How Do Republicans Defend Torture, Wars and Gas Over $4/Gallon?

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McCainery Burns

Baltimore, MD

#1 Jun 19, 2008
How do Republicans defend torture, wars and more wars?

For the $500,000,000,000.00*(five hundred billion dollars) that we have spent in Iraq:

...we could have built and strengthened a lot of levies, which also would have created good construction jobs

...we could have built a much better set of fences to stop illegal immigration (Bush has done nearly nothing because his rich corporate buddies want lots of very cheap labor to be available)

...we could have worked to improve America... our schools, bridges, highways, water treatment plants, produce inspections facilities, ethanol production facilities, etc.

...we could have improved the way foreign products are checked out before going on our shelves (to prevent things like tainted pet food and lead in kid’s toys)

Bush/McCain-style Republican policies have FAILED to delivery anything but pain to average Americans. Pain at the gas pump. Pain at the supermarket checkout. Pain as the tax bill for Bush’s wars are coming due.

Republicans are the party that says torture isn’t really torture, and they’re “torturing” average Americans. A simple example: their policies have led to CEOs receiving huge pay raises, bonuses and severance packages while average people are paying $4/gallon or more for gas.

While you’re paying $4 plus per gallon, Bush, McCain and other FAT-CATS are living better than ever before.

*****

Let’s vote the big oil companies and the Republicans OUT in November.
... Note: 68 million acres of oil-rich areas are under lease from the U.S. to oil companies.
... These areas remain UNEXPLORED! So, new offshore drilling is simply political
... pandering! Here’s the story:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/18/bush.o...
(You would need to look about halfway down in the story for the part about the 68 million unexplored acres.)

*****

And, let’s vote against the use of electric shocks... yes... we’ve been using electric shocks, on prisoners who haven’t even been charged with crimes. It’s hard to believe that people calling themselves Americans have done this... but they have!
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* Probably a low estimate. Some estimates of what the Bush/McCain Iraq war have cost and will cost (when including the treatment of soldiers back home and years of lost productivity for our country) are as high as $3,000,000,000,000 (three TRILLION dollars).
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And, after preaching to the American people about “family values”, people like Larry Craig and Mark Foley have made a laughing stock of the Republican party... Remember the bathroom stall foot-tapping and sending sexual emails to underage congressional “pages”? What a farce the GOP is.

And Republicans are still sending me mailers asking for money! FAT CHANCE!
Norman

Hollywood, FL

#2 Jun 20, 2008
McCainery Burns wrote:
How do Republicans defend torture, wars and more wars?
For the $500,000,000,000.00*(five hundred billion dollars) that we have spent in Iraq:
...we could have built and strengthened a lot of levies, which also would have created good construction jobs
...we could have built a much better set of fences to stop illegal immigration (Bush has done nearly nothing because his rich corporate buddies want lots of very cheap labor to be available)
...we could have worked to improve America... our schools, bridges, highways, water treatment plants, produce inspections facilities, ethanol production facilities, etc.
...we could have improved the way foreign products are checked out before going on our shelves (to prevent things like tainted pet food and lead in kid’s toys)
Bush/McCain-style Republican policies have FAILED to delivery anything but pain to average Americans. Pain at the gas pump. Pain at the supermarket checkout. Pain as the tax bill for Bush’s wars are coming due.
Republicans are the party that says torture isn’t really torture, and they’re “torturing” average Americans. A simple example: their policies have led to CEOs receiving huge pay raises, bonuses and severance packages while average people are paying $4/gallon or more for gas.
While you’re paying $4 plus per gallon, Bush, McCain and other FAT-CATS are living better than ever before.
*****
Let’s vote the big oil companies and the Republicans OUT in November.
... Note: 68 million acres of oil-rich areas are under lease from the U.S. to oil companies.
... These areas remain UNEXPLORED! So, new offshore drilling is simply political
... pandering! Here’s the story:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/18/bush.o...
(You would need to look about halfway down in the story for the part about the 68 million unexplored acres.)
*****
And, let’s vote against the use of electric shocks... yes... we’ve been using electric shocks, on prisoners who haven’t even been charged with crimes. It’s hard to believe that people calling themselves Americans have done this... but they have!
---
* Probably a low estimate. Some estimates of what the Bush/McCain Iraq war have cost and will cost (when including the treatment of soldiers back home and years of lost productivity for our country) are as high as $3,000,000,000,000 (three TRILLION dollars).
---
And, after preaching to the American people about “family values”, people like Larry Craig and Mark Foley have made a laughing stock of the Republican party... Remember the bathroom stall foot-tapping and sending sexual emails to underage congressional “pages”? What a farce the GOP is.
And Republicans are still sending me mailers asking for money! FAT CHANCE!
What a spammer you are!!! I show this exact message on 192 different Topix forums. Regardless of you political convictions, how can you justify this kind of spam?

