Preacher set to file FBI Complaint against Dayton Police Chief

Jerry Layne, a well known street evangelist, was peacefully demonstrating his right to openly and publicly preach his religious faith as well as peacefully stating his opinion concerning “illegal immigration” by displaying a sign with the words, “ROUND UP DAY FOR ALL WET BACKS” while standing peacefully on a public sidewalk and lawn at the Rhea County Courthouse. Dayton Special Police Chief, Chris Sneed approached Layne and advised him that he could not be displaying his sign and protesting without first obtaining a permit from city hall. Special Chief Sneed, who many refer to as "Chief 1.96 GPA", appeared to have broken federal law by telling preacher Layne that he must leave a public sidewalk because he was in violation of a Dayton City Ordinance requiring a permit first be issued to him BEFORE he could protest.

[hill billy]

dayton like pikeville loves cheap labor[wet backs]...look into how many sneed works on other jobs,,every one in power in dayton works wet backs,,maybe some one should get i.c.s. to do there job...bust these people,,,rhea county goverment would need all new people..

[NightSerf]

It's unusual to require permits for protests involving very small groups of people, much less a single sign-carrier. I can't help but wonder what moved Dayton to enact such a restrictive ordinance.

[wolfeagle]

NightSerf wrote:

It's unusual to require permits for protests involving very small groups of people, much less a single sign-carrier. I can't help but wonder what moved Dayton to enact such a restrictive ordinance.

I wouldn't give up on my 1st Amendment just yet. There is no such thing as a permit on free speech. Dayton has never enacted such an ordinance, this clown with an uncle given badge made it up!!! To require a permit to speak would be the removal of freedom as this country knows it. The U.S. Supreme Court already addressed "municipal" permits. Such permits are issued only as an advance warning so as to allow police, etc. to make provisions for things such as parades, big organized masses blocking streets and so forth. Sneed simply did what most of the cops do there, they make it up as they go knowing most people will not, or cannot do a damn thing about it. That is why people like me are around. I think they call us patriots or troublemakers one. However, I know my rights, am a veteran and know the legal system as well as anyone. I think they call it "knowledge".

Sneed isn't qualified to be a policeman, much less be in charge of a million dollar a year budget. A 1.96 GPA is embarrassingly laughable. Had his uncle not be sitting in a city manager position hiring as much of his family as he can, Sneed would be flipping burgers at McDonald's, if that. Sure, things like permits, and stuff like that may sound impressive but it's as illegal as hell to suppress that preacher. Sneed messed up, Sneed got busted and Sneed will indeed pay his dues for it. I intend on helping the preacher more than God himself will help the man. I know how it all works. I also want to see just how far uncle Frank will go...I'm betting self preservation will override DNA...In any event, it sure will be an interesting ride, that will be for sure. Yep, it doesn't pay to piss off the wrong people, does it?

[firebug]

Free of speech is fine but you a racist you need to keep your mouth shut. I think that people have a right to say things but when you use signs and other racial remarks then you get things out of hand. People want to agree but he isn't a preacher, if he was he wouldn't be making this protest in different towns. And on top of it all we as people need to be better than that because would you want him to come into your town should dead babies on a poster with your kids around.

[Harold]

Who knows? Maybe the FBI will look into the Preacher boy and find things such as other preachers recently outed for oh let's say financial problems. Just because you request the FBI, doesn't mean they don't look at you too!

[kennedy4882]

firebug wrote:

Free of speech is fine but you a racist you need to keep your mouth shut. I think that people have a right to say things but when you use signs and other racial remarks then you get things out of hand. People want to agree but he isn't a preacher, if he was he wouldn't be making this protest in different towns. And on top of it all we as people need to be better than that because would you want him to come into your town should dead babies on a poster with your kids around.

If this guy is the same one I am thinking of he is from Dunlap. Does anyone know? If its the same one I have heard about this guy and his signs for a long time, why all the fuss now? Wether he is a "preacher" or not doesn't and shouldn't matter! I f he commited a crime he should pay the consequences.Although i have to say, aside from the racism I agree with the general direction he is pointing. Illegal immigrants should not be allowed to work in local factories nor be granted non-taxed wages! I also agree with him on abortion.

