Area gun sales, fears rising

Nov 14, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: North Port Sun

Gun stores in Charlotte County have experienced increased sales since Election Day as local gun owners brace for an anticipated restriction of gun laws following the re-election of President Barack Obama.

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Feb 9, 2013
 
sickofit wrote:
<quoted text>I am some concerned and dont want any bans on any hand held weapon. Just dont know how someone having hundreds of thousands of rounds will change anything.

Can I ask you a simple question and get a simple answer? Here it goes.

How do you feel about our drug laws in the USA? Should there be drugs that are illegal?
Those military style weapons you mentioned are hand held.

A lot of someones having hundreds of thousands of rounds (aka, a militia) will change a lot whether you know about it or not. More than likely without ever having to fire a shot.

Some drugs do need to be illegal. I know where you are going with that, but firearms are not mind altering.
In addition, take a look at how successful the ban on drugs has been. And drugs are not a constitutional right.

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sickofit wrote:
<quoted text>What does it tell me? Why would people buy up ammo rounds that no one has said would be banned or restricted?

If they banned lets say tomatoes why would you buy up peppers....Doesnt make sense. All it has done is hurt those of us who only buy what we need. Box of 30-06 have went through the roof...why??
You tell me. What does it tell you?

Your analogy doesn't make sense, you are comparing fruit to peppers, pun intended.
Oh, it's done more than that. Smile! It stimulated the economy. If you shoot 30 06 and vote Democrat, you should have seen the writing on the wall. You should have bought a couple of extra boxes. No sympathy here.

Why? It's called supply and demand.
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Those military style weapons you mentioned are hand held.
A lot of someones having hundreds of thousands of rounds (aka, a militia) will change a lot whether you know about it or not. More than likely without ever having to fire a shot.
Some drugs do need to be illegal. I know where you are going with that, but firearms are not mind altering.
In addition, take a look at how successful the ban on drugs has been. And drugs are not a constitutional right.
Yes I know and agree they should not be banned. Just dont see why ammo for caliber of guns not even close to that style has gone through the roof in price...

You did skip around it. Should lets say marijuana be legal or illegal?

I dont want any bans. Just trying to understand why people who are as adamant about it as you lets say are ok with banning other things people have rights to but not guns....

Oh and I know a few guys when they hold a gun there mind de-evolves into killer savages.
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You tell me. What does it tell you?
Your analogy doesn't make sense, you are comparing fruit to peppers, pun intended.
Oh, it's done more than that. Smile! It stimulated the economy. If you shoot 30 06 and vote Democrat, you should have seen the writing on the wall. You should have bought a couple of extra boxes. No sympathy here.
Why? It's called supply and demand.
I dont vote Democrat. I am a Libertarian voter. I did not see why caliber of rounds not in these so called military style weapons would go up...Still dont.

Thing is my second cousin works for a company that makes ammo. He has said even as people scream about shortage of ammo they have made no more and have not even worked extra hour. This seems like some sort of scam for companies to jack up prices.

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<quoted text>Yes I know and agree they should not be banned. Just dont see why ammo for caliber of guns not even close to that style has gone through the roof in price...

You did skip around it. Should lets say marijuana be legal or illegal?

I dont want any bans. Just trying to understand why people who are as adamant about it as you lets say are ok with banning other things people have rights to but not guns....

Oh and I know a few guys when they hold a gun there mind de-evolves into killer savages.
Lol. Not all military style weapons are .223 caliber. Do you know how many M1 Garands there are out there? Do you know what ammo it fires?
In addition, AR style firearms are now made in numerous popular calibers that you mentioned. It's not the caliber that is being banned, it's the style of weapon, regardless of caliber.

I didn't skip around the question. This was not your original question. IMO, marijuana should be legal. I see little difference between it and alcohol from an impairment standpoint. Crack, Heroin, PCP... That's a different story.

I see where you are coming from, and my answer is this. The founding fathers came here to escape tyranny. They saw what happened in their country before coming here. They saw, through history, it is inevitable in any country with the same form of government they had previously. They chose to break the cycle. The one thing they knew was paramount to liberty and freedom, was the right of the people to keep and bear arms. They were so unwilling to compromise that right, they added the phrase,"shall not be infringed".
No other right is protected by that phrase. Only the right to keep and bear arms is.

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<quoted text>Because where there is smoke, there is fire. A dog doesn't bark at a parked car.

If you read Mrs. Feinstein's bill, she wants to ban all semi-automatic guns. I would say there is reason to be concerned.
Now only a revolver??

