East TN Pain Clinic Review
Just Me

Livingston, TN

#346 Jul 9, 2011
reviews wrote:
The title of this thread is East Tennessee Pain Clinic Review. As such, with more than 300 posts, I was expecting to find a number of knowledgable individuals who are actually patients of various eastern Tn pain clinics with informative opinions to share with those who are truly in need of legitimate pain management.
BOY WAS I WRONG!!!
For those who have no interest in becoming a patient of an east Tn pain clinic, as well as those of you who are against pain specialists, medications etc, PLEASE START A NEW THREAD with its OWN title that applies to you and your beliefs. CLEARLY, this thread is NOT for you.
*If anyone has positive information to share regarding your experiences with a pain management center located in eastern Tn, please feel free to do so with as much info as you're comfortable sharing. Chronic pain stems from a wide array of sources, from car accident back and neck injuries, to painful progressively worsening diseases such as multiple sclerosis, lupus, fibromyalgia etc... just to name a few. Many clinics only specialize in treating accident related injuries, while some treat autoimmune diseases alone. Some require a ton of past records, while others only a few that are pertinent to your condition. Most all clinics now will accept patients who live within a 100 mile radius. Information such as this is very helpful to those seeking a pain management physician.*
I've just started East TN Pain Clinic and have been very pleased with the care. The docs are great & do not hand out the same drug menus to everyone - they treat each individual's pain and by no means wants their pts to be 'zombies'- just able to live life without letting chronic pain rule theirs. They do background check & psych interview one each new pt and goes strictly by the book (each pt has documented reason for pain). They also do other methods such as series of epidural shots (have ruptured discs and although it is not a cure, it did help).
The office is clean and located in a hospital setting and not in a 'shady' place of town (one of my co-workers is so afraid of some of the pts at the one she goes to she has her husband go with her).
The staff is great and the MDs have over 30 yrs experience (board certified which any specialist you go to should have). That reason and the fact the MD does not start with the same exact meds afor every pt is why I choose East TN Pain Clinic.
People should not label anyone who goes to a clinic automatically as a junkie - no one should live in chronic pain because of narrow-minded views. of course, they ones that abuse the clinics makes it difficult for the legit ones.
PS Here

Ooltewah, TN

#347 Jul 9, 2011
Just Me wrote:
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I've just started East TN Pain Clinic and have been very pleased with the care. The docs are great & do not hand out the same drug menus to everyone - they treat each individual's pain and by no means wants their pts to be 'zombies'- just able to live life without letting chronic pain rule theirs. They do background check & psych interview one each new pt and goes strictly by the book (each pt has documented reason for pain). They also do other methods such as series of epidural shots (have ruptured discs and although it is not a cure, it did help).
The office is clean and located in a hospital setting and not in a 'shady' place of town (one of my co-workers is so afraid of some of the pts at the one she goes to she has her husband go with her).
The staff is great and the MDs have over 30 yrs experience (board certified which any specialist you go to should have). That reason and the fact the MD does not start with the same exact meds afor every pt is why I choose East TN Pain Clinic.
People should not label anyone who goes to a clinic automatically as a junkie - no one should live in chronic pain because of narrow-minded views. of course, they ones that abuse the clinics makes it difficult for the legit ones.
Vonore is a very small town and people have questioned why I put my clinic where I did...in the local shopping center. I did that for safety reasons. It has excellent lighting and there are people around all the time, including local law enforcement people. If I had chosen any other place in town it would not have been such a safe place.

ET Pain Consultants is good and I would recommend them to people BUT, do they take people without insurance?? The thing about pain medications....there are only so many to chose from and then only so many that insurance will cover. Also, there are so many people that don't have insurance so their only option is medication, since it is the least expensive treatment, and then their medication options are down to just a couple because most are so expensive. I know it seems that a lot of places put out the same old prescriptions but my guess would be that some use those same medications because it's what the patient can afford. I can't speak for certain why other places write the prescriptions they write, only what comes out of my place. An example, with Medicare you have to try certain medications first. If those don't work then you can try others.

