Gunman opens fire in Tennessee Unita...

Gunman opens fire in Tennessee Unitarian Universalist church, 1 killed

There are 1282 comments on the ap.google.com story from Jul 27, 2008, titled Gunman opens fire in Tennessee Unitarian Universalist church, 1 killed. In it, ap.google.com reports that:

A gunman opened fire at a church youth performance Sunday, injuring eight people and killing a man who witnesses called a hero for shielding others from a shotgun blast.

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Since: Mar 08

Utica, KY

#599 Jul 29, 2008
Cpetr13 wrote:
No, some sects follow that, most notably the jehovah's witnesses and Mormons, but many christian sects qre under no ecclesiastic sanction to spread the faith. It certainly was never stressed among catholics when I was growing up. I have never known an episcopalian who was "compelled" to do so either.
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I suggest that get a Bible and read Matthew 28:18-20. It is called the Great Commission and millions of Christians are compelled to do it. If your Catholic experience did not emphasize it that is surprising. So yes, it does exist and is why that Christianity has had missionaries since the days of the Apostle Paul. Please forgive me if I sound incredulous but I find it just a little extraordinary that you have no knowledge of the Great Commission.

“Gun toting liberal”

Since: Nov 07

Wilmington

#600 Jul 29, 2008
babs01 wrote:
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I'm not a UU, but I'm interested in your comment. How are they about money?
Well, about once a year, they have a pledge drive and a fundraiser so they can keep the minister paid and the lights on.
stop the madness

Indianapolis, IN

#601 Jul 29, 2008
Kimbefly wrote:
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Well, about once a year, they have a pledge drive and a fundraiser so they can keep the minister paid and the lights on.
Their it is.
stop the madness

Indianapolis, IN

#602 Jul 29, 2008
babs01 wrote:
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I'm not a UU, but I'm interested in your comment. How are they about money?
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I'm not a UU, but I'm interested in your comment. How are they about money?

They justify their existence with quick comments of their past but they are not the same today. Witchcraft pagans "earth based religions", The UU's are home to all. Now the money, elderly family members have ben taken to the cleaners. So many groups, so many causes, scammers and operators move throw the weak with impunity for a uu would never speak a despairing word about another.

Check out one of their sites www.cuups.org/ or better yet visit a local uu "church". Take a little scepticism and you will see a lot.
stop the madness

Indianapolis, IN

#603 Jul 29, 2008
Anndee wrote:
IT IS NOT A CHURCH!
I've been to this "church" They believe everything and nothing.
You can pray to a tree, yourself what ever catches your fancy.
Everytime I have been invited to attend it was more a bash bush session.
In my estimation the "fellowship" really should be called a political action committee.
During the service they passed around a impeach George Bush petition and collect money for protests.
At the service Monday, which included candle-lighting and speeches by church leaders, the children came out singing, "The sun will come out tomorrow," a line from the signature song in the musical "Annie."
HUMANISM not Christianity!
They no doubt lite inceanse and bonged a bong.
Speeches form church leader?
Lectures from the fellowship on how Bush is the blame for all this violence.
Its nice to hear from someone that's not taken in by the uu brainwashing.
Semper Fi

AOL

#604 Jul 29, 2008
stop the madness wrote:
If you don't believe in Jesus Christ why call your group a church. Why not a synagogue, temple, masque or what you really are a CULT.
Tradition mostly. Here's an excerpt from the Wiki page on Unitarian Universalism to help you get a feel for how long that tradition goes back in this country:

Notable congregations

Certain Unitarian, Universalist, or Unitarian Universalist congregations (churches, societies, fellowships, etc.) have particular historic or other significance.

Arlington Street Church in Boston was the congregation of William Ellery Channing and Dana McLean Greeley (1729). The congregation played a large role in the origin and foundation of the faith and has been a leader in social justice causes. It is considered by many to be the 'Mother Church' of the faith.

King's Chapel in Boston is one of the oldest New England churches of any denomination (1688), and is on the Freedom Trail. It is one of the oldest surviving congregations in the United States.

