America's wage crisis

America's wage crisis

There are 131 comments on the Reuters story from Jun 24, 2013, titled America's wage crisis. In it, Reuters reports that:

Representatives of Providian Staffing offer positions to job seekers in Los Angeles, California, May 31, 2012.

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Bob Lewis

AOL

#66 Jun 26, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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They pander to unions because by their very nature they are socialist in practice-only an employee with this job title can do that job even though a trained 10 year old could do it. Or you must have this training/education or gone through this process again more bureaucratic stipulation.
This is why extreme lefties frequently come off as elitist or pompus because they feel entitled/special because they have a title. The title and not actual ability gives them status which is very important to them.
You nailed it. In the most pathetic example...The Clerical Union at the Port of los Angeles struck in Dec '12. Not over wages as the CLERKS average $145,000 per year for doing mostly menial jobs.....or vacation as they already get ELEVEN weeks per year.....but over AUTOMATING the simpliest tasks in the clerical offices. They Won after costing Shippers over $6 Billion is lost Christmas shipments. Read it again. Read it and weep.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#67 Jun 26, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Reagan put tariffs on German and Japanese car manufactures...which is why they have planst in US now, employing Americans.
DUH
Poor fleabagger..
Placing tariffs on a country causes them to open up factories in that country?

That is a fine bit of teabagger wisdom.

Poor teabagger.
Bob Lewis

AOL

#68 Jun 26, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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Why would he need tariffs?
If he didn't sign the trade agreements in the first place?
April 18, 1987
President Reagan, saying he was trying ``to enforce the principles of free and fair trade,`` imposed a 100 percent tariff Friday on some Japanese-made computers, television sets and power tools.
White House officials said American consumers could substitute similar foreign and domestic products to avoid higher prices. Retailers agreed consumers should feel little effect, except for those who buy laptop computers.
The proclamation, the first major retaliation against Japan in the postwar period, reflects the administration`s contention that Tokyo failed to comply with a semiconductor agreement signed with Washington last July.
The American tariff action covers products whose sales to the United States brought Japanese manufacturers $300 million last year, which is just a tiny fraction of the $23 billion in electronic products that Japan exported to the United States last year.
Reagan warned on March 27 that he would take the retaliatory step. In a statement Friday, he said he was taking the action because Japan had not enforced its agreement with the United States to improve access to its semiconducter market and to refrain from selling its chips in third-country markets below cost, a practice known as ``dumping.``
``The health and vitality of the U.S. semiconductor industry is essential to America`s future competitiveness,`` Reagan said.``We cannot allow it to be jeopardized by unfair trading practices.``
Two years AFTER Reagan endorsed and promoted "globalization".
Poor teabagger
PLEASE have a heart. Dont' remind us How far we have fallen in World prestige and respect since we settled for Obama!
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#69 Jun 26, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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They pander to unions because by their very nature they are socialist in practice-only an employee with this job title can do that job even though a trained 10 year old could do it. Or you must have this training/education or gone through this process again more bureaucratic stipulation.
This is why extreme lefties frequently come off as elitist or pompus because they feel entitled/special because they have a title. The title and not actual ability gives them status which is very important to them.
Unions are "socialist" in nature?

Lech Wa&#322;&#281;sa was an electrician by trade. Soon after beginning work at the Gda&#324;sk (then, "Lenin") Shipyards, he became a dissident trade-union activist. For this he was persecuted by the communist authorities, placed under surveillance, fired in 1976, and arrested several times. In August 1980 he was instrumental in political negotiations that led to the ground-breaking Gda&#324;sk Agreement between striking workers and the government. He became a co-founder of the Solidarity trade-union movement.

Afterwards, he worked as an electrician for several other companies, but was continually laid off for his activism and was jobless for long periods. He and his family were under constant surveillance by the Polish secret police; his home and workplace were always bugged. Over the next few years, he was arrested several times for participating in dissident activities.

So....... if the unions were "socialist" why would they government want to shut them down?

Sounds like Reagan and the teabaggers today.

Keeping surveillance?

Sounds like Bush's un "Patriot" Act.

Teabaggers always try to rewrite history and facts.

Poor teabagger.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#70 Jun 26, 2013
Bob Lewis wrote:
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PLEASE have a heart. Dont' remind us How far we have fallen in World prestige and respect since we settled for Obama!
Since Reagan.

