Tennessee ranks very low in children's well-being

A national report on child welfare released today reflects another rough year for Tennessee's youngest residents. Full Story
Dreadful

United States

#24 Jul 25, 2007
Puddin wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Dreadful,
Who are our senators and house members in Washington at this moment? I think I made my point with the straight fasts.
State legislators do not bring in wealth.
You said state. Logically I went with our state's makeup. They are the ones responsible for budgets and programs that affect the children's well being in our state much much more than our federal delegation. Nice try though.

Secondly you say 'at this moment' but that's not what you were saying in your original post. That was to the effect that the state had been a Republican stronghold for years. Again, nice try.

Furthermore, we have a long list of democrats that have represented us in Washington the last decades...Jim Sasser, Al Gore, Jim Cooper, Lincoln Davis, Harold Ford. Do you hold them accountable or are you just wanting to score cheap points?
Wash

United States

#25 Jul 25, 2007
Sharon wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it will take $$. Could the surplus lottery fund possibly be designated for some of these programs? Could the program fall under the auspices of United Way? As for myself, I would certainly be willing to pay increased property taxes to ensure these kids are given every chance for a decent life. Or divert the wheel tax for this. I would suspect there may also be some federal funding or even private grants that would support a program like this.
BTW, I almost responded (sarcasm here)"Let the County Mayor charge it on a p-card" :-)
You know what's really true about your last sentence is that people who otherwise might support higher taxes for such programs will look at the corruption and lavish spending, remember the wheel tax and what it really appears to be paying for, and promptly say heck no. Thanks a bunch local government, trust is just so darn easy to build up with the public.

I could kick myself now for supporting the wheel tax.
Sharon

Knoxville, TN

#26 Jul 25, 2007
Brent wrote:
That last sentence by an "expert" is unbelievable. To put education and winning the lottery on the same playing field is irresponsible. That one sentence gives the poor more reason than ever to play the lottery.
As a pastor, I challange the church to step up and assist the parents in improving their childrens education and health. I know a church who is planning to adopt a kindergarden class, and follow them all the way thru high school. They will assist by offering free classes for the parents, like family budgeting classes, parenting classes,and homeschooling information. Also assisting with free school supplies, and food.
What if every church did this? Hmmm....
Brent,
Could you give me the name of the church that is adopting the K class? I'd like to send them a donation.
Kat

Brentwood, TN

#27 Jul 25, 2007
I wish I could be nice, but I've seen this happen too often. Maybe I'm cynical, but the way the world is right now, we've become a society where we expect others to take care of us. As a teacher, I've seen kids get in free to in-school basketball games that only cost $2 because they are on free/reduced lunch. However, when the MIDDLE SCHOOL class ring information came out, they could easily fork over the $75 it cost for that ring. The system is being milked for all its worth. We need to revamp the welfare system and give to those who actually need it, not just to those who are too lazy to do anything else.
Puddin wrote:
Come on Kat, be nice.
Sharon has the best idea. Kudos to you Sharon.
The minister is refreshing as well. You guys make me believe there is still good in this world.
The Republicans have had a strong hold on this state for too many years. They do not believe in re-investing in the infrastructure like Clinton did successfully in the 90's, Wake up guys and get some better leadership here and we can break this stranglehold on our impoverished youth.
Cheryl Greene County

United States

#29 Jul 25, 2007
Poverty is not only a problem in TN, but nationwide. As an educator I realize that the answer lies in education, but don't really know how to make it happen. As for everyone dishing the lady the had three and is preganant again; that is where EDUCATION as in SEX EDUCATION comes in. We as a member of society need to offer a hand up; not a slap down. Yes, obviously I'm not a conservative.

