Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: North Port Sun

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#5388 Feb 17, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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That is not many miles for a full time driver unless you were doing city deliveries
Big rig is not a legal term
Yes deaths are higher in trucks as the weight adds to the energy in a collision
But the number of accidents by commercial drivers per mile is less
What the hell gave you that idea ?
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#5389 Feb 17, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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Really? There’s a large discrepancy from what you claim and reality. There’s also a discrepancy between the charts.
Your charts indicates Bush generated more debt than Obama. That’s not true. Under Obama the debt has grown more in 4 years than it did in Bush’s 8 years.
The second chart does indeed show debt as a percentage of GDP. It shows on thing and attempts to play what-if on another.
Their claim is if the Republicans balanced their budget the debt would be near 0 percent of GDP and Obama would increase that to 30% of GDP. Their graph shows a great increase after Obama took office. Currently around 110% of GDP.
The Democrats claim we don’t have a debt problem, they claim we have a revenue problem and refuse to increase taxes on anyone making under $400K. WTF?
Stop being hysterical ...

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#5390 Feb 17, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Funny. You keep making claims... then show nothing.
All it proves is you keep making claims.
As I said, I can't even call you a moron.... you're not sharp enough to be at that level.
Here ya go troll..........ROTFLMAO
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On post # 46912 here http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...

The moron yea claimed that the burden of proof falls on the defense even after I had posed a link from a legal law lib ray showing what everyone else knows that the burden of proof falls on the prosecution……


Here Is One wrote:
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Please post a link that shows that???
Would you like the link again that proves you wrong???
Burden of proof is on the prosecution.........
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conlawcrimproc_p ...

Moron Yea wrote:

lol! Nope. Don't need to son.

That's the defense's job. Even a dumb person would know that!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#5391 Feb 17, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! Well son. So far you've proven you're not intelligent enough to even be called a moron.
Really????

Look who claimed this lie........LOL

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On post # 46912 here http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...

The moron yea claimed that the burden of proof falls on the defense even after I had posed a link from a legal law lib ray showing what everyone else knows that the burden of proof falls on the prosecution……


Here Is One wrote:
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Please post a link that shows that???
Would you like the link again that proves you wrong???
Burden of proof is on the prosecution.........
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conlawcrimproc_p ...

Moron Yea wrote:

lol! Nope. Don't need to son.

That's the defense's job. Even a dumb person would know that!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#5392 Feb 17, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! Ironically, you do it all the time son! You revert to your childish schoolyard rants.
And that's your decision!
On post # 46912 here http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...

The moron yea claimed that the burden of proof falls on the defense even after I had posed a link from a legal law lib ray showing what everyone else knows that the burden of proof falls on the prosecution……


Here Is One wrote:
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Please post a link that shows that???
Would you like the link again that proves you wrong???
Burden of proof is on the prosecution.........
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conlawcrimproc_p ...

Moron Yea wrote:

lol! Nope. Don't need to son.

That's the defense's job. Even a dumb person would know that!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#5393 Feb 17, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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I’m not a professional driver. When I was in Georgia our assets were spread out. Most of my work was in Georgia but still had to travel to our Florida locations as well. Frequent long trips add up quickly.
Yes, the increases mass of the larger vehicle would indeed be a contributing factor. All the more reason to be certain the driver’s mind is on the road and not everything else in the world.
NHTSA has the figure at 1.1 per million miles for large trucks and 1.3 per million miles for cars.
Ok for them to eat a hamburger and drink coffee driving and that causes far more accidents than a radio or phone....

Not accidents..........
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#5394 Feb 17, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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No, the laws should be for both.
Let’s not shift all the blame to the drivers off cars. Over and over I’ve seen trucks tailgate both cars and other trucks with less than 20 feet.
One afternoon in Atlanta I had a bozo driving a semi join me in my lane to pass someone. I was in the process of passing him. Here comes to good part, he wasn’t allowed in the far left lane. Too bad a cop didn’t see that. Then the ass flipped me off. Come on, don’t try to paint truckers as innocent victims.
The number one cause for traffic accidents is distraction. The second most common is fatigue. Don’t attempt to defend cell usage. There is no data which will back your POV on that.
That I don't know. But what I do know is trucks and driving. I never meant that all truck drivers are good drivers. In fact, right now, we have a ton of foreigners driving trucks today; mostly container and flatbed trucks. They work for next to nothing and don't mind being on the road for weeks at a time. Then there are what I call non-professional drivers. Many of these people have careers that they can't find work in, so they get a license and drive trucks temporarily. Think of it similar to your bad driving friends getting behind the wheel of a truck.