[Gracie1964]

kennedy4882 wrote:

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If this guy is the same one I am thinking of he is from Dunlap. Does anyone know? If its the same one I have heard about this guy and his signs for a long time, why all the fuss now? Wether he is a "preacher" or not doesn't and shouldn't matter! I f he commited a crime he should pay the consequences.Although i have to say, aside from the racism I agree with the general direction he is pointing. Illegal immigrants should not be allowed to work in local factories nor be granted non-taxed wages! I also agree with him on abortion.

Let's not forget, whether we agree with this man's opinion or not, he has just that, the right to have his own opinion, just as each and everyone of us all do. However, on that particular day, it seems to me his right to peacefully assemble and protest was clearly violated.

[Gracie1964_]

P.S. If anyone wants a great cornbread receipe just email me

[Tenn native in GA]

We all have seen the people from churches standing on street corners holding their bibles and preaching to all that drives by. Are they in the wrong? We also see the ones trying to raise money for their group, and they are holding signs, are they in the wrong? We see signs everywhere, at home, work, the store, on the roads, are those all in the wrong? What is right and what is wrong? FREE SPEACH isn't FREE if you can't speak your mind. And a sign is a way to speak your mind. Why is that wrong? If we see a sign, are we suppose to ignore it? Is that what they want us to do? If that is their answer, then when a person is running for office, we should ignore them, if there is a fundraiser and we see a sign, are we to ignore it? What about the FREE SPEACH law on the books? What are we to do? Maybe someone needs to go on national tv and explain this to me, because I do not see what is wrong with FREE SPEACH, but someone disagrees. Pracher or not, you have the right to speak up. It's when we DO NOT speak up, that noone knows what is going on. Was that it? They did not want anyone to know what was really going on? Could someone be COVERING UP a problem, and they don't want you to know what it is? A cop wears a sign, called a badge, why don't we ignore it? Why don't someone place signs everywhere, about what they see is wrong with the Gov't? With the Police? With the way the cities are being ran? FREE SPEACH, that is what I say. I pray for all that has been done wrong. I also pray for the ones that are judging, for it is written in the Bible in 1st COR. chapter 6, verse 5 and I am not quoting exact, that we are not the ones to do the judging, the one that can judge us is GOD himself. FREE SPEACH. FREE SPEACH. FREE SPEACH. FREE SPEACH.

[BUTTERFLYS ARE FREE]

hill billy wrote:

dayton like pikeville loves cheap labor[wet backs]...look into how many sneed works on other jobs,,every one in power in dayton works wet backs,,maybe some one should get i.c.s. to do there job...bust these people,,,rhea county goverment would need all new people..

I remember Thea County back in the day. It was nothing to burn out the unwanted, concrete boot the miscreants, cross out the dissadents.

What happened to them good ole' daze???

[BUTTERFLYS ARE FREE]

*Rhea County

[wolfeagle]

I agree with pretty much everyone here. It shouldn't matter if the guy is a preacher or fell out of the devil's ass, he has the right to protest. Deny him that right is tantamount to dening it to the rest of us. Like Ben Franklin said, either we hang to gether or HANG seperately... Police is an idealogy that is built up in minds to scare people into towing the line. Too bad I don't have 15 dozen lives just this one, therefore, I suppose I am not very good at taking orders especially orders from dumbber subordinant people, sorry.

[Bout time]

Maybe they were doing it for his own protection. When somebody exhibits racist signs, it's possible the ones at whom the sign is directed may seek revenge.

I don't think it was the preaching they got the police on his case, I think it was the sign.

[NightSerf]

The usual method of protecting protesters is to set up a cordon, not to deny the Constitutional right to protest. I agree that the language on the sigh was inflammatory, but the purpose of protest is often to promote unpopular views; to protect only the rights of those we agree with is to oppose the most basic principles of the Constitution.

