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Daycare shut down after taping babies' mouths shut

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#425
Sep 28, 2007
 
Ginger Balley wrote:
This is why you women need to quit wanting everything and stay home with your babies. Nobody loves your kids like you do. Next let me say just cause you give birth that doesn't make you a mother. Loving your kids with all your heart makes you a mother. If you have to work then get a friend or grandmother or aunt to watch your kids. Someone who loves them and isn't doing it for the money. Daycares are awful. I don't care how nice they seem or who works there. There is always someone there cause they think it will be easier than fast food.
Don't you dare tell me I don't love my child with all my heart just because I go to work everyday! Not all of us have the luxury of being able to stay home with our children or have a friend or family member able to keep them when we do work. I do want things and that is why I work...I want things like electricity, water, food, etc. I am glad you have the perfect life and can stay home with your baby but don't you dare condemn me because I have to work for what I get.

Not all daycare centers are horrible places. My son is in daycare and I love everyone that works with him. I know he is taken care of and I know when I drop him off I do not have to worry about him. It is a matter of doing your homework when you have no other choice. If you have stayed home with your children and never experienced daycare then how can you say all daycares are awful?
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#426
Sep 28, 2007
 
strawberry plains wrote:
<quoted text>Children should not comment on things that they are to immature to understand or to stupid to understand.2
How old are you...10? You're calling me a stupid child because my opinion differs from yours? I stated my opinion respectfully, something you obviously know nothing about.
Nunya

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#427
Sep 28, 2007
 
HEY ASTONISHED, THIS IS FOR YOU FOOL..

First of all....I dont know who you think you are...and you obviously wrote this because you wanted attention........you knew that your little post would make people mad and get people going (just like you have me)
I am a stay at home mother. I never put down working moms. I give them hats off. I stay at home with my 3 children because if I did work I would be giving my ENTIRE paycheck to daycare providers. Not only do I stay at home for that reason, but I also stay home because I dont trust daycare workers. Ive heard way too many stories. I dont want to take a chance on someone taping a pacifier to my babies mouth....or someone letting my baby get out of the center and walk down a busy road...I could go on and on.
How dare you say that being a stay at home mom/wife is not a job. Have you ever did it? My husband works long and hard to support his family, so that means 12 hours a day I am here in house with 3 children. I have no social life, I'm lonely and my daily conversations are mostly about "why do farts stink and Sponge Bob Square Pants"..........You wouldnt know how mentally difficult that is because you have never did it before. Its very isolating!!! Second...have you ever or do you do the following: Get up at 6:30am, fix your 3 children a hot meal, get all three of them dressed, change your two year olds diaper, make sure homework is in backpacks, make sure your kids have their backpacks, load all 3 into the car, drive 2 of them to school, come home and take a 2 year old to the potty every 30 minutes so you can get her trained, clean up poop off of all the furniture you own because your 2 year old isnt potty trained yet, clean your house on a daily basis, and I mean scrub tubs, mop, sweep, vaccum, dust, clean glass,laundry, scrub toilets and when thats all done, do you go and pick up your 2 school aged children, come home start homework with BOTH of them, while cooking dinner and dealing with your 2 year old throwing a tantrum in the middle of the kitchen floor, after dinner do you give 3 kids a bath, lay out their school clothes, help them brush their teeth, read to them, put them to bed.......and then.....start cleaning the mess that they made when they came home from school that you had already cleaned up before they even got home????? DO YOU DO ANY OF THIS? HAVE YOU EVER DID ANY OF THIS?? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVENT THEN YOU SHOULD TRY IT BEFORE YOU SAY HORRIBLE THINGS ABOUT MOTHERS WHO STAY AT HOME WITH THEIR CHILDREN!!!
As for moms who sit on their asses and eat bon bons...well let me tell you......thats not me, and thats not a majority of stay at home moms. You shouldnt sterotype stay at home moms if you have never lived in their shoes or never even met one. Oh and if you have met one and it was a "bad stay at home mom"......dont let that influence you to judge all stay at home moms as women who sit on their asses and eat bon bons..........thats ridiculous.
Youre just a jerk or some b*t*h who doesnt have a clue. I can promise you that being a stay at home mom is harder than SOME jobs out there. Its physically and mentally stressful. Until youve tried it dont knock it pal........and stop sterotyping stay at home moms based off of one bad stay at home mom........I'll tell you right now I am NONE of the things you mentioned in your post. I am a hard working, loving, caring mother, and a loving, caring honest wife.....I dont look at porn....I dont cheat on my husband or chat it up in chatrooms on the internet... and I certainly dont have time to even glance at daytime tv...I'm lucky if I catch the news.......which brings me here to WBIR.com because I dont ever get time to watch the news when its on. I have to read it, when I get a minute to myself.
pamela cadwallader

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#428
Sep 28, 2007
 
i worked there in 96,97,98 .my child was in her care and i was at the infant center i would go pick up my 5 and 4 yr old children and my son 4 yrs old would be in a high chair sitting in a corner.com e to find out that had been happening alot .well thta day was the last day i worked there and the last my children went there. she was over child ratios alot . i would have to leave my classroom to cook there food mind you they were left alone while i did this. i am sooo surprised she has not been shut down before this . and them being a three star daycare now thats a joke!!!!!!