All Souls Church, Unitarian, in Washington, DC, was founded in 1821 by (among others) John Quincy Adams.

Church of the Larger Fellowship is a worldwide congregation.

First Parish Church, Unitarian Universalist in Duxbury, Massachusetts, was founded in 1632 by Pilgrims. The Elder William Brewster (Pilgrim) was the church's first religious leader, and the church included John Alden and Myles Standish as members. It was the second religious body of the Plymouth Colony.

First Unitarian Church of Rochester was the Unitarian congregation of Susan B. Anthony; the building was designed by Louis Kahn.

First Unitarian Society in Madison, Wisconsin is the largest UU congregation; its building was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright.

Follen Church Society of Lexington, Massachusetts, was, from 1836 to 1838, the last pulpit of Ralph Waldo Emerson. Its unique octagonal sanctuary was designed by first minister Charles Follen, a noted abolitionist.

Unitarian Church of All Souls Founded in 1819 following an inspiring sermon by William Ellery Channing during a visit to New York City, All Souls' is one of the largest and most influential churches in the denomination. Herman Melville and Peter Cooper were members of All Souls, and minister Henry Whitney Bellows led the congregation for 43 years. Forrester Church, author and theologian, served as senior Minister for almost 30 years and is currently Minister of Public Theology.

Unitarian Universalist Church in Charleston S.C., established in 1772, is "the oldest Unitarian church in the South".

United First Parish Church, Quincy, Massachusetts, is the burial place of U.S. Presidents John Adams and John Quincy Adams and their wives.

Unity Temple Oak Park, Illinois, had its building designed by Frank Lloyd Wright.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Univer...

And you should also know that there is such a thing as Christian Universalism - a set of theological beliefs about God, Christ, and the origin and destiny of the human soul, emphasizing the unconditional parental love of God and God's plan to redeem, restore, and transform all people through Christ.

A minority of Christians from a diversity of denominations including some Unitarian Universalists hold this belief system. And there is also an organization called The Christian Universalist Association which esposes this belief:

http://www.christianuniversalist.org/
Lindsay

United States

#605 Jul 29, 2008
Prayers are Pointless wrote:
An added detail:
Most of you seem ignorant that he was shooting up a unitarian church. For those of you who aren't aware, unitarianism is the more sane of the garden variety pew religions, merely because they don't profess to know everything about made up millenia-old desert scribblings.
Who would shoot up a unitarian church? Someone who hates humanism, abortion, women's rights, environmental issues and anything that doesn't assume the rapture will whisk our problems away any day now. Namely, a christian.
Atheists and other people who put real thought into their core beliefs (and not with 'faith like a child') recognize fallacies for what they are, and can reason their way out of problems without shooting people. Why would someone shoot up a church? The answer is sitting in the pews and standing at the pulpit.
I love this scripture...it comforts me when I read posts from people like you that show no respect to christians or to God. One day, even YOU will bow your knee and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord. Hallelujah!! You may not do it now, but someday you will and every other non - believer will too. HIS WORD declares it and it SHALL come to pass.

Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
stop the madness

Indianapolis, IN

#606 Jul 29, 2008
what hapened to Semper Fi
Semper Fi

AOL

#608 Jul 29, 2008
stop the madness wrote:
what hapened to Semper Fi
Why? Because I haven't posted anything for two or three minutes?

I must be slowing down. LOL.
stop the madness

Indianapolis, IN

#609 Jul 29, 2008
you are not the church you were,plain and simple

“ illegitimus non carborundum”

Since: May 08

Columbia, S.C.

#610 Jul 29, 2008
church members were murdered in front of children and some of you 'holier than thou' types are fixated on whether or not they qualify as a 'real' church. if you want to understand why some people have a problem with religion look no further than your own posts.
stop the madness

Indianapolis, IN

#611 Jul 29, 2008
Personally I am an atheist but unfortunately I have crossed paths with evil cloaked in uu cover more than once due to family involvement.