[Montrose 1973]

firebug wrote:

Free of speech is fine but you a racist you need to keep your mouth shut. I think that people have a right to say things but when you use signs and other racial remarks then you get things out of hand. People want to agree but he isn't a preacher, if he was he wouldn't be making this protest in different towns. And on top of it all we as people need to be better than that because would you want him to come into your town should dead babies on a poster with your kids around.

STFU

[Bout time]

NightSerf wrote:

The usual method of protecting protesters is to set up a cordon, not to deny the Constitutional right to protest. I agree that the language on the sigh was inflammatory, but the purpose of protest is often to promote unpopular views; to protect only the rights of those we agree with is to oppose the most basic principles of the Constitution.

They can set up a cordon if they want, but that's not going to protect the guy when he goes home. His kind of free speech is intended to inflame people. When you do something know is dangerous, you can expect it may come back to haunt you. I think they were trying to keep him from incurring the wrath (and possible violence) from those he was protesting. What good could his sign possibly do? People who have strong feelings on the issue are not likely to change because of his sign. All he's doing is drawing attention to himself in a dangerous way. And after his complaints about the police, who do you think he'll call when somebody perpetrates violence on him?

[Peacemaker]

This has nothing to do with illegal immigration. He's referring to anyone who is of Mexican heritage. Small minded people don't accept that those with Mexican heritage can be Americans too. Small minded people have to use racial slurs like "Wetbacks." Simple minded people don't realize that it is the companies hiring illegals that are the "bad guys." These companies take advantage of workers, and if you don't like it they say they will pull up stakes and go to China. They hire people from temp agencies that don't keep records because they know they are fake. If the preacher wants to stop immigration problems, he needs to picket the companies that are hiring them, not insult the whole Hispanic population, many of which are skilled, hard working LEGAL aliens or Mexican-Americans.

[wolfeagle]

Bout time wrote:

Maybe they were doing it for his own protection. When somebody exhibits racist signs, it's possible the ones at whom the sign is directed may seek revenge.
I don't think it was the preaching they got the police on his case, I think it was the sign.

Then isn't why we have "police"? Once we all start thinking that certain things are better left unsaid then it won't be long before we all are too scared to speak out due to fear. Officials love to suppress UNTIL they retire, are fired, are jailed, are ousted, etc. THEN they do not want government intrusion then. Humans are nothing more than a unique mamal with very predictable qualities. Then again some of these freaks are too damn stupid to be classified as "unique".

[wolfeagle]

Bout time wrote:

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They can set up a cordon if they want, but that's not going to protect the guy when he goes home. His kind of free speech is intended to inflame people. When you do something know is dangerous, you can expect it may come back to haunt you. I think they were trying to keep him from incurring the wrath (and possible violence) from those he was protesting. What good could his sign possibly do? People who have strong feelings on the issue are not likely to change because of his sign. All he's doing is drawing attention to himself in a dangerous way. And after his complaints about the police, who do you think he'll call when somebody perpetrates violence on him?

Perhaps his sign was indeed designed to "inflame" people. How many times have you sat in church and listen to a preacher scream and holler about the devil, demons, gnashing of damn teeth...words directed under the guise of theology to INFLAME the mind so as to keep the soul from FLAME. Also, look what he has done. He achieved a story, created awareness and will probably in all likelyhood have a police chief that I know could only accomplish a paultry 1.96 GPA in school fired along with his fossil ass'd uncle. Yep, Roy said that... See, I defend MY right to free speech and I know exactly how to use it effectively... People want to bend rules and cheat, then IF they do it under some sort of legal authority then it isn't legal is it?: I have always advocated that IF a cop violates the law on me then he isn't acting lawful and is not afforded any immunity for such. Then, as a means to equality I too can become just as lawless with the exception being I am not stupid, well, perhaps stupid is a harsh word so I'll use DUMB. How's that?

[Ever_wonder]

Hey RoyCrakstonWolfeagle, when did this happen? How long ago? Other than giving the man the number to the FBI office, what else could you possibly do? You weren't involved in this. You are not a lawyer, and you are not law enforcement. Exactly what type of "help" do you give out? You do realize that giving legal advice with a REAL law degree is against the law, don't you. You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not a lawyer. Law school takes dedication and hard work; two traits you have never shown.