Poor teabagger.
serfs up

Ormond Beach, FL

#71 Jun 26, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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Why would he need tariffs?
If he didn't sign the trade agreements in the first place?
April 18, 1987
President Reagan, saying he was trying ``to enforce the principles of free and fair trade,`` imposed a 100 percent tariff Friday on some Japanese-made computers, television sets and power tools.
White House officials said American consumers could substitute similar foreign and domestic products to avoid higher prices. Retailers agreed consumers should feel little effect, except for those who buy laptop computers.
The proclamation, the first major retaliation against Japan in the postwar period, reflects the administration`s contention that Tokyo failed to comply with a semiconductor agreement signed with Washington last July.
The American tariff action covers products whose sales to the United States brought Japanese manufacturers $300 million last year, which is just a tiny fraction of the $23 billion in electronic products that Japan exported to the United States last year.
Reagan warned on March 27 that he would take the retaliatory step. In a statement Friday, he said he was taking the action because Japan had not enforced its agreement with the United States to improve access to its semiconducter market and to refrain from selling its chips in third-country markets below cost, a practice known as ``dumping.``
``The health and vitality of the U.S. semiconductor industry is essential to America`s future competitiveness,`` Reagan said.``We cannot allow it to be jeopardized by unfair trading practices.``
Two years AFTER Reagan endorsed and promoted "globalization".
Poor teabagger
there are different ways of looking at things. At one time America made sure it protected itself with its industry and the explosion of growth was the greatest in history. But we got sloppy, fat and had quality issues on many of our products as other nations rebuilt from World War 2. Our big ticket unions destroyed themselves and held the nation hostage every few years on contracts after World War 2. Stresses started to appear in our financial and economic system as we started to tax and spend more and more resources with debts expanding. Cutting the last vestige with gold in the early 1970's opened up the rest of the free world and they did not look behind. By the late 1980's the communist world was opened up. And all the time our debts were mushrooming our taxes exploding and the foundation of what was great slowly buckling. Now we are on the verge of becoming a socialist style pariah needing to purchase all of our products from lower wage nations. We create very little industrial/factory jobs anymore and have become a service economy oriented nation. Only the hiring of millions of useless government employees, many who keep their fellow man incarcerated and/or living with trepadition of breaking the ten million laws enacted, masks the true decline in a nation that lives off of each other like some viral parasites. Prudent economic would raise the prime rate several points or per cent, but that would devastate us. So people will become what others do. Why keep paying for others when others can pay for you. And that is happening and the line between collector and payer is being crossed by more and more people everyday. Reagan only bowed to the inevitable that the elitists have carved out. And he was a conservative not a RINO, NEO CON, or PROGRESSIVE who expanded this even more. In fact it what these groups that crafted the law for him to sign.
sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#72 Jun 26, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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Unions are "socialist" in nature?

.......

So....... if the unions were "socialist" why would they government want to shut them down?
Sounds like Reagan and the teabaggers today.
Keeping surveillance?
Sounds like Bush's un "Patriot" Act.
Teabaggers always try to rewrite history and facts.
Poor teabagger.
The government is NOT the ones who want to shut them down. Public employee unions are some of the strongest unions remaining. The government types use and need government unions to sell the business of government ie jobs. There might conservative factions with in government that want to eliminate them but as a whole it's NOT government that wants to shut them down.

It's corporate and capitalist America that wants unions shut down the most for financial reasons. Unions definately have their place. But they also perpetuate and/or bread things like contempt and entitlement.

I know members of trade unions whose union only was/is able to get them 3-6 months work a year if that since the mid 90s and yet they are forbidden to work in a non union business. Many are frequently blackmailed or threatend with over 20 years of benefits they contributed too .Without their work/wages the union couldn't offer squat in bennies.
conservative crapola

Bethlehem, PA

#74 Jun 26, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
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flagged as multi-thread copy and paste board spam
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#75 Jun 26, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>When asked in 2009 if Obamacare’s individual mandate constituted a tax increase, President Obama had a firm response:“I absolutely reject that notion.”
But now, given the Supreme Court’s ruling on his health care law, the president must admit that the individual mandate in indeed a tax. It’s either that, or admitting to its unconstitutionality.
As tax increases go, Obamacare is a doozy. President Obama vowed not to tax any family making less than $250,000 annually. Obamacare will do just that. And unfortunately, it isn’t the only tax that middle class Americans will have to shoulder, The Heritage Foundation’s Alyene Senger explains:
The individual mandate is far from alone on Heritage’s lengthy list of Obamacare’s new taxes and penalties, many of which will heavily impact the middle class. Altogether, Obamacare’s taxes and penalties will accumulate an additional $500 billion in new revenue over a 10-year period. Yesterday, a senior economist for The Wall Street Journal revealed that 75 percent of Obamacare’s new taxes will be paid for by American families making under $120,000 a year. Among the taxes that will hit the middle class are the individual mandate, a 2.3 percent excise tax on medical devices, a 10 percent excise tax on indoor tanning, and an increase of the floor on medical deductions from 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income to 10 percent.
Heritage?

WSJ?

"lengthy list"?

"2.3 percent excise tax"?