Unfortunately, one of the most abused medications is also the cheapest so it's a catch 22 when writing it. You get questioned about why you write so much of it when it is so highly abused yet so many people also benefit from it.
Broken Heart

Livingston, TN

#348 Jul 9, 2011
PS Here wrote:
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Vonore is a very small town and people have questioned why I put my clinic where I did...in the local shopping center. I did that for safety reasons. It has excellent lighting and there are people around all the time, including local law enforcement people. If I had chosen any other place in town it would not have been such a safe place.
ET Pain Consultants is good and I would recommend them to people BUT, do they take people without insurance?? The thing about pain medications....there are only so many to chose from and then only so many that insurance will cover. Also, there are so many people that don't have insurance so their only option is medication, since it is the least expensive treatment, and then their medication options are down to just a couple because most are so expensive. I know it seems that a lot of places put out the same old prescriptions but my guess would be that some use those same medications because it's what the patient can afford. I can't speak for certain why other places write the prescriptions they write, only what comes out of my place. An example, with Medicare you have to try certain medications first. If those don't work then you can try others.
Unfortunately, one of the most abused medications is also the cheapest so it's a catch 22 when writing it. You get questioned about why you write so much of it when it is so highly abused yet so many people also benefit from it.
I believe they do take those with no insurance since the lady in front of me had paid a large amount. The other 2 docs on the insurance panel gave everyone the same exact excessive amount of pills which I thought was too much (oxys, somas, etc) and they did not seem to treat the patients individually (this info came from my case manager & she knows I want a place that treats each pt differently). Also, they start out on the mildest pain medication and goes from there. The other docs seemed to have lost their passion and wrote the same meds for all (this came from a good source).
But I made a good choice - the epidural shots has given me some relief and I am so lucky WC is covering the cost of this and meds or I would not be able to do it.

Have a beautiful Sunday!!!
Just Me

Livingston, TN

#349 Jul 9, 2011
Sorry - the previous post was mine. I had used the Broken heart on a Crossville thread on Casey Anthony - some ahole was posting stuff about the little girl Caylee burning in hell. Sick & disgusting people to talk about a dead child.
PS Here

Ooltewah, TN

#350 Jul 10, 2011
Broken Heart wrote:
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I believe they do take those with no insurance since the lady in front of me had paid a large amount. The other 2 docs on the insurance panel gave everyone the same exact excessive amount of pills which I thought was too much (oxys, somas, etc) and they did not seem to treat the patients individually (this info came from my case manager & she knows I want a place that treats each pt differently). Also, they start out on the mildest pain medication and goes from there. The other docs seemed to have lost their passion and wrote the same meds for all (this came from a good source).
But I made a good choice - the epidural shots has given me some relief and I am so lucky WC is covering the cost of this and meds or I would not be able to do it.
Have a beautiful Sunday!!!
I am SO glad the epidurals have given you some relief. Every patient should be treated individually when the meds are written (and other treatment options are discussed). Unfortunately I know it doesn't happen. I have flat out told patients that I would only start on the lowest dose and go from there, explaining that we may not hit the nail on the head right away but it's better to start low as to not over sedate them. It is also important to do that so people don't end up 5-10 years down the road without pain relief because some doctor maxed them out early on meds. I have known a few to get quite upset about insisting on the lowest dose possible but they are also the ones to worry about it. Had a couple change clinics because of it...so be it. A lot of times the patients that come to the clinic are already on a particular dose that is "working for them" so we don't change it. I wish all the patients that came there were new pain patients so they hadn't ended up on the larger doses so quickly. There are so many things I wish I could change. Of course right now it's difficult to change anything....lol...but one day I will jump back in and hopefully help to make some greatly needed changes.

I have insurance but it does not cover anything to do with my back. It is a pre-existing condition because it had not been three years from my last surgery when I picked up this particular policy. It doesn't cover my Lyrica because it is for the neuropathy caused from the nerve damage. It is expensive but thankfully we get it at cost...otherwise I wouldn't be able to take it and without it I would not be able to get out of bed some days. I feel so bad for people that NEED medication and can't afford it. Like when the previous governor cut Tenncare prescriptions to 5/month. People were having to pick and choose which meds they could get each month and most of the time they could not get ones that were important for their health. Another thing I wish I could help change....our national healthcare.
PS Here

Ooltewah, TN

#351 Jul 10, 2011
Just Me wrote:
Sorry - the previous post was mine. I had used the Broken heart on a Crossville thread on Casey Anthony - some ahole was posting stuff about the little girl Caylee burning in hell. Sick & disgusting people to talk about a dead child.
As we know from being on here there are some very cruel people in this world. But anyway...I knew it was you...:)
Just Me

