Knoxville, TN | Tenn. ranks No. 1 on list of 'Most Corrupt States'

May 19, 2010 Full story: www.wbir.com 46

Daily Beast just released their rankings on the most corrupt states in America. The site got their rankings based on data in five categories: Public corruption Racketeering and Extortion; Forgery and Counterfeiting Fraud; Embezzlement with data from 1998 - 2008.

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Loudon, TN

#1 May 19, 2010
This article should have been titled "Loudon County Tennessee ranks No.1 on list of Most Corrupt areas in the state".
Copperhead

Nashville, TN

#2 May 19, 2010
That ain't true.
Earl Keese

Knoxville, TN

#3 May 19, 2010
there's no city/county government anywhere in this country that doesn't conduct a little back room business and shady deals to friends etc.....

but around here we're not even close to being in the same league as new orleans, chicago, houston, and other places.

don't believe everything you read on the daily beast.

“Obamunism - Political Failure”

Since: Feb 08

Out here in the country

#4 May 19, 2010
That's the biggest load of crap I ever read. Notice Illinois isn't ranked? That's crap! I lived there, I know. City council seats were bought and sold. Cherry positions in Cook County we up for bid. Every livin governor they ever had is in prison, or under indictment. California isn't ranked high? BS, I'm callin' BS on this whole article.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#6 May 19, 2010
They Forgot Moonshine making....DAM!!
Utter BS

Loudon, TN

#7 May 19, 2010
Minuteman wrote:
That's the biggest load of crap I ever read. Notice Illinois isn't ranked? That's crap! I lived there, I know. City council seats were bought and sold. Cherry positions in Cook County we up for bid. Every livin governor they ever had is in prison, or under indictment. California isn't ranked high? BS, I'm callin' BS on this whole article.
I'm with you. It is utter BS. So Tennessee is more corrupt than New York. Bull Shit! If you check it out the Daily Beast is a worthless rag anyway. Like reading Star Magazine.
WhatEver

Blue Ridge, GA

#8 May 19, 2010
Where the hell is this rag printed from anyway? Never heard of it.
Copperhead

Nashville, TN

#9 May 19, 2010
james johnson wrote:
They Forgot Moonshine making....DAM!!
YEP!
Copperhead

Nashville, TN

#10 May 19, 2010
WhatEver wrote:
Where the hell is this rag printed from anyway? Never heard of it.
My guess is OHIO!....LMFAO!
LOGIC PLEASE

Knoxville, TN

#11 May 19, 2010
If Tennessee is so bad,then why does most EVERYONE want to live here?
Could it be the church based culture?
The way people live here?
OPPs,,I mean yep,corrupt place here,every where there is crime ,crime ,crime.
Stay away!!!!!!
Welcome to our world

United States

#12 May 19, 2010
The difference between here and there is that in other places the crooks are always looking over their shoulders to make sure they aren't being watched. Here, when confronted, they tell you, "That's the way it is. Live with it." Comprende?
Tennessee Boy

Knoxville, TN

#13 May 24, 2010
Bill Haslem is at the head of all this stuff.

“Obamunism - Political Failure”

Since: Feb 08

Out here in the country

#14 May 24, 2010
Tennessee Boy wrote:
Bill Haslem is at the head of all this stuff.
All what "stuff". If you got some proof of anything, lay it out. Everyone should know about it. But don't just say everybody knows, because they don't. If Somebody shows me facts of some candidate doing something wrong, I'll be against them all the way, but not just because somebody makes unproven accusations. I don't know who I'll vote for, yet, so nows your chance. Lay out your facts.
Tennessee Boy

Knoxville, TN

#15 May 24, 2010
Bill Haslem is part owner of Pilot. If you check into how that corporation is set up it will lead you to a dead end street. You will find a holding company in New York with no qualifying agent listed. The Haslem Empire consist of casinos, government housing and ties to foreign oil companies. Why do you think he refuses to disclose his source of income. People will say that Bill Haslem has nothing to do with all that but I see it different. We need an honest person running the State. Not a Pilot Corporation Board of Directors.

“Obamunism - Political Failure”

Since: Feb 08

Out here in the country

#16 May 24, 2010
Tennessee Boy wrote:
Bill Haslem is part owner of Pilot. If you check into how that corporation is set up it will lead you to a dead end street. You will find a holding company in New York with no qualifying agent listed. The Haslem Empire consist of casinos, government housing and ties to foreign oil companies. Why do you think he refuses to disclose his source of income. People will say that Bill Haslem has nothing to do with all that but I see it different. We need an honest person running the State. Not a Pilot Corporation Board of Directors.
Telling me to "check into it" is not proof of anything. If he or Pilot oil have broken any laws or have engaged in shady dealings put them up. Pilot is a privately owned corporation so they are not required to publicly disclose anything about their contracts or dealings. Jim Haslam Sr. also owns 16% of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't know if they do or not, but owning casinos, or casino stock is legal. I don't agree with gambling, but ownership of a legal enterprise is fine. If you have proof of illegal gambling, put it up here. If you think having dealings with foreign oil companies is a problem, about half of the corporations in America are in trouble. The USA does a lot of business with oil companies from many countries.

