Parents blast RUSD over autism plan

For months now, a group of parents has been challenging the adequacy of services offered to students with autism in Redlands Unified School District. Full Story
Chris

Canyon Country, CA

#1 Aug 8, 2010
seriously,
you want to spend money for a specialized education then send your kids to a private school. Depending on a public school for your needs is just plain crazy. With the limited amount of money to spread around too? There is no reality here, the only thing criminal is Gil Navarro.
THE EYE

Fontana, CA

#2 Aug 8, 2010
What a crock of garbage. Have any of you read the symptoms of Assboogers. It's really an excuse for parents to not be parents. Almost all typical teenager behaviour can be attributed to "High Functioning Aspergers" These kids are by all accounts normal. Creating 504 plans and IEP's for them is a considerable waste of District resources. The parents of these children need to step up to their parental responsibilities and start doing their jobs. Teach your kids right and wrong quit blaming the system because you were on drugs when you were pregnant or because you stuck your head in the microwave while it was running. Granted there are severe cases of the retardation but this article is about kids that none of you would be able to recognize as handicapped. Their only handicap is their parents. Personal experience dealing with one. If you tell your kid that they have a problem long enough they will eventually believe you.
TruthIs

Yucaipa, CA

#3 Aug 8, 2010
Exactly right, "The Eye".

If these kids have such problems it's up to the parents to step up and handle it. Their comments about how their kids are so much smarter than everyone else (except for the inability to do normal things...?!?!?!) is stupid. The only other self- entitled, my kid is so much better than everyone else's group are homeschoolers.....hey, wait....THERE'S a soultion for THESE parents! They'ed be right at home in THAT group.

I don't want my taxes paying to pamper these average students, fix the roads, hire the police back, do something that benefits everyone, not just a special few!
Twice Exceptional

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Aug 9, 2010
Bravo to these parents who are holding the RUSD to the Federal Laws under IDEA, ADA, and FAPE as written. It is about time parents voice the rights of these children. School districts want to box all kids into a plan that fits their system instead of meeting the individual needs of the students. Change starts with parents expressing their kids Civil Rghts. They are doing the RIGHT thing. As the previous comments show many people live in the dark ages.
You really have no idea how many of US tax paying citizens support these parents.
Making The Case

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Aug 9, 2010
THE EYE wrote:
What a crock of garbage. Have any of you read the symptoms of Assboogers. It's really an excuse for parents to not be parents. Almost all typical teenager behaviour can be attributed to "High Functioning Aspergers" These kids are by all accounts normal. Creating 504 plans and IEP's for them is a considerable waste of District resources. The parents of these children need to step up to their parental responsibilities and start doing their jobs. Teach your kids right and wrong quit blaming the system because you were on drugs when you were pregnant or because you stuck your head in the microwave while it was running. Granted there are severe cases of the retardation but this article is about kids that none of you would be able to recognize as handicapped. Their only handicap is their parents. Personal experience dealing with one. If you tell your kid that they have a problem long enough they will eventually believe you.
Hey thanks Eye for dealing with "ONE" and becoming an "expert". Open your other eye! Just think what you maybe able to tell us about our kids with both eyes open! It's nice to show the community the kind of people who try to help our kids. You are scary! You have helped us really make our point. Look forward to more comments...to further our cause!
RUSD Parent

San Bernardino, CA

#6 Aug 9, 2010
I agree with Chris, the eye, & truthls. My children attend RUSD, & the district is struggling to make due & handle the students they have. Asking to have a special program for autistic students is ridiculous. So the other student do not get new books, sports & other activites are cancelled because the school district needs to come up with a special program for a small group of students? If the parents are so concerned with their children's education, the article states they have the option of putting their children in another school that has these special programs. I know a parent who did just that because she was constantly getting called because her child would get to the point that she could not be calmed down because of noises, etc. I laugh at the comment from the parent in the article that says her child is like Einstein, but needs help getting to & from class? What are they going to do in college? Sue the college because they don't have someone to be a buddy with them & help them get around? I think we need to take some parental responsibility that no one is guaranteed a perfect child, but you have to do what is best for your child. These parents want their children mainstreamed, but then they come back saying that their child cannot handle noise & other disruptions in the classroom. have you ever been on any one of the RUSD campuses?
It is me