Gainesboro, TN

#352 Jul 11, 2011
PS Here wrote:
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I am SO glad the epidurals have given you some relief. Every patient should be treated individually when the meds are written (and other treatment options are discussed). Unfortunately I know it doesn't happen. I have flat out told patients that I would only start on the lowest dose and go from there, explaining that we may not hit the nail on the head right away but it's better to start low as to not over sedate them. It is also important to do that so people don't end up 5-10 years down the road without pain relief because some doctor maxed them out early on meds. I have known a few to get quite upset about insisting on the lowest dose possible but they are also the ones to worry about it. Had a couple change clinics because of it...so be it. A lot of times the patients that come to the clinic are already on a particular dose that is "working for them" so we don't change it. I wish all the patients that came there were new pain patients so they hadn't ended up on the larger doses so quickly. There are so many things I wish I could change. Of course right now it's difficult to change anything....lol...but one day I will jump back in and hopefully help to make some greatly needed changes.
I have insurance but it does not cover anything to do with my back. It is a pre-existing condition because it had not been three years from my last surgery when I picked up this particular policy. It doesn't cover my Lyrica because it is for the neuropathy caused from the nerve damage. It is expensive but thankfully we get it at cost...otherwise I wouldn't be able to take it and without it I would not be able to get out of bed some days. I feel so bad for people that NEED medication and can't afford it. Like when the previous governor cut Tenncare prescriptions to 5/month. People were having to pick and choose which meds they could get each month and most of the time they could not get ones that were important for their health. Another thing I wish I could help change....our national healthcare.
Yes it is astonishing the price of meds (not just pain). Many of my cystic fibrosis patients were cut down to 5 when they turned 18 and many of the parents who could afford helped but then again they was many that couldn't afford it.
And so many elderly have to chose between food & meds - just not right.

Anyways, hope you have a great week!!
PlowBoy

United States

#353 Jul 11, 2011
wishing and hoping wrote:
pain sufferer could you please get in touch with me through my email?....i live in athens (not to far from vonore in fact i used to work for CVG/national seating)....my email is pudlhopr14@hotmail.com i really enjoy reading your posts and i honestly believe you are the person who could advise me the best direction to take to get my life back....please put pain sufferer in the subject so i know its you cause i do get a lot of junk mail i truly hope you can help me because everywhere i turn the door gets shut in my face...i'm only looking for your advice and guidance thank you so much in advance PS. and keep up the good work on here, you do such a great job in your efforts to help and guide people.
This person is either a drug seeker or an agent with the drug task force.
PS Here

Redmond, OR

#354 Jul 12, 2011
PlowBoy wrote:
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This person is either a drug seeker or an agent with the drug task force.
That may be true....but they may also be a person in pain looking for relief. We can't judge someone online. If someone comes to my clinic we have strict rules about who we take and who we keep as patients. So if they are a drug seeker then the Tennessee Controlled Substance Database will show possible Dr. Shopping. If they have a medical reason for pain and are accepted as a patient yet they are not taking their pills as prescribed, or selling them, we should hopefully catch them either with a urine drug screen or pill count. There are always ways to catch them. May not catch them immediately but they will eventually get caught. If they are drug task force, they won't get into this clinic without a legitimate reason. And we don't accept hand carried medical records. They have to be faxed from their doctors office...and we watch the faxes that come in too, ie: make sure the number they come from is the doctor.

No matter what, if someone wants to get high they are going to find a way to get the pills. If someone wants pain relief, then they will do their research to make sure they get into a decent, legitimate place.
PS Here

Redmond, OR

#355 Jul 12, 2011
wishing and hoping wrote:
pain sufferer could you please get in touch with me through my email?....i live in athens (not to far from vonore in fact i used to work for CVG/national seating)....my email is pudlhopr14@hotmail.com i really enjoy reading your posts and i honestly believe you are the person who could advise me the best direction to take to get my life back....please put pain sufferer in the subject so i know its you cause i do get a lot of junk mail i truly hope you can help me because everywhere i turn the door gets shut in my face...i'm only looking for your advice and guidance thank you so much in advance PS. and keep up the good work on here, you do such a great job in your efforts to help and guide people.
Wishing...if you truly need pain management and you want to find out about the clinic we have a website...vonorepainmanegement .com. It has the info you need and the phone number to the clinic. You can also email me through that site....in fact I need to go answer some :/ lol I try not to talk too much about the clinic on here because I am not on here to promote it...I am on here to hopefully help people. Have a good day and I will keep you in my prayers :)
original Allen Johnson

Madisonville, TN

#356 Jul 12, 2011
Trolling for more junkies I see.