“Namaste”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#612 Jul 29, 2008
Hector wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know that jesus didn't send this man over from the correct church to rectify the incorrect church?
I sure hope you are joking.

“Namaste”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#613 Jul 29, 2008
freebird wrote:
since when is it alright for anyone to take it upon themselves to be judge jury and executioner, for what ever reason and what is this crap of right church or wrong church everyone does not have to agree on where when or how to worship just to do it ..some of the dumbest remarks i have ever seen are on these forums
And usually from the most devout "Christians". Or those that claim to be.
MDK

Mount Pleasant, SC

#614 Jul 29, 2008
Joseph Bailey wrote:
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I suggest that get a Bible and read Matthew 28:18-20. It is called the Great Commission and millions of Christians are compelled to do it. If your Catholic experience did not emphasize it that is surprising. So yes, it does exist and is why that Christianity has had missionaries since the days of the Apostle Paul. Please forgive me if I sound incredulous but I find it just a little extraordinary that you have no knowledge of the Great Commission.
I don't know about "the Great Commission" and could care less. That is the problem with your ilk. Always looking down on people who do not believe what you do. Typical narrow-minded, judgmental, bigoted, snobbish, religious jerk. Extraordinary is the way in which you suggest to people what to read. As if the bible is a great piece of literature!

“Namaste”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#615 Jul 29, 2008
Leslie wrote:
<quoted text>So this is how atheists solve their problems.
No, this is how crazy people solve their problems. Not atheists. Do not EVER lump the two together again. That's simply rude and unjust.

“Namaste”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#616 Jul 29, 2008
Kimbefly wrote:
Be nice, folks. Unitarians are united by the belief in the inherent worth and dignity of every person. After that, they break into many groups - Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, pagan, humanist, etc., all drawing wisdom from holy writings from all religions.
Sermons often center on biblical subjects, but sometimes do not. It is a good, intellectually satisfying, spiritually fulfilling faith.
For anyone to defend a killer barging in to a service is abhorrent. When Jesus said "Love thy neighbor" he didn't mean to kill them.
It shouldn't matter what path of Christianity they walked down, nor even what religion they were. They could have been worshiping animal balloons for all I care, no one deserved this kind of hatred and blood shed.
stop the madness

United States

#617 Jul 29, 2008
roadrunner48808 wrote:
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It shouldn't matter what path of Christianity they walked down, nor even what religion they were. They could have been worshiping animal balloons for all I care, no one deserved this kind of hatred and blood shed.
They don't deserve blood shed, but they have definitely deserve the hatred.
blank check

Birmingham, AL

#618 Jul 29, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
"Gunman opens fire in Tennessee Unitarian Universalist church, 1 killed"
2 have died now. What is wrong with people? There is a terrible wound in the fabric of this country that needs to be healed so this sort of horrible, despicable thing stops happening. Why are there so many sickos in the world?
What we are observing is the 40+ year disease process of atheism spilling over into the minds and hearts of people. Even Christians are doing crazy stuff as the sickness of atheism really got started in 1963 when the first firecracker of atheism exploded with that moron Madelyn O'Hare. Every principle of Christian morals and lifestyle stability started getting pushed aside when the true terrorists of the world (atheists) started spreading the word of hatred for the fellow man and abolish all that is good. You want to see a country fall and collapse? Let the atheist take it over. The country won't make it 50 years. We are now at year 45 of 50. 5 more years and we will be in a state of total terror.

“Namaste”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#619 Jul 29, 2008
stop the madness wrote:
<quoted text>On a different note the uu's clam they love and forgive everyone, BS! Just mention Ronald Reagan or either George Bush and the angry rage will start and grow, real strange group of people, mostly cons and complacent.
TheUU's home of the over educated, self absorbed, elites wannabes.
Boy, you're not judgemental at all are you? And, I need to correct you on something, if I understood it correctly. Pagans and Wiccans would not be going to a UU church. Nor would most "earth based" religions. Get it right.

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