I'm not making this up. Check it out:

http://www.google.com/search...
Appalled

Columbus, GA

#3 Jun 20, 2008
this is part of the Obamas new campaign. They have paid posters go to online forums to spread propaganda and misinformation. It goes by the old political saying "If you say something loud enough and often enough it does not matter if it is false people will believe it"

This one is longer than most but if you go to an insiders meeting the teach people how to do it, where when, and what message.

They have people act like disgruntle republicans, moderates etc.... It is not illegal but it is one of the reasons Obama chose not to take public financing because it is not allowed if he took that money.

Not that I am a big McCain fan I just became disgusted with this and many of the Obama campaign methods when I went to some meetings. I should have taken the instruction book but they would not let you take it out of the room and I burnt the bridge there when I confronted them and became upset over these techniques.
Why

Columbus, GA

#4 Jun 20, 2008
So you know why someone from Columbus would even be on this Knoxville site site, I came here looking for a Knoxville Ice Bears topic so I could see what you guys are doing and heckle you because you got lucky last year but the Columbus Cottonmouths are going to win it all!!!!!

Since: Jun 08

Knoxville, TN

#5 Jun 20, 2008
Its easy to justify. Now what?

“global warming is a hoax”

Since: Apr 08

knoxville

#6 Jun 20, 2008
what torture ???
and the dems were supposed to breeze into congressional power and make gas prices plummet.
and how's that going ??? NOT TOO GOOD.

and what war did we start ???

you're just another cow in the heard who's spending far too much time at the trough.
Dan

Redmond, WA

#7 Jun 23, 2008
Gas prices have gone up 71% under a Democratic Congress. And their plan is to do....what?

I saw 3,000 Americans incinerated on 9/11. Men and women jumping to their deaths. I'm sorry, but if a few drops of water on a terrorist's forehead can prevent LA or NY from being vaporized by a nuclear bomb or another airliner full of men/women/children being flown to their deaths, pardon me if I don't lose any sleep.

But don't worry. You'll get your wish. Obama will in all likely-hood be the next president. Democrats will control all 3 branchs of government. Then they'll be no more excuses. No more blaming Bush and the GOP. You asked for it...you'll get it.

“Goddess on the Loose.”

Since: Mar 08

Morristown

#8 Jun 23, 2008
Dan wrote:
Gas prices have gone up 71% under a Democratic Congress. And their plan is to do....what?
I saw 3,000 Americans incinerated on 9/11. Men and women jumping to their deaths. I'm sorry, but if a few drops of water on a terrorist's forehead can prevent LA or NY from being vaporized by a nuclear bomb or another airliner full of men/women/children being flown to their deaths, pardon me if I don't lose any sleep.
But don't worry. You'll get your wish. Obama will in all likely-hood be the next president. Democrats will control all 3 branchs of government. Then they'll be no more excuses. No more blaming Bush and the GOP. You asked for it...you'll get it.
Dan, you are the MAN! It's about time someone said it just the way you did. I hope he isn't elected, but if he is, these die-hard Obama supporters are sure gonna be disappointed.

“A fun Republican Folk Singer”

Since: Jul 07

Maryville

#9 Jun 23, 2008
How do Republicans defend torture, wars and more wars?"

Uh cause everything can be fun if a demoRAT is on the bad end of the stick??

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#10 Jun 23, 2008
No mater what goes right or wrong, Democrats and Republicans find ways to take credit or blame each other. The truth is that, most of the time, the events in question are brought about by forms of momentum that are beyond the control of either party. Gas prices are a good case in point. They are influenced by a complicated amalgam of international pressures, none of which have enough individual power to decide the days outcome. Congress and the White House are among less significant of these influences, as are the two parties that vie for their control.

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