless to say the father has been cut out of the childs life and the courts are supporting this. Their position is that soon the child will reject the mother in favor of the father so it will all work out.

Family law states basically that the child should be in the custody of which parent is most likely to foster a good relationship with both parent. Even so, the courts rule in favor of the parent (mother) that has never done anything but hide her child from the father and do everything possible to limit contact between father and child. Leaving these children with their abusers may cause less damage in the short term, but creates larger and more serious probelms it long run.
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Mar 19, 2010
 
schoolmarm wrote:
I couldn't disagree more with the comments about teenage boys being sexually abused. My God, how can someone think that way? I listed the posts from only February on the site I provided....

teacher - Accused of sex assault of girl, 16.
I graduated from high school in 1976. My Sophmore english teacher (who was one of the best teachers I had) lived about a block from my house. During my Junior year she started having parties at her house almost every night with the kids I went to school with. Mostly the "jocks." My best friend and I gave her a pot plant and and ounce of pot for her birthday that year. By the end of our junior year she was dating a student that was a Freshman. She continued to have a relationship with him through my Senior year.
During the summer after I graduated she was "let go." There were no articles in the paper, no charges filed even though this boy was pratically living with her. Their relationship was common knowledge among the students but parent and school administrators did not want to acknowledge the fact that a woman was molesting a child. It was all kept very hush hush. I ran into her and her best friend several years later in a restraunt close to my mothers home. Her best friend was just graduating from high school, this former teacher was almsot 30. She was still having the parties for high school students, dating another high school aged boy and dealing pot for a living.
To my knowledge no one ever investigated or payed any attention to what went on in her home. I never heard another word about it.
serving justice and fries

Laytonville, CA

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Mar 20, 2010
 
laker wrote:
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That is exactly why women who commit the same crime with the genders reversed are rarely given any jail time and it keeps happening again and again.
thats because we live in a feminist dictatorship, whereby all women are granted summary exemption from criticism based on gender. think im wrong? just go and try and question, contradict, or, god help ya, CRITICIZE A WOMEN???? go ahead. try it. see what happens.
just make sure she's not your boss...
she is innocent

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#28
May 18, 2010
 
In regards to Dawn Schwartzengraber - this is a sham. the "boy" was her daughter's ex-boyfriend who had an agenda. I know there are lots of cases where this type of thing really does happen, but not in this case. This whole case is based on his word, and he is not a truthful person. He was busted 2 times in school for cheating - that ought to tell you something about his charactor......
educated_and_ang ry

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May 18, 2010
 
serving justice and fries wrote:
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thats because we live in a feminist dictatorship, whereby all women are granted summary exemption from criticism based on gender. think im wrong? just go and try and question, contradict, or, god help ya, CRITICIZE A WOMEN???? go ahead. try it. see what happens.
just make sure she's not your boss...
It doesn't sound like you have ever cracked open a history book or even been able to see past the nose on your own face. Please keep your illogical, un-educated, chauvinistic, and misogynistic viewpoints to yourself. They verge on hate-speech. Also, I recommend learning proper english. I find this usually helps with the construction of a persuasive argument.
educated_and_ang ry

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#30
May 18, 2010
 
Additionally, all of you are missing the major point here. The cries for violent and torturuous retribution against people who commit sex crimes do nothing to STOP them from happening in the first place. This kind of "hang 'em high" mentality" is one of the factors that contributes to the high recidivism rate of offenders. Our prisons simply cannot hold the amount of people our society deems unfit. When sex-offenders are released back into communities, the social ostracism they experience often causes them to have little incentive to conform to societal norms which prohibit sexual abuse of children. Many of you will read this and believe that I am supporting sex offenders and have a total disregard for the children they victimize. In reality, abuse and victimization of children is often a cycle that repeats itself generationally. Children who were sexually abused are more likely to grow up to become abusers themselves. Of course, this is not always the case - far from it - it is merely a risk-factor. Also, many offenders are under the age of 18. As many as one-quarter of sex offenders are youth, and many of them were sexually abused themselves.

Bottom line: what we need is education and prevention practices that are a.) evidence-based, b.) more cost-effective than prision, and c.) involve a community-wide stance of zero tolerance for familial violence. Aruging about what should be done with offenders and victims after the fact is likely to be unfruitful.

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