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Local: Visalia pastor sues son over 'cyberbullying'

There are 1863 comments on the The Fresno Bee story from Oct 18, 2012, titled Local: Visalia pastor sues son over 'cyberbullying'. In it, The Fresno Bee reports that:

Visalia Calvary Church pastor, the Rev. Bob Grenier, and his wife, Gayle, have sued their estranged son, Alex Grenier, accusing him of defamation and cyberbullying.

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CalvaryChapelAbu sedotcom

Caldwell, ID

#807 Dec 5, 2012
I know what happened to me and I am a witness to what happened. No way to spin me. The law is clear on the issue of child abuse.
Who

United States

#808 Dec 5, 2012
you says
"...not some pompous rich a-hole standing at a custom made pulpit with his face plastered in public getting worshiped by the koolaid drinking followers..>"
Who says
Meeeow!
Who

United States

#809 Dec 5, 2012
you says
"...Pretty cut and dry. I believe that fits the bill...."
Who says
You have not SHOWN that it fits the bill.
You've SAID it fits the bill; you've convinced OTHERS that it fits the bill, but those others are intellectually challenged and/or predisposed/prejudiced to believe you.
Maybe they p[roject some bad experience they've had with THEIR pastor, and you go giving them some other target that they feel justified in hating and blaming.
Pretty neat trick.
Pretty illegal.
I haven't received any paper delivery from you yet, so you must have been accusing the wrong person (me) of committing a criminal act against you.
Now I know what it feels like to be falsely accused of a crime by Alex in a public forum.
It is very discouraging.
It makes me feel bullied.
My name is Who.
Who

Modesto, CA

#810 Dec 5, 2012
you says
"...The law is clear on the issue of child abuse...."
Who says
What is NOT clear is the issue of whether or not you are telling the truth.
My name is Who.
Who

Modesto, CA

#812 Dec 5, 2012
Just read your latest post at your hatesite.
What your article forgot to mention was that yes, the Idaho lawsuit alleged this, yes the Idaho lawsuit alleged that, but the court found those allegations false.
But there you are chirping like it is a fact when the judge said, in effect, "what you allege is not true."
But you don't hear that from Alex and his cronies.
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Quick question, Alex...If you are found guilty of defamation, will you abide by the court's decision or will you continue your hate campaign against your family?
If what you allege is found to be false, will you continue to allege it?
Who re ANYONE

Adelanto, CA

#813 Dec 5, 2012
Slapp Who wrote:
<quoted text>
You are obviously some one of little intelligence and poor breeding so let me break this down for you pea brain.
You are both small men who care little for the truth. Your low character is easily seen through your writings. I see both to be very lonely people who pretend to have knowledge but lack even the most basic understanding of the law. You hide behind your computers cyber trolling good people for kicks.
5150....is tattooed on the back if your mothers neck.
Don't believe everything you read. That was left by the last the last guy. LOL
__________
Golly gee i aint got no morals, damn streight im a lo caracter and i is as dum as a box of rocks.:( you is 1 smart Slapp happpee to no that rite a ways about me.^^^^^^^^^

LOL! You ignorant POS- what you wrote shows just how fucking little you know about EVERYTHING! LOL fat fuck.

I've spent years on forums and I only use "profanity" towards delusional socially inept cretins like you Slapp- because anything cohesive or coherently rebutted by others against you/and/or Alex, is beyond the depth of your comprehension, so I stooped to your level of intelligence.^^^^^^^ ;)

While you're lacking in intelligence, you're definitely not lacking in stupidity. So therefore, your opinion for thinking I have "little intelligence." LOL! I take that as a compliment coming from a Slappy ass inbred like you. ;)

Speaking about not having knowledge of the law, and pretending to have knowledge....What a fucking joke!! That comment speaks for itself and needs no reply. Ain't no pretending about having knowledge- I know for a FACT (which I could prove- if needed) that I am quite knowledgeable about the legalities of the law, and human rights as well.

As for the erroneous shit talk about "men who care little for the truth"...where in the fuck were you hatched at??
Number 1: I'm NOT a male. I am a female. I do not hide behind my computer...it's quite obvious I'm right here on my computer. LOL! ;) I didn't even try and hide my location,(which I could have very easily done)I even posted that I do not live in Apple Valley.
Number 2 : Are you that dense that you can't see that what you refer to as "the both of you" have little care for the truth!??? Why in the world do you think that Who and I bothered to post here!!?? Duh...it's because both of us are truth seekers! Fuck the bullshitters, whiners, miscreants and delusional liars. We see through all that smoke and mirrors, propaganda, all in the name of religion, pious self righteousness, and indignation over beliefs other than your own small minded flock of sheeples.
The truth means a great deal to ones who seek it, so take my advice Slapp as, because "the truth shall set you free."

Amen
Who re ANYONE

Adelanto, CA

#814 Dec 5, 2012
CalvaryChapelAbusedotcom wrote:
I know what happened to me and I am a witness to what happened. No way to spin me. The law is clear on the issue of child abuse.
Slappass....By the way...I don't want to be accused of taking the side of Alex's step-pa...the little I've read about him,(BOB- I guess is his name)I find him about as loathsome as you are Slapp.

I'm not on any side here between Alex and the wicked step-pa...and I will not talk shit about Alex with replies, because as of yet, he has not shown ignorance or nastiness to me like you Slapp, have.

