Japanese Often Rude to Gaijin

Japanese Often Rude to Gaijin

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Outta Sight

Overland Park, KS

#1 Jan 29, 2009
Formerly living in Tokyo, I noticed that sharing a sidewalk with a "J" can be hazardous to your health. Time and time again, I would have been knocked off the sidewalk completely if I had not stopped and turned sideways (and I'm not fat) so some "J" could walk by and not make any eye contact. They could be walking alone or with someone, but they have no problem running into you. I'm not talking about the high-population areas, but areas where you pass someone every minute or two. It seems as if they don't even recognize you as a person, but perhaps some inanimate object. If a "J" has some sort of relationship with you, they are polite, but if they don't, it's like you don't exist. Not to mention those who walk their dogs and just let them take over the sidewalk and you have to stop and move out of the way so they can pass - again while making no eye contact. "J" have a reputation of being shy around strangers, when it's really rudeness!
JaSan

Takeo, Japan

#2 Apr 7, 2009
Outta Sight wrote:
Formerly living in Tokyo, I noticed that sharing a sidewalk with a "J" can be hazardous to your health. Time and time again, I would have been knocked off the sidewalk completely if I had not stopped and turned sideways (and I'm not fat) so some "J" could walk by and not make any eye contact. They could be walking alone or with someone, but they have no problem running into you. I'm not talking about the high-population areas, but areas where you pass someone every minute or two. It seems as if they don't even recognize you as a person, but perhaps some inanimate object. If a "J" has some sort of relationship with you, they are polite, but if they don't, it's like you don't exist. Not to mention those who walk their dogs and just let them take over the sidewalk and you have to stop and move out of the way so they can pass - again while making no eye contact. "J" have a reputation of being shy around strangers, when it's really rudeness!
Hey you have to take into account that situations differ not all of Japan is like you say and not all J (nihonjin) folk do as you have mentioned. But i see your point as foreigners do experience situations they would not have in thier respective countries.
Im half Japanese and i dont give way to anyone i see wont move out of my way and if they have a problem its their right to say so. But ill be waiting to respond.
do-mo

Tokyo, Japan

#3 Jul 2, 2009
First of all, stop calling us "J", you paranoid.
You should have wider view, it is not because you are a 外人, that is just how unhappy people walk.. You should understand them since you are one of them, writing your 愚痴 up here..
I think you are trying to make racism out of small things that happens to you daily.
Enjoy the culture difference.. if you can't go back home with your super wide street. If you have one, you pasant.
Outta Sight wrote:
Formerly living in Tokyo, I noticed that sharing a sidewalk with a "J" can be hazardous to your health. Time and time again, I would have been knocked off the sidewalk completely if I had not stopped and turned sideways (and I'm not fat) so some "J" could walk by and not make any eye contact. They could be walking alone or with someone, but they have no problem running into you. I'm not talking about the high-population areas, but areas where you pass someone every minute or two. It seems as if they don't even recognize you as a person, but perhaps some inanimate object. If a "J" has some sort of relationship with you, they are polite, but if they don't, it's like you don't exist. Not to mention those who walk their dogs and just let them take over the sidewalk and you have to stop and move out of the way so they can pass - again while making no eye contact. "J" have a reputation of being shy around strangers, when it's really rudeness!
TNMTMAN

Kawasaki, Japan

#4 Oct 10, 2009
Well, you deserve it. Try bathing once in a while. And stop picking your nose in public.
Dreamgirl

Hirakata, Japan

#5 Oct 14, 2009
Outta Sight wrote:
Not to mention those who walk their dogs and just let them take over the sidewalk and you have to stop and move out of the way so they can pass - again while making no eye contact.
No eye contact bothers me a lot too. That dog was rude! At least he did not pee on your shoe, which has happened to me many a time. Many dogs will take a dump on the sidewalk, and then just sit nearby waiting to see who is first to step in it.

Since: Sep 09

Japan

#6 Nov 7, 2009
Japanese and Westerners are both very rude. They should kill each other to make earth a better place to live for humankind.