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I am some concerned and dont want any bans on any hand held weapon. Just dont know how someone having hundreds of thousands of rounds will change anything.
Can I ask you a simple question and get a simple answer? Here it goes.
How do you feel about our drug laws in the USA? Should there be drugs that are illegal?
I'm okay with pot being legal but it's likely that when it gets to the Supreme Court, they will reverse the legalization of states that have passed the law.

Years ago, our leaders signed a UN treaty with all the other countries that forbids us to make recreational narcotics legal, so look for that in the future.

As for the other stuff, I'm for keeping it illegal. I've witnessed and experienced too many hardships because of cocaine and heroin. I've seen people die over it and have been screwed out of rent a few times along with extensive damages to my apartments. There is nothing good about the stuff.

Plus the fact we are supporting too many loafers as it is. People on harsh narcotics can't work, so they sit around night and day waiting and looking for their next fix. I don't need these people on our welfare roles.

I used to eat Twinkies as my regular snack. Before the trouble came around, they were trying to encourage people to buy Hostess products. But it seemed like I was the only one that ever bought boxes of Twinkies. If I took four boxes off the shelf, those spaces would still be there the next week I went shopping. Then when they announced the closedown, all those boxes of Twinkies flew off the shelf in a matter of hours.

That's what's happening with our ammo today. Remember that we have a President with a dictator mentality, so of course people don't know what he's going to be up to next. He is forcing us to have healthcare coverage, closed down all the roll-your-own smoke shops across the country. He's tried to close down Gibson Guitars and Boeing because of his union friends; maybe not directly, but certainly he played a part in all that.

So why would it be so unusual for us to be paranoid about our guns? When he wants to get around Congress, he just makes an executive order out of his desires, and I have the words of Joe Biden as proof.

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<quoted text>I dont vote Democrat. I am a Libertarian voter. I did not see why caliber of rounds not in these so called military style weapons would go up...Still dont.

Thing is my second cousin works for a company that makes ammo. He has said even as people scream about shortage of ammo they have made no more and have not even worked extra hour. This seems like some sort of scam for companies to jack up prices.
Good to know. I think our posts crossed paths, you were typing this post before I addressed the caliber question.

Again, supply and demand. The government was purchasing millions of rounds of popular calibers prior to all this. That caused shortages and price increases as well. That's what I would be asking why about.
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Good to know. I think our posts crossed paths, you were typing this post before I addressed the caliber question.
Again, supply and demand. The government was purchasing millions of rounds of popular calibers prior to all this. That caused shortages and price increases as well. That's what I would be asking why about.
Still dont get why ammo manufacters have stayed at standard op time and not ramped up production...that is issue I dont get...You know why??

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<quoted text>I'm okay with pot being legal but it's likely that when it gets to the Supreme Court, they will reverse the legalization of states that have passed the law.

Years ago, our leaders signed a UN treaty with all the other countries that forbids us to make recreational narcotics legal, so look for that in the future.

As for the other stuff, I'm for keeping it illegal. I've witnessed and experienced too many hardships because of cocaine and heroin. I've seen people die over it and have been screwed out of rent a few times along with extensive damages to my apartments. There is nothing good about the stuff.

Plus the fact we are supporting too many loafers as it is. People on harsh narcotics can't work, so they sit around night and day waiting and looking for their next fix. I don't need these people on our welfare roles.

I used to eat Twinkies as my regular snack. Before the trouble came around, they were trying to encourage people to buy Hostess products. But it seemed like I was the only one that ever bought boxes of Twinkies. If I took four boxes off the shelf, those spaces would still be there the next week I went shopping. Then when they announced the closedown, all those boxes of Twinkies flew off the shelf in a matter of hours.

That's what's happening with our ammo today. Remember that we have a President with a dictator mentality, so of course people don't know what he's going to be up to next. He is forcing us to have healthcare coverage, closed down all the roll-your-own smoke shops across the country. He's tried to close down Gibson Guitars and Boeing because of his union friends; maybe not directly, but certainly he played a part in all that.

So why would it be so unusual for us to be paranoid about our guns? When he wants to get around Congress, he just makes an executive order out of his desires, and I have the words of Joe Biden as proof.
You bring up a great point about the UN Treaty.
Considering that George Washington grew Cannabis, it is quite likely that banning Cannabis is no more constitutional than prohibition was.