Since: Jun 07

La Vergne, TN

#30 Jul 25, 2007
Wash wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what's really true about your last sentence is that people who otherwise might support higher taxes for such programs will look at the corruption and lavish spending, remember the wheel tax and what it really appears to be paying for, and promptly say heck no. Thanks a bunch local government, trust is just so darn easy to build up with the public.
I could kick myself now for supporting the wheel tax.
You could have it alot worse. In virginia you pay a personal property tax on your car which is almost 7% of blue book value of your car every year. Dad had a 94 Tahoo valued at almost 30,000 and he paid $1,500 tax on it before he moved here. And all this shortfall crap in this state is because there are no taxes on hardly anything except food,hard goods, property. In Virginia we had an income tax and quite frankly i loved getting back 600.00 from the state every year not counting the federal, and we paid 2% tax on food and 5% on everything else. I'd support an income tax if they took tax off food.And last the state didnt support people who had 2,3,4,5,6 kids in the family, they told you to get a job but again the cost of living in Virginia beach was so high you couldnt afford alot of kids.
Wash

United States

#31 Jul 26, 2007
Puddin wrote:
<quoted text>
No cheap points my friend.
Sasser? Gore? My good friend Cooper? 2 out of 11 represenatives is never a majority. I do give you credit on pulling some names out of your hat. You had to go deep for them. You understand what I mean in the first place. Duncan is to only good Republican in the state.
I wish Harold Ford's boy would have won, he isnt a sleaze like his diddy.
Again, you've moved the parameters of your argument from state level to federal. Your first posts mentioned wealth...by that do you mean pork? Call me naive but I fail to see how throwing cash at a problem ever makes it go away. Dig deep for those names? Not at all, heck I voted for some of them in the past, it was certainly more than the two you mentioned.

My point is that the state is primarily responsible for its citizens and youth, not the fed, and the state has been pretty much democratic until very recently.
Dreadful

United States

#32 Jul 26, 2007
Puddin wrote:
<quoted text>
No cheap points my friend.
Sasser? Gore? My good friend Cooper? 2 out of 11 represenatives is never a majority. I do give you credit on pulling some names out of your hat. You had to go deep for them. You understand what I mean in the first place. Duncan is to only good Republican in the state.
I wish Harold Ford's boy would have won, he isnt a sleaze like his diddy.
I agree with the poster before. I too voted for Al and Jim Sasser back in the 80's. There were a heck of a lot more than just 2 democrats up on Capitol Hill.

Federal politics are just that, Federal and it sure is nice to be able to use them as an example of republicans being in charge and not doing anything for 'the children' but we have 95 counties in TN, 30+ state senators and a the majority of the house has been democratic for years, that's a better representation of voter attitudes than a handful in Washington. If they wanted to increase budgets for children's services they could have.

Or democrat Bredesen could have not given his commissioners raises and earmarked that money for another nebulous state agency. For the children of course.
Harper

Springfield, TN

#33 Jul 26, 2007
Pu-Leze wrote:
<quoted text>
Not your fault?! Who's fault would it be for YOU having unprotected sex? Can you afford a box of condoms? Give me a break!
I agree - and you don't even have to afford them - you can get them for free at clinics and planned parenthood. No excuse.
Harper

Springfield, TN

#34 Jul 26, 2007
mellaman wrote:
<quoted text>You could have it alot worse. In virginia you pay a personal property tax on your car which is almost 7% of blue book value of your car every year. Dad had a 94 Tahoo valued at almost 30,000 and he paid $1,500 tax on it before he moved here. And all this shortfall crap in this state is because there are no taxes on hardly anything except food,hard goods, property. In Virginia we had an income tax and quite frankly i loved getting back 600.00 from the state every year not counting the federal, and we paid 2% tax on food and 5% on everything else. I'd support an income tax if they took tax off food.And last the state didnt support people who had 2,3,4,5,6 kids in the family, they told you to get a job but again the cost of living in Virginia beach was so high you couldnt afford alot of kids.
mellaman - I too have lived in other states that have higher taxes on everything that you mentioned. Sure it's a pain but the public education was exceptional, the drop-out rate was low and in the long run the entire state benefits from a generation of well-educated people. Now please people - try and stop yourselves from the typical "if you don't like it live somewhere else" comments - but it seems on every post I read the people here go completely NUTS about any tax they have to pay in TN. This is one of the lowest taxed states in the country and that is reflected in the public services we receive.