Since: Sep 09

Japan

#7 Nov 7, 2009
do-mo wrote:
First of all, stop calling us "J", you paranoid.
You should have wider view, it is not because you are a 外人, that is just how unhappy people walk.. You should understand them since you are one of them, writing your 愚痴 up here..
I think you are trying to make racism out of small things that happens to you daily.
Enjoy the culture difference.. if you can't go back home with your super wide street. If you have one, you pasant.
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Japanese is very rude. I hate them. They all are 5 years old spoiled babies. They should use their technologies to fix their brain (oh yes, I suspect their brains are broken).

They think their country is the best place to live. But when they go to other countries, they will realize that their country is the worst place to live in. That's why many Japanese especially women want to leave the country forever.

But don't worry, by the statistics, Japanese will be extinct soon, And the world will become much better place to live in.
shoo

Tokyo, Japan

#8 Dec 8, 2009
The Japanese are more often rude to the Japanese. I am Japanese and my parents are both Japanese, and I don't like Japanese. ggrooe said they are 5 yr old spoiled babies and I feel the same way. They don't even say "excuse me" or "sorry" when they push me out on the train or any other public spots. Even at a bench or something at a shopping center, and suppose you will say, "is it ok if I sit?" they will ignore you totally.(not all the time but it happens.) I personally think that most of the people out there (especially in Tokyo, Chiba and Saitama area) are having mental problems. They just don't speak up.

Maybe it's a culture here. I remember I spoke to a Japanese salaryman with a formal suit on in the evening (I was wearing my suits like other salarymen out there), saying "Are you in line?" - He was standing around the line for my bus. He didn't say anything but just quickly shook his head like a 3 yr old kid does. At other times, they will be a little upset, panicked or bothered. I know why they do it. I'm also Japanese. They just don't want anyone to speak to them, which breaks their secure & comfortable space. But without saying anything, it will create another frustration.

- So you have 2 options:

1. Ask (speak up) to avoid a trouble but you may be ignored or be treated as a wierdo or something.
2. Don't ask (speak up) to avoid being ignored or be treated as a wierdo but you may have troubles about the seat or getting into the buildings/trains oranything you might be doing.

And don't forget. There more than 30,000 people commiting suicide each year. Also news programs are reporting on killing of family members. Parents kill children, and children kill parents. I hear this kind of news almost every day...


Sadly I was born here and was raised here. I need to accept all this except I have any chance to leave this country. This is a nation wide sick. I am taking that way about those people. they just can't communicate. They even avoid that although they say to themselves "I'm lonely...I have no one who understands me."

Since: Sep 09

Japan

#9 Dec 10, 2009
I like your speech. And please forgive me for the harsh critics I did.

The most problematic habit of Japanese in my place is they are like to disturb other people. In library where you should read silently, I always find that if there are some guys try to concentrate on their reading, other Japanese will come closer and make noisy sound like pretending to cough, kicking the table, make loud noise with newspapers, etc. And the most strange thing is: the ones who get disturbed are not necessarily the ones who are angry, rather the trouble makers are the ones with very emotional faces.

The second most problematic with Japanese in my place is the car drivers. When you ride bicycle or just passing through the road (green sign of course), and if you are foreigners, it is likely (in my case it is very likely if I dress and behave like martial artist :>) some random cars will move toward you with intention to hit you. Oh yes they didn't actually do it. They just show off that they have the ability to hit you.

So for you foreigners, just bring your camera with you when you go out. Take pictures of all cars that try to hit you and send me the pictures if you wish. I will make a blog about this phenomena. I myself have already had some picture of the cars and have intention to publish it in a blog.