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Seymour, TN

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#429
Sep 28, 2007
 
i cant believe the mother is acting as if she doesnt even care !!! what is wrong with her
pamela cadwallader

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#430
Sep 28, 2007
 
if it was me i would get justice.It was a human life thats involved.
Bob

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#431
Sep 28, 2007
 
pamela cadwallader wrote:
i worked there in 96,97,98 .my child was in her care and i was at the infant center i would go pick up my 5 and 4 yr old children and my son 4 yrs old would be in a high chair sitting in a corner.com e to find out that had been happening alot .well thta day was the last day i worked there and the last my children went there. she was over child ratios alot . i would have to leave my classroom to cook there food mind you they were left alone while i did this. i am sooo surprised she has not been shut down before this . and them being a three star daycare now thats a joke!!!!!!
Things like you observed should have been reported to DCS. There is no telling how many children were abused. It seems they were running it like a kennel and not a day care. I guess people like the mother of this child was just happy to get away from her child for a few hours a day, you can tell that by her attitude,
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#432
Sep 28, 2007
 
I think it is disgusting that anyone would do this to a child. We are good christian people so we will pray that the 2 workers dont get the crap beat out of them when they go to prison. Although we are christians I have to say this is one time I would loose my christianity and pray that GOD will forgive me later. I think the mother of the child has lost her mind for defending the day care. These are GODS children that is why he made parents to defend their CHILD.
Fed Up

Knoxville, TN

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#433
Sep 28, 2007
 
Nunya, you said it!
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#434
Sep 28, 2007
 
I just believe that L Headlee does a wonderful job as a producer for WBIR and all her associates. Good Job You All and keep the info coming. L I am very very proud of you
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Knoxville, TN

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#435
Sep 28, 2007
 
91MHSGrad wrote:
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ANd it may be that the owners are perfectly good people but the childcare worker they hired is the BIG one to blame. The worker should have known better. Especially to someone elses child!
You know what, any good director/owner of a daycare center will know what is going on in the rooms during the day. Maybe not every minute, but this poor baby was not taped up for one minute.
I used to work for a daycare center, in the infant rooms. I know that my director peeked her head in often. Not only did she check in to see if we needed anything (bathroom breaks, a quiet moment, or just to walk outside the room), but she would check the babies also. She knew just how many were there and just how many were in the room when she poked her head in. She could hear the babies crying from down the hall, and if one cried for too long, she would come check and see why. If she needed to, she would even help out.
I cannot understand how these two women could tape this baby's mouth and the director/owner not know. I do not understand how the parent's can stand behind her. I do not understand how this could happen in today's society. This is sick, and the director/owner is just as much as fault as the two women who worked in the infant room. It was the director/owner's responsibility to do background checks on the employees. It was her responsibility to know the people who were caring for those babies. Those babies were her responsibility and she let them and their parents down. The worker should have known better, but the owner should have known who they were hiring!!!
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#436
Sep 28, 2007
 
FACT SETTER wrote:
<quoted text>NEWS FLASH........THE ONES SAYING THEY WERE NOT THERE ARE LYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN SKIN!!!!!!!!!!They were there!
Since you are the fact setter, then I guess you were there.
CONCERNED LOCAL

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#437
Sep 28, 2007
 
You know I hear all these mothers say,"DON'T SHUT DOWN THE DAYCARE, IT WASN'T KIM'S FAULT." Do you know what I say, how many times do u leave the stove on after cooking, before your kids hands burnt up. Kim's the owner, thier a list of written offenses, and agian I remind you; she was told about kim ball several times, am I the only one who had problems with this b**ch. My nephew came home from that place with a rash on it's bottem, and again it was our fault for not listen to our hearts instead of kim. But, now we have a chance from stopping this, and making sure this will never happen again. Please be vocal, about the truth. someone knows the whole truth. Both kim's and the other worker and the mother as well should be on trail as well. Don't forget what really happened.
CC in Knoxville

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#438
Sep 28, 2007
 
I've had my own bad experiences with a day care ..My grandbaby was left alone 1X in a changing room/bathroom..She was about 8-9 months old..She was standing up on a changing table..It was about 3 to 3 & 1/2 ft off the floor..It was a tile floor..That was the last time that day care had MY grand baby!! They claim they for got her!! How the hell do you do that!!She could have been HURT BAD luckly she didn't fall!!She was standing in the corner of this table crying!! My Daughter and I raised Hell!! They acted like we were in the wrong for being Upset!!After that. My daughter went to work days the daddy worked nites and I being Gramma picked up the afternoons..One dropped her off and a few hours later the other picked her up!! This child is now 11yrs.old and hasn't seen a day Care since she was 8-9 months old!!I wish this would work for others like it has us!! Thou I'm sure there are some good Day Cares out there they are far to few for those who have to work,,I wish you the best luck in hunting them down!!
common sense