Since it has been stated that Treaties can not supersede the constitution, will the SCOTUS rule honestly on the subject?
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You bring up a great point about the UN Treaty.
Considering that George Washington grew Cannabis, it is quite likely that banning Cannabis is no more constitutional than prohibition was.
Since it has been stated that Treaties can not supersede the constitution, will the SCOTUS rule honestly on the subject?
To me any "prohibition" no matter the product or sbject matter is UNCONSTITUTIONAL...
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Still dont get why ammo manufacters have stayed at standard op time and not ramped up production...that is issue I dont get...You know why??
You don't know that's the case for all ammunition manufacturers--only the place your second cousin works at. Maybe they can't get the shell material fast enough to make more ammunition. Who knows?
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You bring up a great point about the UN Treaty.
Considering that George Washington grew Cannabis, it is quite likely that banning Cannabis is no more constitutional than prohibition was.
Since it has been stated that Treaties can not supersede the constitution, will the SCOTUS rule honestly on the subject?
I question what part of the Constitution you feel they are violating? You know how that goes. They can get away with just about anything under the Commerce Clause.
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You don't know that's the case for all ammunition manufacturers--only the place your second cousin works at. Maybe they can't get the shell material fast enough to make more ammunition. Who knows?
He works for Winchester. I mean one of biggest ammo makers. And if they dont ramp up most others are not I would assume. I had asked him if they were short of material he said no. Warehouse full he said....Dont make sense. To me that is the bigger potential scandal then gun bans. Is the government making these companies NOt produce more?? If so that is to me a great evil and unconstitution attack on our society.

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<quoted text>Still dont get why ammo manufacters have stayed at standard op time and not ramped up production...that is issue I dont get...You know why??
Because as long as people need their ammo, those people will continue pressuring their congressmen to oppose further gun control that could put gun and ammo manufacturers out of business.
If people have enough ammo stockpiled, there comes a point when they stop talking about it and start acting upon preserving the constitution, namely the second amendment.

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<quoted text>To me any "prohibition" no matter the product or sbject matter is UNCONSTITUTIONAL...
In a perfect world, you would be right. But in that perfect world, the guy that wants to use crack does. Then he stops being a productive member of society. He loses his job. In that perfect world, I don't have to support him with my tax contributions. But because there's no free hand outs, he turns to crime to support his addiction. In the commission of his crimes, due to the perfect world, his victim is armed and takes the crack addict out of the gene pool. Eventually, addictive personalities are eliminated completely.

But that's not the world we live in.
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Because as long as people need their ammo, those people will continue pressuring their congressmen to oppose further gun control that could put gun and ammo manufacturers out of business.
If people have enough ammo stockpiled, there comes a point when they stop talking about it and start acting upon preserving the constitution, namely the second amendment.
Still doenst make sense why companies are not ramping up production or working any overtime at all to make more ammo. That to me is the biggest and most scary part of this. Is our government telling them not to or are they simply not making more so they can charge more?? Either way is wrong and underhanded.
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In a perfect world, you would be right. But in that perfect world, the guy that wants to use crack does. Then he stops being a productive member of society. He loses his job. In that perfect world, I don't have to support him with my tax contributions. But because there's no free hand outs, he turns to crime to support his addiction. In the commission of his crimes, due to the perfect world, his victim is armed and takes the crack addict out of the gene pool. Eventually, addictive personalities are eliminated completely.
But that's not the world we live in.
So you do want government to cotnrol some peoples lives then?? How is that FREEDOM?

I just dont see how any conservative could be for any kind of prohibition... It goes againt the Constitution big time....As a Libertarian ANY prohibtion is illegal and affront to the Constitution..

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<quoted text>I question what part of the Constitution you feel they are violating? You know how that goes. They can get away with just about anything under the Commerce Clause.
Lol, I would think that would fall under the pursuit of happiness.
You are right about the Commerce Clause!
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Then they do like I did and just move their assets out of the USA
OOOPs let's not forget that liberals like these did the same
Gates
Jobs
Oprah
Siebel
Your hatred of Obama is both hysterical and pathetic; clearly you know nothing of managing wealth in a global economy. Bill Gates’ net worth is estimated at $68.7 billion and the richest man on the planet even after donating $30 million in various charities his net worth increases by around $7 billion yearly. 90% of Gates’ investment is in Microsoft, the rest is government and corporate bonds and he has no foreign investment – yemoron!
Warren Buffet is number two and they run a Foundation with $40 billion in assets and donate to causes aimed at bringing financial tools to the poor, speeding up the development of vaccines (for AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis), bettering America's lagging high schools. They good corporate neighbors and citizens unlike a-holes like you and the rest of your rightwing ilk!
The wealthiest 400 Americans are worth $1.7 trillion and growing, roughly the GDP of Canada, they are really hurting under Obama – yefriggenmoron!
To put this in perspective for imbeciles like you, the average income of a top-400 earner grew by 650% between 1992 and 2007 to a whopping $344 million. Over that time, the average salary didn't even double. But the average capital gains haul increased by 1,200%. So how do the richest get richer? Not from their wages but from their investments right here in the good old US of A!

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