And just to clarify - No I don't think we should support people who sit on their butts all day - I just think sometimes taxes (if used for the public good) can be a good thing.
DC tells it like it is

Knoxville, TN

#35 Jul 27, 2007
Brent wrote:
That last sentence by an "expert" is unbelievable. To put education and winning the lottery on the same playing field is irresponsible. That one sentence gives the poor more reason than ever to play the lottery.
As a pastor, I challange the church to step up and assist the parents in improving their childrens education and health. I know a church who is planning to adopt a kindergarden class, and follow them all the way thru high school. They will assist by offering free classes for the parents, like family budgeting classes, parenting classes,and homeschooling information. Also assisting with free school supplies, and food.
What if every church did this? Hmmm....
Ummm....Churches would be more like "churches" should be at long last.
Great idea. Now..how exactly would you go about doing this ...? What would you say to the people, how would you gather the poor that lost their faith long ago?

Churches should be helping people around them ..and should have been doing this for some time.

Will wait and see.....
Is all anyone can do.

I strongly believe if a person goes on welfare for any reason they should not be allowed for any reason to give birth to another child...Period.

Since: Jun 07

La Vergne, TN

#36 Jul 31, 2007
tennesse ranks low on everything so it dont suprise me. Instead of spending 774 billion on an illegal war they could have used that money to help the states that cant balance their budgets and help the hungery childern here and build new schools as well.
DC tells it like it is

Knoxville, TN

#37 Aug 10, 2007
At the beginning of the topic, I went ahead and bookmarked it. Watched it for days like a fisher and his nets.

I even posted at last to see what effect it would have, it had none. Save one.

I read other blogs, where spanking, or misconduct is being done by a child or an adult to a child. Everyone saying ..God bless them. Or the parents should be this and that. Or better yet, damn the child.

I will agree with the thing about parents. Just isn't enough to go around any more.

Because no one cares!!!!!!!!!!1

But back to children.

Looks to me by only two pages being needed on the subject, no one cares about children, in this state or any other. I've ..as "Uncle" says...sat and watched..and have done so for a handful of generations. No one cares about children. Maybe some..and of course they do..theirs!

But on a whole, nope. Isn't happening. Maybe you should bless that, instead of backpacks, or whatever you see fit to have your 15 minutes of bravado.

I am asking why? Why do you come and tote "your" God. Or your blessing . Or your opinion, when this space, this blog remains damn near empty?
Bless yourself in the mirror and start there.

Ask why you need a smoke screen to use blogging for some way to not only have your say, toot your horn, put your name up on the screen. The net, the gateway to the narcissistic marquee blogger.

Some are such misguided misanthropes.

Shame on most of you. Shame on all the rest ...I don't see much of your faces on this blog.
And you know why.

And, mellaman, as you have read in the paper or on comp...they don't' have money, because they are paying their way into heaven,buying everything that isn't tied down, and the government is spending it on themselves. As said...seems to me..no one cares about the children.

To some..they are just "kids".

“Women (and cats) of WoW unite!”

Since: Jul 07

San Diego, but now: The Woods

#38 Nov 29, 2007
It takes adults (and teens) who care to reach out in their communities and help care for the younger ones. Children are people; full of potential and the future of our world.

Programs like Head Start are crucial to these children:

http://tnheadstart.org/index_files/Page352.ht...
http://tnheadstart.org/index.htm
http://tnheadstart.org/index_files/Page435.ht...
http://tnheadstart.org/index_files/Page390.ht...

Head Start always, always needs volunteers. I've seen high school classes come in to read and play with the kids and it benefits both sets of students. Adults are also very much needed.

What else can people do? Volunteer in schools to help on the playground, grade papers, help with reading, math, science, music, whatever you can do!

Food banks need healthy food for these children. Shelters need clothes, blankets and more.

Sadly, drug and alcohol abuse in the home can contribute to children not getting the care they need. My son's friend has several siblings and the family used to be a lot more stable. Not anymore, now that mom and dad split up and started partying. This young man has spent a lot of time at our house over the past few years. It gives him some stability and a little bit of adult guidance. I believe he's going to be okay and is making choices that will help his future.

These kids may be our children's peers. They might be someone's grandkids or little cousins. They are a part of our community. They can not help their circumstances, but we can help them.

“Women (and cats) of WoW unite!”

Since: Jul 07

San Diego, but now: The Woods

#39 Nov 29, 2007
From a study at U of O:

"Will Money and Comprehensive Services Do the Job?