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Aug 9, 2010
RUSD Parent wrote:
I agree with Chris, the eye, & truthls. My children attend RUSD, & the district is struggling to make due & handle the students they have. Asking to have a special program for autistic students is ridiculous. So the other student do not get new books, sports & other activites are cancelled because the school district needs to come up with a special program for a small group of students? If the parents are so concerned with their children's education, the article states they have the option of putting their children in another school that has these special programs. I know a parent who did just that because she was constantly getting called because her child would get to the point that she could not be calmed down because of noises, etc. I laugh at the comment from the parent in the article that says her child is like Einstein, but needs help getting to & from class? What are they going to do in college? Sue the college because they don't have someone to be a buddy with them & help them get around? I think we need to take some parental responsibility that no one is guaranteed a perfect child, but you have to do what is best for your child. These parents want their children mainstreamed, but then they come back saying that their child cannot handle noise & other disruptions in the classroom. have you ever been on any one of the RUSD campuses?
First off...ADA and IDEA are federal funded programs and do not come from the same funding as General Ed. Learn about school district budgets! Second...Funding for Speical Education does not take away from the General State Funding. If anything Districts borrow from Special Ed funding to help General Ed funding. Third...Join your school's SSC to learn more about this and empower yourself and to help your children. Fourth..it is more economical to include students in the mainstream classroom with supports than fund them to attend a non public school.(Segregation ended with Brown vs. the Board of Ed.) Fifth...someday my ASD son will be your child's boss and I will laugh at that.
Lastly...ASD is a spectrum disorder. If you have met one on the spectrum than you have met one on the spectrum. Educate yourself...autism is not what you think it is!
RUSD Parent

Redlands, CA

#9 Aug 9, 2010
It is me wrote:
<quoted text>
First off...ADA and IDEA are federal funded programs and do not come from the same funding as General Ed. Learn about school district budgets! Second...Funding for Speical Education does not take away from the General State Funding. If anything Districts borrow from Special Ed funding to help General Ed funding. Third...Join your school's SSC to learn more about this and empower yourself and to help your children. Fourth..it is more economical to include students in the mainstream classroom with supports than fund them to attend a non public school.(Segregation ended with Brown vs. the Board of Ed.) Fifth...someday my ASD son will be your child's boss and I will laugh at that.
Lastly...ASD is a spectrum disorder. If you have met one on the spectrum than you have met one on the spectrum. Educate yourself...autism is not what you think it is!
I doubt your child will ever be anyone's boss. My children are both straight A students in a normal classroom, they don't need anyone to help them get to their classes, they can tie their own shoes, etc. They are in special programs in the district-they are called GATE & AP classes. If my child needed extra help in school, I would help them by getting a tutor & spending more time with them. I wouldn't be running around chasing my tail at school board meetings while my child gets further & further behind & stressed out while I try to prove a point with the district. As far as segregation, where are you going to put your child where they aren't around noise & the other things that bother & hinder their learning? The parents in the article are stating that a normal classroom is not conducive to learning. Where is your child going to work where they can be given special treatment their whole career? I think I know the answer-not working but receiving SSI, which is probably what your child already gets monthly.
It is me

Whittier, CA

#10 Aug 10, 2010
[who="RUSD Parent "]<quoted text>
I doubt your child will ever be anyone's boss. My children are both straight A students in a normal classroom, they don't need anyone to help them get to their classes, they can tie their own shoes, etc. They are in special programs in the district-they are called GATE & AP classes. If my child needed extra help in school, I would help them by getting a tutor & spending more time with them. I wouldn't be running around chasing my tail at school board meetings while my child gets further & further behind & stressed out while I try to prove a point with the district. As far as segregation, where are you going to put your child where they aren't around noise & the other things that bother & hinder their learning? The parents in the article are stating that a normal classroom is not conducive to learning. Where is your child going to work where they can be given special treatment their whole career? I think I know the answer-not working but receiving SSI, which is probably what your child already gets monthly.
It is awesome that your children are straight A students. Both my children are Advanced in all areas of the curriculum. STAR test results will be published in a few weeks. We hit the ceiling on last years tests. I hope yours do well too. Both of my sons qualified for GATE. The only difference is that one son has an ASD disability. To say he is not entitled to FAPE like your children is to say to a child in a wheelchair "You need help to get to your classroom or you can't tie your shoes, etc...that's too bad." So sad... A disability is a disabiltity. Under IDEA children are entitled to FAPE regardless of the disability. Some ASD disabilities are not as academic as they are a social/emotional deficit. Offering accomodations or modifications is the right thing to do. GATE and AP classes are accomodations too. My husband and I have been educators for over 30 years combined. We help our children ourselves. We do not need to hire tutors! I volunteer in the classroom, SSC, and district's CAC. I am aware of public school policies and laws. We parents set an example of how to be empowered when school districts are not following the law. It's more than proving a point as you will someday see. It's a good thing for our children to see their parents standing up for their children. We are standing up for their Civil Rights. You stand up for your children too! My son's ASD does not take anything away from your children. It may teach them tolerance, acceptance, not to discriminate and not to segregate. AS for "thinking" my child will not be your child's boss. He probably will be his own boss. Our children will probably will not cross career paths. Unless your child is looking for a career as a research scientist studying supermassive black holes and quasars. As for SSI..LOL. Be careful because your "thinking" is a little close minded. I pontificate endlessly here...
Father of ASD kid

United States

#11 Aug 11, 2010
I was surprised of the ignorance of many commenters. "It is me" has a child with a spectral disorder as do I. I don't doubt that there are many kids that just need parents with a backbone. But, if you've ever had a discussion with a child with Asperger's, you'd soon realize the differences. You can just talk a kid through to get him/her to think the expected way just as you can't coerce a blind person to see. Trust me, I'd love to not have to deal with this issue. I have two other sons that are "normal", one of which received his diploma at 15 yrs old. I'm not bragging but stating that I've experienced both sides.