But that doesn't negate the fact that people in cars cause truck accidents. For instance, if I'm backing into a dock off a main street, and some idiot decides he's not going to wait and try to cut behind me, I get cited for the accident. Or what happens all the time is when you're coming up to a traffic jam, and while you're slowing down for the stop, some jerk off decides he's going to switch to your lane and slam on the breaks. I can't stop a 70,000 pound vehicle like you can stop a car. Then of course, I get cited because I was following too close.

I got stopped by a cop a few years ago. He and his buddy were in the middle of the highway having a BS session. The guy in front of me seen the cops and wasn't paying attention that he was within the speed limit, but seeing the cop, he hits his breaks. I didn't want to slam on the breaks so I didn't get rear-ended, so I applied the breaks safely to slow down my vehicle, but that cut off my safety distance. The cop seen how close I was to the vehicle in front of me and puled me over.

I explained what happened and he understood, so he only wrote me a warning. But this kind of stuff goes on all the time, and it's easy to see how it could lead to accidents where the truck driver is considered at fault.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#5395 Feb 17, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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I know exactly what the Nextel does. Really isn’t Nextel anymore, is it? Sprint bought them out. AT&T and some others also have PTT.
So you hold the button down on your steering wheel as you are driving and talking..........LOL

Maybe in a car where the wheel turns one full turn

But in a truck the wheel may turn up to five times for lock to lock turn
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#5396 Feb 17, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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So you hold the button down on your steering wheel as you are driving and talking..........LOL
Maybe in a car where the wheel turns one full turn
But in a truck the wheel may turn up to five times for lock to lock turn
Our newer straight trucks have that feature, and the drivers love it. It's way less distracting than those ear pieces. Before the new law, you would have to not communicate during the turn because as you said, you have to make several turns with the steering wheel, and holding down that button on the Nextel while turning is no different than holding down a button on the steering wheel.

But the law is stupid. What's the difference between holding down the button on my Nextel and holding down the button on my CB microphone? They still let you talk on the CB while driving. The suggestions I offered would limit more accidents than cell phone "Nextel" laws.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#5397 Feb 17, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Our newer straight trucks have that feature, and the drivers love it. It's way less distracting than those ear pieces. Before the new law, you would have to not communicate during the turn because as you said, you have to make several turns with the steering wheel, and holding down that button on the Nextel while turning is no different than holding down a button on the steering wheel.
But the law is stupid. What's the difference between holding down the button on my Nextel and holding down the button on my CB microphone? They still let you talk on the CB while driving. The suggestions I offered would limit more accidents than cell phone "Nextel" laws.
Correct..........I agree 100% with you.......

Why can a cop talk on a cell phone but a delivery driver can't??

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#5398 Feb 17, 2013
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>What the hell gave you that idea ?
What point would you like me to back up for you??

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#5399 Feb 17, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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What point would you like me to back up for you??
There is a roll over of a semi about every two minutes in this country.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5401 Feb 17, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Funny. You people always make a claim without support.... as if you expect others to take your word as some sort of truth.
Here is YOUR post: http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...

Here Is One said: "Please post a link that shows that???
Would you like the link again that proves you wrong???
Burden of proof is on the prosecution.........
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conlawcrimproc_p... ;

Your reply was: "lol! Nope. Don't need to son.
That's the defense's job. Even a dumb person would know that!"

In other words, you claim it is the defense's job to prove innocence, then you turn around in this thread and say that it was "Here Is One's" claim. THAT makes you a LIAR!!! And it is not the first time you have done it either. Now as gently and kindly as I can say it........GO FUCK YOURSELF!

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#5402 Feb 17, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Here is YOUR post: http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...
Here Is One said: "Please post a link that shows that???
Would you like the link again that proves you wrong???
Burden of proof is on the prosecution.........
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conlawcrimproc_p... ;
Your reply was: "lol! Nope. Don't need to son.
That's the defense's job. Even a dumb person would know that!"
In other words, you claim it is the defense's job to prove innocence, then you turn around in this thread and say that it was "Here Is One's" claim. THAT makes you a LIAR!!! And it is not the first time you have done it either. Now as gently and kindly as I can say it........GO FUCK YOURSELF!
Ditto !