Each of the sponsors in Follow Through had about the same amount of money to provide comprehensive services and an educational program. Most sponsors had two aides in most classrooms, and spent about $350 per child above basic school support on the educational component. The Abt data provide a convincing demonstration that money, good will, people, material, Hawthorne effect, health programs, dental programs, and hot lunches do not cause gains in achievement. All Follow Through sponsors had these things, and most failed to do the job in basic instruction."

And this:

"Why Do Economically Disadvantaged Students Continue to Do Poorly in School?

In general, economically disadvantaged students come to school with less knowledge relevant to succeeding in school. Thus, teaching these students requires teachers with different attitudes and skills, and more patience than is typically required. Colleges of education and schools are not organized or administered to develop and support teachers with these attributes. To coin a malapropism, "there is a way, but no will." Students from low-income families do not need to fail in schools. They can be taught.

In summary, through the careful design of curricula, classroom procedures, and training procedures, the DI Follow Through Model was able to achieve a major goal of compensatory education&shyp;improving the academic performance of economically disadvantaged children to (or near) median national levels. Only one other major model in the Follow Through experiment (the University of Kansas Behavior Analysis Model) came close to matching this achievement. The DI Model also performed best on measures of affective outcomes, such as self-esteem. Follow-up studies, through primary and secondary levels, show strong continuing effects in terms of academic performance at the primary level, and better attendance, fewer grade retentions, and increased college acceptance at the high school level."

http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~adiep/ft/becker....

The middle class is affected, too.(Older article but still very applicable):

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/money...

Why early reading skills are so important:

http://www.indiana.edu/~reading/ieo/digests/d...

The Today Show is following a group of children through graduation in 2020:

http://allday.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/1...

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

Since: Aug 07

Orion's Belt

#40 Nov 29, 2007
TrilbyKat wrote:
It takes adults (and teens) who care to reach out in their communities and help care for the younger ones. Children are people; full of potential and the future of our world.
Programs like Head Start are crucial to these children:
http://tnheadstart.org/index_files/Page352.ht...
http://tnheadstart.org/index.htm
http://tnheadstart.org/index_files/Page435.ht...
http://tnheadstart.org/index_files/Page390.ht...
Head Start always, always needs volunteers. I've seen high school classes come in to read and play with the kids and it benefits both sets of students. Adults are also very much needed.
What else can people do? Volunteer in schools to help on the playground, grade papers, help with reading, math, science, music, whatever you can do!
Food banks need healthy food for these children. Shelters need clothes, blankets and more.
Sadly, drug and alcohol abuse in the home can contribute to children not getting the care they need. My son's friend has several siblings and the family used to be a lot more stable. Not anymore, now that mom and dad split up and started partying. This young man has spent a lot of time at our house over the past few years. It gives him some stability and a little bit of adult guidance. I believe he's going to be okay and is making choices that will help his future.
These kids may be our children's peers. They might be someone's grandkids or little cousins. They are a part of our community. They can not help their circumstances, but we can help them.
I've tears in my eyes. Thank you so much for coming here and speaking up.

I am the only one that tends this page...but hopefully with you visit ..life will breathe into it.

I can only hope.

Godspeed.

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

Since: Aug 07

Orion's Belt

#41 Nov 29, 2007
with ^your visit..I meant .
FATTAX

Knoxville, TN

#42 Feb 5, 2008
Kat wrote:
One of our nation's biggest flaws is in our welfare system. People are actually rewarded for having more children when they can't afford the ones they already have. Why not reward people for NOT having kids when they can't afford it?
EXACTLY!! Don't have kids you can't afford. It really gets on my nerves when you hear a mother get prego again, only to find out that the husband has left her,she has lost her job... etc. It will keep happening until a law stops these mothers from having anymore children. Most go for the welfare, but others for the love- yet love doesn't pay the bills.
Geri

Indianapolis, IN

#43 Feb 13, 2008
Lena wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever heard of a condom? Sounds like you want the state to pay for birth control so you do not have to be responsible. If you cannot afford a condom then cancel your internet. That should cover a box of rubbers. So who's fault is it?
My goodness...is this story for real? My goodness what thinking.....

“My Bad! Just hold me. ”

Since: Aug 07

Orion's Belt

#44 Feb 14, 2008
~sighs~

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