Hey "wishing and hoping" You know you are asking for drug help from someone that has lost two licenses for stealing drugs, being an addict and unethical behavior, right? Course, I also believe you are just another drug seeker, so that probably doesnt matter to you.
bigT

Monterey, TN

#357 Jul 12, 2011
original Allen Johnson wrote:
Trolling for more junkies I see.
Hey "wishing and hoping" You know you are asking for drug help from someone that has lost two licenses for stealing drugs, being an addict and unethical behavior, right? Course, I also believe you are just another drug seeker, so that probably doesnt matter to you.
ole allen the cowardly liar replies again...you are a phoney al......liar...liar....liar... .liar.....liar.....liar....if he only had a brain!!!!
original Allen Johnson

Madisonville, TN

#358 Jul 12, 2011
bigT wrote:
<quoted text>ole allen the cowardly liar replies again...you are a phoney al......liar...liar....liar... .liar.....liar.....liar....if he only had a brain!!!!
really? You got the nerve to even show up here, let alone call ANYONE else a coward? Are you kidding me? I think its been pretty widely proven that YOU are the druggie fraud and coward. Add liar to that as well.
PS Here

Redmond, OR

#359 Jul 12, 2011
People know about my past...and if they don't then they will learn about it. I don't care if they know. I'm not ashamed of what is in the past. Now, if it were STILL going on THAT would be another story. But MOST people know that as person can take their past and make the appropriate changes to be a better person. There are some that want to live in the past and attempt to rub a person's nose in it. That kind of person, one who lives in the past and doesn't have faith that people can change. I feel sorry for that kind of person.
original Allen Johnson

Madisonville, TN

#360 Jul 12, 2011
Huh, Im pretty sure not having a license and still having done unethical things is also part of the present. If a person "makes changes" and kicks an addiction, they generally dont make drugs their career. Hyenas cant change their spots. Or that annoying laugh either.
Original Rocket Scientist

United States

#361 Jul 12, 2011
Just Me wrote:
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OMG - I thought my MRI was bad! Horrible - no one can know how bad it hurts. You definitely need to see a good specialist (but we all know how it goes with insurance).
Will pray you are able to get the medical care you need.
Have you ever barfed from smelling someone else's fart?
PS Here

Redmond, OR

#362 Jul 13, 2011
original Allen Johnson wrote:
Huh, Im pretty sure not having a license and still having done unethical things is also part of the present. If a person "makes changes" and kicks an addiction, they generally dont make drugs their career. Hyenas cant change their spots. Or that annoying laugh either.
I don't do unethical things. I've already admitted that I have in the past and as I said, made the necessary changes in my life. I really don't care if YOU believe it or not...your opinion of me means nothing. The only thing that matters is my opinion of myself. I KNOW who I am today. YOU don't know me. I work in pain management because I have had THREE back surgeries and neck surgery so I UNDERSTAND where the patient is coming from. Just because I have a PAST does not mean I can't effectively do my job. And I really don't care about what happened with my license. It happens to people all the time and they survive it. As will I. What I do with my career and my life is no business of yours.
original Allen Johnson

Madisonville, TN

#363 Jul 13, 2011
PS Here wrote:
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I don't do unethical things. I've already admitted that I have in the past and as I said, made the necessary changes in my life. I really don't care if YOU believe it or not...your opinion of me means nothing. The only thing that matters is my opinion of myself. I KNOW who I am today. YOU don't know me. I work in pain management because I have had THREE back surgeries and neck surgery so I UNDERSTAND where the patient is coming from. Just because I have a PAST does not mean I can't effectively do my job. And I really don't care about what happened with my license. It happens to people all the time and they survive it. As will I. What I do with my career and my life is no business of yours.
You also have a present too. And that present does not include ANY healthcare license because the respective boards believe you are not fit to have them. Facts. You work in drug sales to be near them.
PS Here

Redmond, OR

#364 Jul 13, 2011
original Allen Johnson wrote:
<quoted text>You also have a present too. And that present does not include ANY healthcare license because the respective boards believe you are not fit to have them. Facts. You work in drug sales to be near them.
You will think and believe what you want. I for one don't care. Have fun bullying others...one day it will come back to you.
original Allen Johnson

Madisonville, TN

#365 Jul 13, 2011
PS Here wrote:
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You will think and believe what you want. I for one don't care. Have fun bullying others...one day it will come back to you.
yeah I hope so, like the closure of other pain clinics, drug busts, quacks losing their so called licenses. I do hope that. It got you thats a start.

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