As for this family conflict between Alex and Bob, isn't this about 20 years or more late?
Who re ANYONE

Adelanto, CA

#815 Dec 5, 2012
Slapp Who wrote:
Both you Whoes are delusional at best. LOL
Wait for the knock Who, it's coming. The law works both ways. What's good for the goose.....without hopping on plane, its done. Better start setting aside some money.......wait wait wait. I could care less what you do. In fact I will enjoy watching Alex get your butt hauled off to jail. What you are doing is criminal. Threatening Alex's family and business is against the law. Your stalking days are almost to an end.
(A lone bugle plays Taps in the echoing distance) twaa twaa twaaaaa....twa twa twaaaaaaa.... Twa twa twa..twa twa twa.. Twa twa twaaa..........
Mike Jr. You idiot. We know.
__________

Okay, here's one for you Slapp...you claim to be knowledgeable about the law...so, try and explain how in the hell has Who broken any laws?? What has Who done that you deem to be "criminal acts"?? Where has Who threatened Alex's family and business??
You are really beyond delusional with your accusations that are all a figment of your imagination. Even if there is someone else who has done what you claim is criminal acts against Alex, you are so full of shit in thinking that some keyboard junkie will be facing arrest and being prosecuted! LOL!!~! That I will bank on. That's never going to happen in your wildest fucking dreams.
You will be eating your words I can guarantee that. As I wrote earlier, the truth shall set you free.
Amen~
CalvaryChapelAbu sedotcom

Caldwell, ID

#816 Dec 5, 2012
who said, "but the court found those allegations false."

Untrue as usual.

The court let Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa off the hook for liability

it didn't rule on the legitimacy of the claims

again, you expose your either (you choose) intellectual dishonesty or ignorance
CalvaryChapelAbu sedotcom

Caldwell, ID

#817 Dec 5, 2012
Read the summary judgment, it didn't rule on the validity of the claims but rather let CCOF and Costa Mecca off the hook for liability

(which i disagree with and so do some very big child abuse attorneys. CCCM and CCOF now CC Association is engaged in Implied/Apparent Agency/Authority and if argued by the right attorney in the right state, i think CC loses big)
CalvaryChapelAbu sedotcom

Caldwell, ID

#818 Dec 5, 2012
the Summary Judgment actually listed as "facts" many of the allegations of the original lawsuit

unfortunately, when Mothership got let off the hook, the two small CC franchise entities were all that was left and the attorneys didn't continue the case probably due to $$$ which is unfortunate for the victims, but part of the system
CalvaryChapelAbu sedotcom

Caldwell, ID

#819 Dec 5, 2012
ANYONE, someone using the moniker from a city that that moniker posts from all the time crossed a serious line

it's a criminal complaint

it's in process

that's all you need to know and all i'll tell you
CalvaryChapelAbu sedotcom

Caldwell, ID

#820 Dec 5, 2012
time and again "who" you show what a cartoon you are with regards to credibility and reasoned thinking

you are a light-weight and a mental midget
CalvaryChapelAbu sedotcom

Caldwell, ID

#821 Dec 5, 2012
and what is especially amusing is that you seem to sincerely believe you have some skills LOL

delusion is a powerful human trait
Who

Modesto, CA

#822 Dec 5, 2012
you says
"...The court let Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa off the hook for liability it didn't rule on the legitimacy of the claims..."
Who says
This is a distinction without a difference. I'm not going to go around and around about the Idaho case with you. The point is that all you could talk about is how that Idaho CC was to have their ass handed to them, and the judge disagreed with you.
You insisted over and over that the judge was going to agree with your "agency/parliamentfunkade lic mothership connection" argument, and once again the judge disagreed with you.
Then months later you are now typing the kinds of things you typed before the judge made the decision, a decision that completely contradicted your predictions and speculations.
It's like the judge didn't reach a verdict in your corner of the universe; you are spouting like no conclusion in the Idaho case has been reached yet.
It's really quite delusional.
But once again, I'm not going to chase you around regarding the Idaho case, so go talk to the wall.
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If you want to talk about your orchestrated, coordinated hate campaign against the only family that loved you enough to raise you, then by all means, I'm all ears.
My name is Who.
Who

Modesto, CA

#823 Dec 5, 2012
Since our last posts crossed, I didn't see you use the word 'delusional.'
So I used it first.
NeenerNeenerNeener.
Wow. So now we are calling each other delusional. How...productive!
CalvaryChapelAbu sedotcom

Caldwell, ID

#824 Dec 5, 2012
Facts of the Calvary Chapel Molestation case:

A known pedophile went to another couple of CC's and met kids through his CC youth leader position and molested them

the perp is currently in jail

kids are forever affected

CC could have done more to prevent and could care less as an organization as they still refuse to make major reforms on their own and to this day they let a CC Pastor stay in the pulpit w/o a full investigation even though the pastor's blood son says he was molested by him
CalvaryChapelAbu sedotcom

Caldwell, ID

#825 Dec 5, 2012
IMO, i guess another kid will have to get molested (and who knows, maybe there are others) before they act
Who

Modesto, CA

#826 Dec 5, 2012
you says
"...someone using the moniker from a city that that moniker posts from all the time crossed a serious line..."
Who says
But that's NOT what you said earlier...you accused ME of committing a criminal act against you and your family, and that is an extreme accusation that I take personally; I don't like being falsely accused any more than your father does.
Good thing for you I've insisted on my anonymity.
My name is Who.
Liar Who Lies

Visalia, CA

#827 Dec 5, 2012
It does fit the bill Alex but the guy you are trying to prove it to will never agree. He is bobs man. You could show him a video of bob molesting children and he would tell you that they are better off.
This guy is a sick loser. No redeeming qualities. He defends child molesters and laughs at the victims calling them liars.

There's a dip pit in hell for you Who and your digging for the bottom with a smile. I'd like to say I'd pray for you but I can't.

Burn in hell Who, soon I hope, burn in hell.

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