So far, you haven't said anything that would discredit them or show them to be "dishonest".
Earl Keese

Knoxville, TN

#17 May 24, 2010
and he won't either.

i think haslam has been as ineffective a mayor as we've ever had.
but that's based on his performance while in office.
the only thing he's done that i support, is how he appointed Sterling Owen as police commissioner and settled down that dept.
that's how he should be judged as he tries to be elected governor.

not on what his daddy's oil and gas co. have done, or haven't done.

and just what oil co. operates in some fantasy polly anna fashion of business.
they're all cut throat.

BP is a classic example.
trying to cut operating expenses and time by pumping up oil w/o lubricating mud ???
I Back Zach

Knoxville, TN

#18 May 24, 2010
Minuteman wrote:
<quoted text>
Telling me to "check into it" is not proof of anything. If he or Pilot oil have broken any laws or have engaged in shady dealings put them up. Pilot is a privately owned corporation so they are not required to publicly disclose anything about their contracts or dealings. Jim Haslam Sr. also owns 16% of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't know if they do or not, but owning casinos, or casino stock is legal. I don't agree with gambling, but ownership of a legal enterprise is fine. If you have proof of illegal gambling, put it up here. If you think having dealings with foreign oil companies is a problem, about half of the corporations in America are in trouble. The USA does a lot of business with oil companies from many countries.
So far, you haven't said anything that would discredit them or show them to be "dishonest".
Okay, how about this. Pilot in Lenoir City hires people on disability to work for CASH. I have been told that other Pilot stores do the same thing. They claen stock coolers etc. Tennessee State Law requires all monies have unemployement and workers compensation be paid. If they pay in cash there is no record of such payments. If he will allow this kind on illigle activity go on what would he do with or tax dollars. Bill Haslem will do what his old man tells him to do. I for one was cheated by the Pilot on some work I did. I know how they run thier business. It comes from the top down. Pilot, Haslem all the same. For a Man who once said that he wanted to be a preacher. I don't know how that could be if he sells beer and hires people under the table and skips out on the State Laws.
Earl Keese

Knoxville, TN

#19 May 24, 2010
"I for one was cheated by the Pilot on some work I did."

and there you have it !!!
sour grapes.

haslam should not be anywhere near the governors mansion.
but not because of your whiny ranting and raving about not being fully able to keep yourself from being screwed.
if it indeed happened, you allowed it by not being the sharpest crayon in the box.

i base that on your literacy skills you've shown us here.

“Obamunism - Political Failure”

Since: Feb 08

Out here in the country

#20 May 24, 2010
Earl Keese wrote:
and he won't either.
i think haslam has been as ineffective a mayor as we've ever had.
but that's based on his performance while in office.
the only thing he's done that i support, is how he appointed Sterling Owen as police commissioner and settled down that dept.
that's how he should be judged as he tries to be elected governor.
not on what his daddy's oil and gas co. have done, or haven't done.
and just what oil co. operates in some fantasy polly anna fashion of business.
they're all cut throat.
BP is a classic example.
trying to cut operating expenses and time by pumping up oil w/o lubricating mud ???
Yep. I'm no Haslam fan, but here's the problem. People throw out innuendo and unproven statements because they don't LIKE someone for a particular office, etc. It's kind of like Maobama. I have never liked him for several factual reason. Left wing extremist, never had a job, liberal elitist, no practical military or economic background. Those are all facts that can be backed up by PUBLIC record. Not because he doesn't have a birth certificate, etc etc.

The same with Haslam, or whoever. If you don't have a set of facts to back it up you can't just throw out accusations without proof. It makes the person saying it look stupid.

“Obamunism - Political Failure”

Since: Feb 08

Out here in the country

#21 May 24, 2010
I Back Zach wrote:
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Okay, how about this. Pilot in Lenoir City hires people on disability to work for CASH. I have been told that other Pilot stores do the same thing. They claen stock coolers etc. Tennessee State Law requires all monies have unemployement and workers compensation be paid. If they pay in cash there is no record of such payments. If he will allow this kind on illigle activity go on what would he do with or tax dollars. Bill Haslem will do what his old man tells him to do. I for one was cheated by the Pilot on some work I did. I know how they run thier business. It comes from the top down. Pilot, Haslem all the same. For a Man who once said that he wanted to be a preacher. I don't know how that could be if he sells beer and hires people under the table and skips out on the State Laws.
Well, the way you discredit Pilot would be to show a civil complaint that has been filed, a judgement for a complainant, an arrest or some type of public record about it. Without that you are simply making unproven accusations.

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