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5403 Feb 17, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
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I have several friends I refuse to ride with. Usually I just tell them I’m not in the mood to fold up into their car. I have a big 4 door F-250. Being a King Ranch it’s also very comfortable inside. I’m not about to be so rude to tell them they drive like fools. I’ve done that just once to a friend in Atlanta. He doesn’t pay attention, he’s constantly on the phone and drives a BMW 7 series. Bad mix.
Yep.

I concur with the ride in the Ford. I have an '04 F-150 XLT, and we usually take it on road trips because it rides so much better than the wife's Pontiac. What sucks is the gas mileage from the 5.4L. Best I ever got was 18mpg. My brother has the F-250 Lariat and he only gets about 13mpg (4x4).
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#5404 Feb 17, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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Here ya go troll..........ROTFLMAO
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On post # 46912 here http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...
The moron yea claimed that the burden of proof falls on the defense even after I had posed a link from a legal law lib ray showing what everyone else knows that the burden of proof falls on the prosecution……
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Please post a link that shows that???
Would you like the link again that proves you wrong???
Burden of proof is on the prosecution.........
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conlawcrimproc_p ...
Moron Yea wrote:
lol! Nope. Don't need to son.
That's the defense's job. Even a dumb person would know that!
lol! Still missing that law aren't you son?
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#5406 Feb 17, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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On post # 46912 here http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...
The moron yea claimed that the burden of proof falls on the defense even after I had posed a link from a legal law lib ray showing what everyone else knows that the burden of proof falls on the prosecution……
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Please post a link that shows that???
Would you like the link again that proves you wrong???
Burden of proof is on the prosecution.........
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conlawcrimproc_p ...
Moron Yea wrote:
lol! Nope. Don't need to son.
That's the defense's job. Even a dumb person would know that!
ROTFLMAO!

Well by golly! Your links DON'T WORK!!!!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#5407 Feb 17, 2013
Armed Veteran wrote:
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Here is YOUR post: http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...
Here Is One said: "Please post a link that shows that???
Would you like the link again that proves you wrong???
Burden of proof is on the prosecution.........
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conlawcrimproc_p... ;
Your reply was: "lol! Nope. Don't need to son.
That's the defense's job. Even a dumb person would know that!"
In other words, you claim it is the defense's job to prove innocence, then you turn around in this thread and say that it was "Here Is One's" claim. THAT makes you a LIAR!!! And it is not the first time you have done it either. Now as gently and kindly as I can say it........GO FUCK YOURSELF!
LOL! How could you have possibly read a link that doesn't work son?

You guys are a laugh a minute!

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#5412 Feb 17, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! How could you have possibly read a link that doesn't work son?
You guys are a laugh a minute!
Click on the link back to the original post, moron.

Here, I will hold your hand since you obviously need the extra help (not surprised for a simpleton such as yourself) and copy-paste from the link:

"The requirement that the prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt every element of a crime in order to convict a defendant is no exception. The burden of proof imposed on the prosecution and the presumption of innocence granted every defendant are based on the "Due Process" Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments."

Now GFY!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#5413 Feb 17, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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On post # 46912 here http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TKPEED...
The moron yea claimed that the burden of proof falls on the defense even after I had posed a link from a legal law lib ray showing what everyone else knows that the burden of proof falls on the prosecution……
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Please post a link that shows that???
Would you like the link again that proves you wrong???
Burden of proof is on the prosecution.........
http://nationalparalegal.edu/conlawcrimproc_p ...
Moron Yea wrote:
lol! Nope. Don't need to son.
That's the defense's job. Even a dumb person would know that!
lol! Let me help you out son... from your own "7 month" course site....

"Terms:

Res judicata:
The doctrine of res judicata bars claims that have either been litigated or that could have been litigated from being litigated again.

Collateral estoppel:
The doctrine of collateral estoppel bars issues that have been litigated from being litigated again.

Affirmative defense:
An affirmative defense is a defense asserted by the defendant that essentially says,“even if all of the facts in the complaint are correct, I’m still not liable for a different reason.” Examples of affirmative defenses are res judicata, collateral estoppel, laches and statutes of limitation."

Also.....

http://nationalparalegal.edu/public_documents...

"...Please note that the jurisdictions that allow voluntary intoxication as a defense to specific intent crimes make this an affirmative defense. Therefore, the burden of proof is on the defendant to prove that he was so intoxicated that he did not have the requisite intent necessary to be convicted...."

So yes my little dumb-dumbs. Even YOUR site understands that the "burden of proof" is on the defense. You idiots just don't understand how it works.

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