Of course you can create your own blog about it. But please share it with others by putting your blog address here. I can be contacted at xrrha [at] yahoo [dot] com (yes that my email address).
shoo wrote:
The Japanese are more often rude to the Japanese. I am Japanese and my parents are both Japanese, and I don't like Japanese. ggrooe said they are 5 yr old spoiled babies and I feel the same way. They don't even say "excuse me" or "sorry" when they push me out on the train or any other public spots. Even at a bench or something at a shopping center, and suppose you will say, "is it ok if I sit?" they will ignore you totally.(not all the time but it happens.) I personally think that most of the people out there (especially in Tokyo, Chiba and Saitama area) are having mental problems. They just don't speak up.
Maybe it's a culture here. I remember I spoke to a Japanese salaryman with a formal suit on in the evening (I was wearing my suits like other salarymen out there), saying "Are you in line?" - He was standing around the line for my bus. He didn't say anything but just quickly shook his head like a 3 yr old kid does. At other times, they will be a little upset, panicked or bothered. I know why they do it. I'm also Japanese. They just don't want anyone to speak to them, which breaks their secure & comfortable space. But without saying anything, it will create another frustration.
- So you have 2 options:
1. Ask (speak up) to avoid a trouble but you may be ignored or be treated as a wierdo or something.
2. Don't ask (speak up) to avoid being ignored or be treated as a wierdo but you may have troubles about the seat or getting into the buildings/trains oranything you might be doing.
And don't forget. There more than 30,000 people commiting suicide each year. Also news programs are reporting on killing of family members. Parents kill children, and children kill parents. I hear this kind of news almost every day...
Sadly I was born here and was raised here. I need to accept all this except I have any chance to leave this country. This is a nation wide sick. I am taking that way about those people. they just can't communicate. They even avoid that although they say to themselves "I'm lonely...I have no one who understands me."
shoo

Tokyo, Japan

#10 Dec 13, 2009
seriously, i have been thinking about bring my camera when going out, and i think i will be doing that on weekends.

it's a very good idea that you create a blog about the phenomena. i will send you my pictures when i can. i should be good for the japanese too because they don't know what they are doing.
ggrooe wrote:
I like your speech. And please forgive me for the harsh critics I did.
The most problematic habit of Japanese in my place is they are like to disturb other people. In library where you should read silently, I always find that if there are some guys try to concentrate on their reading, other Japanese will come closer and make noisy sound like pretending to cough, kicking the table, make loud noise with newspapers, etc. And the most strange thing is: the ones who get disturbed are not necessarily the ones who are angry, rather the trouble makers are the ones with very emotional faces.
The second most problematic with Japanese in my place is the car drivers. When you ride bicycle or just passing through the road (green sign of course), and if you are foreigners, it is likely (in my case it is very likely if I dress and behave like martial artist :>) some random cars will move toward you with intention to hit you. Oh yes they didn't actually do it. They just show off that they have the ability to hit you.
So for you foreigners, just bring your camera with you when you go out. Take pictures of all cars that try to hit you and send me the pictures if you wish. I will make a blog about this phenomena. I myself have already had some picture of the cars and have intention to publish it in a blog.
Of course you can create your own blog about it. But please share it with others by putting your blog address here. I can be contacted at xrrha [at] yahoo [dot] com (yes that my email address).
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Jim

Knoxville, TN

#11 Jan 31, 2010
I find some adult (grown up, 40+) Japanese women selfish and infantile. They would visit someone's house and cook dinner for themselves at the house they stay at and not offer to others. Or they will comment as kids on other people talking on the phone, sometimes throw things at you or do other rude infantile things. Or they will not help to keep up the house even if asked. Other Japanese women clean the house without being asked, which is nice. It depends, but some are really silently rude, rude by their acting and doing things. Then they explain that their parents never loved them, nor gave them gifts, so they don't give gifts to their kids either. Suc women talk to their kids as if their kids were their roommates.
Jim

Knoxville, TN

#12 Jan 31, 2010
I also want to say when I was a kid I was fascinated by (the old) Japanese culture. Now I am not so interested in the modern Japan apart from their old culture and arts. Many Japanese act as freaks, they are lonely, they don't want to be lonely yet they do everything to remain lonely and unhappy. And they often are (silently) angry and stubborn. Japanese women say that Japanese men are the worst in the world and that Japanese women are the best. Perhaps some Japanese women are quite nice, but many are kind of depressed and are always sleepy and not communicative, they think japan is best and they are sarcastic about anything foreign yet they want to leave Japan and live overseas, but often Japanese women are kind of not giving to say the least, with the lack of other words.