Morristown, TN

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#439
Sep 28, 2007
 
Kim Ball and Angela Day are the women involved and charged with the crimes.
common sense

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#440
Sep 28, 2007
 
John wrote:
She deserted her child to daycare for personal selfish gain. The mother (so called) is just as responsible.
"Personal Selfish Gain?" I never knew going to High School was called that. Thanks for enlightening me you uninformed, judgemental jerk.
common sense

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#441
Sep 28, 2007
 
FACT SETTER wrote:
<quoted text>kim ball did not commit the offence. shes just the poor sucker that was left holding the bag, not knowing one of the 2 that had left for the day, had left the boy in b-room. All of you that have a close relationship with God........PRAY for the truth to be revealed........we are!
That's odd, she was charged with the offense. So basically the police had enough evidence to charge her but you say she didn't do it. I guess the police and DHS are all lying, right?
common sense

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#442
Sep 28, 2007
 
It boils down to this, they are all at fault period. As an Employer, Kim T. is resposible for her employees actions. She hired them, di the background checks, reference checks and trained them. As the Employer, she is resposible for ensuring the States' policies and her business policies are being strictly followed.

As far as Kim B. and Angela G. go, they both need to to be held accountable for their poor judgement and treatment of that infant.

For those of you who "support" all these people, you are just as guilty of poor judgement as they are. Your loyalty to them is worth more than the fact that THEY abused, neglected and emotionally damaged a 4 month old child. Not to mention the risk of death they put the child in. Infants do "spit up", they cry and their noses stuff up. What if the child had aspirated on it's own spit up or suffocated due to lack of air from a stuffed up nose-BECAUSE IT HAD A PACIFIER TAPED IN IT'S MOUTH AND IT COULD NOT BE SPIT OUT.

You supporters make me sick, it's okay if they say they didn't do it. At least that's what you say. A tip led DHS there, so someone else has seen it. DHS knows they did it. The Police charged them with the crime so they know they did it too. Your loyalty to these people are apparently more important than that infants life.
Astonished

Morristown, TN

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#443
Sep 28, 2007
 
well nunya.. are you mad or something?:) the last time I checked no one forced you to make babies with your husband during a hot night of lustful, sinful fun in the sack with the lights on and the porno playing on the tv...... You do know that they make condoms and other forms of birth control don't you? why in the world would you want that many babies if you were going to fuss and complain about taking care of them. You, my lady... are a complaining parent.. oh and about how stressful your job is... pulease.... like I said.. get a real job... and let's see just how hard you work..
and your quote.... " I mean scrub tubs, mop, sweep, vaccum, dust, clean glass,laundry, scrub toilets"... do you do these chores everyday?? hmmm.. boy, your house must be clean... will you come and scrub my toilets for me everyday?? also I do believe that is vacuum instead of "vaccum"... yes m'am... you are a brazen housewife hussy... LOL! a stay at home mom who is a bad parent... the reason you are bad parent is because you complain about your children... do you not love them? Also, tell me why do farts stink?? Do you know why? Oh and as far as myself.. I am a single male and I live a life of FUN, FUN, FUN... I get to party all the time.. go out and live life... stay out as late as I want to stay and do not have to answer to anybody.. I do as I wish. I am not strapped down to some goofy looking spouse... paying tons of bills. My life is FUN FUN FUN.. I get to take frequent vacations.. I don't have to have all of the headaches in life that you incur... Why in the world would anyone want to live the life that you live? Marriage is such a waste...What benefit does it serve? I bet your husband sure is a miserable soul.. Gosh, I know I would be.. just listening to you is enough to make someone want to get a divorce.. No wonder the divorce rate is so high.. men have to always listen to bossy women and put up with them... same way the other way around.. some women have to listen to some goofy looking dude flap his trap and flex his muscles... Anyway, sweety... you are still a stay at home mom... which means.. you do not work a "real job." Go down to Hardees, I hear they are hiring... Or maybe down at Taco Bell.. oh and by the way.. I think you need marriage counseling... due to the fact you stated you were lonely and had no social life..:)
Randall

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#444
Sep 29, 2007
 
I have read mostly all of the comments everyone has posted about the day care. I feel like most of you do. The people involved should face child abuse charges, the past complaints should be made public,Some kind of background check should be made avilable via the state for a daycare before a person can be hired. As far as mothers being concerned about their childs care in what ever day care the use, then I have a SOLUTION.
If a daycare is really good, has great employees,and nothing to hide,Then we have a system that can be put in place in any daycaer center wether a in home or commercial daycare that uses video cameras that record digitally for playback of what went on that prior week if needed, that uses a water mark on the video that is allowed in court as evediance. Also the parent can from their work, open internet explorer and type in the address and their own password to the day care and see LIVE what is going on and look in on their child. So the crux of the situation is, a good daycare would have archived video of prior dates if anything should arrise, and the parent would have piece of mind being able to check in on the daycare and their child.
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