As for private schools, actually my son was attending a "Christian" school for 2 years until upon entering the new school year and a yet ignorant teacher, she packed my son's books, handed them to my son's "normal" brother and said to "tell your mom he's no longer welcome". Oh, and they came after us for the full year's tuition! Granted, that was a blow that we dealt with but private schools, unless specially designed to deal with these kids, can not and will not accept these kids. They are in the biz of making a name for themselves academically to yet bring in more paying parents and don't have the formalized training nor budget to address the needs. We learned that first hand, so, on to the public school system for the first time.

Trust me, I'm not looking for a handout but just an opportunity for my child to be given the chance to be a productive member of society. Those that are cast aside today will definitely be addressed in one way or another by society in the future. Attempting to provide a bit more guidance today will go along way to assure that they are "makers" and not "takers".
And I would be careful if I were you on your "mightier than thou" rational. You may wake up one day with a disease that changes your life forever. My wife woke up one morning 5 years ago with symptoms of Multiple Sclerosis (MS) and is need of a wheelchair. We didn't see that coming and neither will you if you are one-day stricken with a life-altering event.

If any of you have a positive response, I look forward to your reply, otherwise I'm sure there will be some knee-jerk comments that will be made just to put me in my place. I've had to deal with those types when dealing with school administrators so I'm sure I can handle haters all the same.
IE Chicano Educator

Riverside, CA

#12 Aug 12, 2010
Wow.... some of these comments just make me so sad to view the true colors of people who live in my community. To mock the disability that some of these kids have is just completely amoral.

I am so happy that each of you have disability-free kids, and I wish you a continued line of "perfect DNA".... but for those children and families that do have the challenge of ASD, please seek to understand their life before you ridicule.

Autism is rising at a terrifying rate, and I dont wish it on any family.... But perhaps only when it directly hits your family or loved ones will you see life from the other side.
Open Eye

Phoenix, AZ

#13 Aug 20, 2010
THE EYE wrote:
What a crock of garbage. Have any of you read the symptoms of Assboogers. It's really an excuse for parents to not be parents. Almost all typical teenager behaviour can be attributed to "High Functioning Aspergers" These kids are by all accounts normal. Creating 504 plans and IEP's for them is a considerable waste of District resources. The parents of these children need to step up to their parental responsibilities and start doing their jobs. Teach your kids right and wrong quit blaming the system because you were on drugs when you were pregnant or because you stuck your head in the microwave while it was running. Granted there are severe cases of the retardation but this article is about kids that none of you would be able to recognize as handicapped. Their only handicap is their parents. Personal experience dealing with one. If you tell your kid that they have a problem long enough they will eventually believe you.
"Personal experience dealing with one." When you deal with one kid with autism, you are dealing with one kid with autism. It is a little bit too much for you to base your limited experience in making generalized statement "parents of these children need to step up to their parental responsibilities and start doing their jobs." Right?
Nei

San Bernardino, CA

#14 Nov 18, 2012
I realize your comment is old but it still applies.
I want to let you know that autism is a spectrum disorder with varying degrees of disability. Parents in RUSD have been and still are fighting to get their children placed in the correct school. The problem is that the district makes it very difficult to move a child from one school to another.
They make promises to parents and do not keep them. Most parents do not know how to proceed with broken promises. They ask for help from the coordinators and directors but get turned away, ignored, or pressured into believing that there is no other option for the child.
There are many schools with programs but RUSD wants to place autistic children with mentally disabled children only because they lack the communication skills.
I am super disappointing with the way RUSD is handling there autistic children.
Parental rights are in place for a reason. When it comes to money, schools get federal money for having a disabled child in the school. They do not want to let the child move to another school because they will loose the money.

Every child has a right to education!
RUSD Parent wrote:
I agree with Chris, the eye, & truthls. My children attend RUSD, & the district is struggling to make due & handle the students they have. Asking to have a special program for autistic students is ridiculous. So the other student do not get new books, sports & other activites are cancelled because the school district needs to come up with a special program for a small group of students? If the parents are so concerned with their children's education, the article states they have the option of putting their children in another school that has these special programs. I know a parent who did just that because she was constantly getting called because her child would get to the point that she could not be calmed down because of noises, etc. I laugh at the comment from the parent in the article that says her child is like Einstein, but needs help getting to & from class? What are they going to do in college? Sue the college because they don't have someone to be a buddy with them & help them get around? I think we need to take some parental responsibility that no one is guaranteed a perfect child, but you have to do what is best for your child. These parents want their children mainstreamed, but then they come back saying that their child cannot handle noise & other disruptions in the classroom. have you ever been on any one of the RUSD campuses?

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