North Korea Gives Glimpse of Rural Life

North Korea is peeling back its self-imposed veil of isolation, allowing tourists a rare glimpse of the hardscrabble rural life en route to a new hiking trail that opened this month at the South Korean-run ... Full Story
vaaiga

Brisbane, Australia

#1 Jun 18, 2007
THIS STINKS
Kermit

UK

#2 Jun 19, 2007
The farms in the article sound a lot like the show farms that other tourists see, if they go in from Beijing. No reports of starving kids in muddy markets, or people picking through weeds for scraps of food. They may appear to be opening up, but that doesn't mean they're still not showing you what they want you to see.
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#3 Jun 19, 2007
Kermit wrote:
The farms in the article sound a lot like the show farms that other tourists see, if they go in from Beijing. No reports of starving kids in muddy markets, or people picking through weeds for scraps of food. They may appear to be opening up, but that doesn't mean they're still not showing you what they want you to see.
The doors will be wide open in a year. Remember it's going to be a major transit route that'll save billions, so of course they'll pave it with money and drive right on thru

Since: Dec 06

Apo, AP

#4 Jun 19, 2007
Bob Burns wrote:
<quoted text>The doors will be wide open in a year. Remember it's going to be a major transit route that'll save billions, so of course they'll pave it with money and drive right on thru
You are overly optimistic.
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#5 Jun 19, 2007
Boom Blatz wrote:
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You are overly optimistic.
I try not to be optimistic or pessimistic but realistic. I try to look below the surface to observe the underlying forces at work

Since: Dec 06

Apo, AP

#6 Jun 20, 2007
Bob Burns wrote:
<quoted text>I try not to be optimistic or pessimistic but realistic. I try to look below the surface to observe the underlying forces at work
I would love to hear your analysis of why other nations would use the route. Perhaps you are right.
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#8 Jun 20, 2007
Boom Blatz wrote:
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I would love to hear your analysis of why other nations would use the route. Perhaps you are right.
Check your map. SK puts goods on train and sends to China, Russia, Europe for a fraction of ocean shipping. Goods and raw materials the other way too. Same with Japan

Since: Dec 06

Apo, AP

#9 Jun 21, 2007
That is too simplistic. I will keep my rebuttal equally simplistic.
First you have to deal with the international backlash of doing anything that will benefit and sustain the current DPRK regime.
Also, Japan is the big loser of an overland route. Don't expect them to stand by and let it happen.
Next, if you send a hundred crates from the South, you can almost be guaranteed that only 75 crates enter China.
Although I agree that the market has done more to ultimately shape governments in the world than war has, North Korea is at least 10, and maybe 15-20, years from what you suggest.
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#10 Jun 21, 2007
Boom Blatz wrote:
That is too simplistic. I will keep my rebuttal equally simplistic.
First you have to deal with the international backlash of doing anything that will benefit and sustain the current DPRK regime.
Also, Japan is the big loser of an overland route. Don't expect them to stand by and let it happen.
Next, if you send a hundred crates from the South, you can almost be guaranteed that only 75 crates enter China.
Although I agree that the market has done more to ultimately shape governments in the world than war has, North Korea is at least 10, and maybe 15-20, years from what you suggest.
OK. Simple. NK will be bought out, like a bankrupt firm, and the leader given a golden handshake and sent on his way, on doubt to a villa in the caribbean

Since: Dec 06

Apo, AP

#11 Jun 21, 2007
Bob Burns wrote:
<quoted text>OK. Simple. NK will be bought out, like a bankrupt firm, and the leader given a golden handshake and sent on his way, on doubt to a villa in the caribbean
I think you misread his motivation. He has the ability to do that on his own. he is certainly not lacking money.
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#13 Jun 21, 2007
Boom Blatz wrote:
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I think you misread his motivation. He has the ability to do that on his own. he is certainly not lacking money.
Money no good frozen. He made a big fuss over 25M I think he's ready to cut a deal
Sarcasm

Mount Laurel, NJ

#14 Oct 2, 2007
Must have been a path build for a movie scene..

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