Since: Sep 09

Japan

#13 Jan 31, 2010
Jim wrote:
I also want to say when I was a kid I was fascinated by (the old) Japanese culture. Now I am not so interested in the modern Japan apart from their old culture and arts. Many Japanese act as freaks, they are lonely, they don't want to be lonely yet they do everything to remain lonely and unhappy. And they often are (silently) angry and stubborn. Japanese women say that Japanese men are the worst in the world and that Japanese women are the best. Perhaps some Japanese women are quite nice, but many are kind of depressed and are always sleepy and not communicative, they think japan is best and they are sarcastic about anything foreign yet they want to leave Japan and live overseas, but often Japanese women are kind of not giving to say the least, with the lack of other words.
You said everything I want to, except sleepy. Japanese yawns if they want to show you they dislike you. Take it lightly, it's just their habit (a really bad one). Just reply it by widely opening your mouth. Sound stupid, eh :), but it's refreshing to see their reaction.

I almost never see Japanese natural yawning. All yawning are fake to show their hatred toward others, which become big problem for people like me who usually yawn to give more oxygen to the brain.

So, in the office, I cannot stretch my body and cannot yawn. For Japanese perhaps no problem because they have good metabolism. But it is big problem for me because my metabolism is not as good as theirs, so I need some stretching and yawning to keep me fresh.
Holmes

Tokyo, Japan

#14 Mar 1, 2010
do-mo wrote:
Enjoy the culture difference.. if you can't go back home with your super wide street. If you have one, you pasant.
<quoted text>
Not if its a stupid "culture difference". I was almost hit by a truck in Tokyo because the driver wasnt making eye contact. I know its hard for Japanese to do this, my driving instructor told me he had to keep failing one Japanese trying to get a licence in Britain because he just WOULDNT LOOK.

This is a weird thing, not practical, has no advantage, and is just latent HIKIKOMORI behaviour. It is anti social, and dangerous.

BTW, its only TOKYO that is so weird. The Streets in Hiroshima are wider, and the people are more direct. As are Osaka, Kansai people. They are more creative.

Its only stifled, superfical psychotic Tokyo that is so very weird.
cecille

Fujisawa, Japan

#15 Mar 1, 2010
shoo wrote:
The Japanese are more often rude to the Japanese. I am Japanese and my parents are both Japanese, and I don't like Japanese. ggrooe said they are 5 yr old spoiled babies and I feel the same way. They don't even say "excuse me" or "sorry" when they push me out on the train or any other public spots. Even at a bench or something at a shopping center, and suppose you will say, "is it ok if I sit?" they will ignore you totally.(not all the time but it happens.) I personally think that most of the people out there (especially in Tokyo, Chiba and Saitama area) are having mental problems. They just don't speak up.
Maybe it's a culture here. I remember I spoke to a Japanese salaryman with a formal suit on in the evening (I was wearing my suits like other salarymen out there), saying "Are you in line?" - He was standing around the line for my bus. He didn't say anything but just quickly shook his head like a 3 yr old kid does. At other times, they will be a little upset, panicked or bothered. I know why they do it. I'm also Japanese. They just don't want anyone to speak to them, which breaks their secure & comfortable space. But without saying anything, it will create another frustration.
- So you have 2 options:
1. Ask (speak up) to avoid a trouble but you may be ignored or be treated as a wierdo or something.
2. Don't ask (speak up) to avoid being ignored or be treated as a wierdo but you may have troubles about the seat or getting into the buildings/trains oranything you might be doing.
And don't forget. There more than 30,000 people commiting suicide each year. Also news programs are reporting on killing of family members. Parents kill children, and children kill parents. I hear this kind of news almost every day...
Sadly I was born here and was raised here. I need to accept all this except I have any chance to leave this country. This is a nation wide sick. I am taking that way about those people. they just can't communicate. They even avoid that although they say to themselves "I'm lonely...I have no one who understands me."
I understand what you feel inside,bit don't be dissapointed with this kind of people.Go ahead for what you think! that's you ,the real you!!!!!!! I'm so very proud of you that you voice out what's inside your heart.Don't mind them! You know "BETTER THAN THEM"!Me also i'm just like you but now no more to waste my time for them,co'z in this world we are all different!!!!!!!
cecille