A 2.3% medical device excise tax imposed by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 ("Obamacare") did, in fact, take effect as of Jan. 1, 2013, but it does not apply to consumer purchases. According to the IRS: "Because the tax is imposed upon the sale of a taxable medical device by the manufacturer or importer, the manufacturer or importer is responsible for reporting and paying the tax."

In addition, the law provides for what is called a "retail exemption," meaning items such as eyeglasses, contact lenses, hearing aids, and "other devices that are of a type that are generally purchased by the general public at retail for individual use" are exempt from the medical device excise tax.

Tanning tax?

Simple, don't use indoor tanning salons.

No tax.

"an increase of the floor on medical deductions from 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income to 10 percent".

That's not a tax increase, it's a deduction.

It is generally the case that even under the current 7.5% threshold, a taxpayer has to have a lot of medical deductions in order to get an itemized medical deduction on the tax return. Usually these people, their spouse, or other dependents are ill or injured and they are struggling to with the accompanying financial burden. It is said that most personal bankruptcies are caused by the burden of catastrophic medical expenses.

Only 16 more to go.

Poor teabagger.

Since: Jun 13

Franklin, KY

#77 Jun 26, 2013
Wages are too low thanks to inflation. Taxes are too high thanks to a Corrupt government. A bad combination for anyone who wants to work hard and make a living. Better off going on welfare in our current system. I refuse to do that, but that is the trend.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#78 Jun 26, 2013
BiggBBoss wrote:
Wages are too low thanks to inflation. Taxes are too high thanks to a Corrupt government. A bad combination for anyone who wants to work hard and make a living. Better off going on welfare in our current system. I refuse to do that, but that is the trend.
really? you would make more off welfare than your net income? perhaps you should motivate yourself and move up from working the McFry machine...

Since: Jun 13

Franklin, KY

#79 Jun 26, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>really? you would make more off welfare than your net income? perhaps you should motivate yourself and move up from working the McFry machine...
Lol, you missed the point. About 4,300,000 people are currently on welfare.

Since: Jun 13

Franklin, KY

#80 Jun 26, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>really? you would make more off welfare than your net income? perhaps you should motivate yourself and move up from working the McFry machine...
I would belittle people who work at fast food. I never done it but it is an honest job. People should not be belittled for trying to make a living for themselves.

Since: Jun 13

Franklin, KY

#81 Jun 26, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>really? you would make more off welfare than your net income? perhaps you should motivate yourself and move up from working the McFry machine...
I wouldn't belittle people who work at fast food. I never done it but it is a honest job. People should not be belittled for trying to make a living for themselves.

“I laugh at Robo Posters”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#82 Jun 27, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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Heritage?
WSJ?
"lengthy list"?
"2.3 percent excise tax"?
A 2.3% medical device excise tax imposed by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 ("Obamacare") did, in fact, take effect as of Jan. 1, 2013, but it does not apply to consumer purchases. According to the IRS: "Because the tax is imposed upon the sale of a taxable medical device by the manufacturer or importer, the manufacturer or importer is responsible for reporting and paying the tax."
In addition, the law provides for what is called a "retail exemption," meaning items such as eyeglasses, contact lenses, hearing aids, and "other devices that are of a type that are generally purchased by the general public at retail for individual use" are exempt from the medical device excise tax.
Tanning tax?
Simple, don't use indoor tanning salons.
No tax.
"an increase of the floor on medical deductions from 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income to 10 percent".
That's not a tax increase, it's a deduction.
It is generally the case that even under the current 7.5% threshold, a taxpayer has to have a lot of medical deductions in order to get an itemized medical deduction on the tax return. Usually these people, their spouse, or other dependents are ill or injured and they are struggling to with the accompanying financial burden. It is said that most personal bankruptcies are caused by the burden of catastrophic medical expenses.
Only 16 more to go.
Poor teabagger.
Bot Babble Noted.

“I laugh at Robo Posters”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#83 Jun 27, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>really? you would make more off welfare than your net income? perhaps you should motivate yourself and move up from working the McFry machine...
So many assumptions, so little time.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#84 Jun 27, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>Bot Babble Noted.
Run, Pookie RUN.

Poor teabagger

“I laugh at Robo Posters”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#85 Jun 27, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
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Run, Pookie RUN.
Poor teabagger
Audit confirms IRS targeted conservatives, not liberals...

Targeted 292 Tea Party groups, just 6 progressive groups...
Bob Lewis

AOL

#86 Jun 27, 2013
There is no wage crisis. Just get a govt job...lots of holidays.....good money..great benefits and .a tax slave funded pension plus NO accoutibility for doing the job well.
It's a no brainer.........

“I laugh at Robo Posters”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#87 Jun 27, 2013
Bob Lewis wrote:
There is no wage crisis. Just get a govt job...lots of holidays.....good money..great benefits and .a tax slave funded pension plus NO accoutibility for doing the job well.
It's a no brainer.........
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