Fujisawa, Japan

#16 Mar 1, 2010
Hello
Outta Sight wrote:
Formerly living in Tokyo, I noticed that sharing a sidewalk with a "J" can be hazardous to your health. Time and time again, I would have been knocked off the sidewalk completely if I had not stopped and turned sideways (and I'm not fat) so some "J" could walk by and not make any eye contact. They could be walking alone or with someone, but they have no problem running into you. I'm not talking about the high-population areas, but areas where you pass someone every minute or two. It seems as if they don't even recognize you as a person, but perhaps some inanimate object. If a "J" has some sort of relationship with you, they are polite, but if they don't, it's like you don't exist. Not to mention those who walk their dogs and just let them take over the sidewalk and you have to stop and move out of the way so they can pass - again while making no eye contact. "J" have a reputation of being shy around strangers, when it's really rudeness!
Hello!!!!!!! Everyone in this world is different!!!!!!!I also walk with my dog but every time i am the one who great them with a smile and on the next day they are the one who is saying "OHAYO"etc...I am a stranger too living in japan for 25 years.
Holmes

Tokyo, Japan

#17 Mar 1, 2010
cecille wrote:
Hello<quoted text>Hello!!!!!!! Everyone in this world is different!!!!!!!I also walk with my dog but every time i am the one who great them with a smile and on the next day they are the one who is saying "OHAYO"etc...I am a stranger too living in japan for 25 years.
ok, what you are saying is the Japanese are basically hikikomori, because they lack common coutesy or civil sense and you somehow need to put in the effort and "educate" them.Well, fair enough but its tiring!

In the Uk, if someone accidently pushes or brushes up against someone on the train, you must say sorry (or risk a fist in the face).

In Tokyo/Osaka, no one EVER says sorry on the train-I was surprised by ths-and they behave ridiculously, like it is a rugby scrum.This of course is why CHIKAN (sexual gropers) can get away with it.

Japanese saying "When away from home, have no shame".

If they dont KNOW you, they dont give a toss about you. No public empathy.

THAT is the difference, and its not a good one.
cecille from japam

Fujisawa, Japan

#18 Mar 1, 2010
Holmes wrote:
<quoted text>
ok, what you are saying is the Japanese are basically hikikomori, because they lack common coutesy or civil sense and you somehow need to put in the effort and "educate" them.Well, fair enough but its tiring!
In the Uk, if someone accidently pushes or brushes up against someone on the train, you must say sorry (or risk a fist in the face).
In Tokyo/Osaka, no one EVER says sorry on the train-I was surprised by ths-and they behave ridiculously, like it is a rugby scrum.This of course is why CHIKAN (sexual gropers) can get away with it.
Japanese saying "When away from home, have no shame".
If they dont KNOW you, they dont give a toss about you. No public empathy.
THAT is the difference, and its not a good one.
You are taking it seriously!!!!!!Not all them isn't it??????? Is that early in the morning "Rush Hours"???

Since: Sep 09

Japan

#19 Mar 1, 2010
Holmes wrote:
<quoted text>
ok, what you are saying is the Japanese are basically hikikomori, because they lack common coutesy or civil sense and you somehow need to put in the effort and "educate" them.Well, fair enough but its tiring!
From wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori )
"According to psychologist Tamaki Sait&#333;, who first coined the phrase, there may be one million hikikomori in Japan, representing 20% of all male adolescents in Japan, or 1% of the total Japanese population."

So, about one out of five male adolescents are doing hikikomori. It can explain very well why so many hikikomori in my apartment. They are really busy attacking each others by making unnecessary noise like knocking the door, kicking the floor, etc.

I wonder why they don't get along together as they are all unemployed and stay at the apartment almost all time.
no excuse

Brampton, Canada

#20 Mar 2, 2010
Japanese of all ages are rude, the old ladies judge passer by's (loudly) the mid. age men are more concerned about their libido (so wear pants)the 30-20 somethings are so concerned about social status they do ANYTHING to rise up above their peers. And the children are learning to be raceit from their parents.
Japanese in other counties , is where the real problem is. When they come to your home town and still treat people like objects or animal shit on the side walk. Thats when they make people racest against them..and they deserve it.
If you've ever had a japanese friend then you know the potential of a severe back stabbing. They are manipulative, liers, cheaters that have no problem ruining anothers life to make themselve look better.
The other thing i want to say is if you plan on acting like that in Canada we will hate you so just stay the fuck home!! We dont want that type of people here! plus we already have our own sluts (to the yellow busses)

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