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New UC admissions policy gives white students a better chance,...

There are 56 comments on the San Jose Mercury News story from Mar 31, 2009, titled New UC admissions policy gives white students a better chance,.... In it, San Jose Mercury News reports that:

A new University of California admissions policy, adopted to increase campus diversity, could actually increase the number of white students on campuses while driving down the Asian population.

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MirrorOfDahomey

Las Vegas, NV

#24 Apr 29, 2009
Yep wrote:
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I used to think that all the wailing about AA by various minority groups were efforts to get their spot at the table. Now that virtually everyone except White males are protected and represented in attendance, employment, management etc the whining has more to do with getting more and more than what would be considered fair. Take for example the AA case in New Haven, Ct where White firefighters were denied promotion because Black firefighters didn't pass the same test that they did. Instead of taking the best person at least by the defined standards they instead deny others in order to sate certain minority groups. Asians who are complaining now are complaining based on the thought that Whites might get more when their argument would be considered moot if the beneficiaries of the new policy would be more Hispanics or Blacks. So the politically correct theory goes that it's ok for minority groups to practice racism if it's against Whites but not against other minority groups, at least not publicly. Asians had no problem with AA when it benefitted them but now that they are considered among the mainstream population wise(in the UC system) they are getting the same treatment Whites have been subjected to for the last 20 years. WAAAAAAAA
Yes and again, of course those black firefighters didn't pass the test, because the people that administered the test were making sure it looked like they didn't pass.

In order to keep up the stereotype that black people are not as smart as white people, they change black people's test scores to make whites look superior.

And of course the latinos are going to chime in because they want to be apart of white people.

The people that give the test can do whatever they want with your results, how would you know if your result is true or not with all of these bigots running around?

I know they deliberately changed the results of the tests to make it look like the blacks were not qualified. Just like the old days, you white people are still either screwing someone over or you are keeping up your hatred.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#25 Apr 29, 2009
Jari wrote:
<quoted text>Affirmative Actions benifits others besides blacks...Hispanics should be the last people to complain about AA...
The problem is in cities like Compton where over 80% of the city workers are Afro American but over 60% of the city population is Hispanic. Hispanic are saying 60% of all new hires and promotion should go to Hispanic which of course the Afro American community opposes.
samizdat literature

Staten Island, NY

#26 Apr 29, 2009
As a republican I clearly support the basis of Affirmative Action. Without it, there are very few contingencies in place to eliminate the possibilities of discrimination towards blacks and other minorities.

Get rid of AA, and you're basically banking on white people's "good will" to do the right thing, something I wouldn't exactly gamble my future with.
MirrorOfDahomey

Las Vegas, NV

#27 Apr 29, 2009
samizdat literature wrote:
As a republican I clearly support the basis of Affirmative Action. Without it, there are very few contingencies in place to eliminate the possibilities of discrimination towards blacks and other minorities.
Get rid of AA, and you're basically banking on white people's "good will" to do the right thing, something I wouldn't exactly gamble my future with.
EXACTLY, Because "white" people don't have good will.
They have a mission to stay in power and to keep up their privelegd treatment.
Rani

Rochester, MN

#28 Apr 29, 2009
samizdat literature wrote:
As a republican I clearly support the basis of Affirmative Action. Without it, there are very few contingencies in place to eliminate the possibilities of discrimination towards blacks and other minorities.
Get rid of AA, and you're basically banking on white people's "good will" to do the right thing, something I wouldn't exactly gamble my future with.
I understand your rationale but in some instances, Affirmative Action has gone too far IMHO. For instance, did you know that the average MCAT score for an African American or Hispanic student admitted to medical school is lower than the mean of a white or Asian (including Indian) student that was rejected. And white Cubans are considered as Hispanics. In what way have they been disadvantaged?

Colleges should be completely merit-based. I can understand if AA is only used if all other factors are equal but that's not how it's currenly implemented.
samizdat literature

Staten Island, NY

#29 Apr 29, 2009
MirrorOfDahomey wrote:
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EXACTLY, Because "white" people don't have good will.
They have a mission to stay in power and to keep up their privelegd treatment.
Yup, that's the way that I see. All this talk about "it should be about merit" is just talk, because we all know that opportunities are rarely based soley on a single degree of formal qualifications.
Yep

Vallejo, CA

#30 Apr 29, 2009
MirrorOfDahomey wrote:
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EXACTLY, Because "white" people don't have good will.
They have a mission to stay in power and to keep up their privelegd treatment.
Do you troll Topix often or is this new for you?
Ronin

Versailles, KY

#31 Apr 29, 2009
MirrorOfDahomey wrote:
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EXACTLY, Because "white" people don't have good will.
They have a mission to stay in power and to keep up their privelegd treatment.
Maybe if "white people" droped their bitch aditude and stopped treating everyone else like second class citisens, everyone else would be more inclinded to give them a little more respect and not roll their eyes every time they claim to be the "victim".
Human Power

United States

#32 Apr 29, 2009
MirrorOfDahomey wrote:
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Yes, i do see how stupid and redundant YOU are.
There already is, a white pride day
so take your neo-nazi loud mouth back to the Stormfront website you came from.
The ku klux klan has been around for over 100 years with white holidays and pride,
so your dumb comment makes no sense!
AND David Duke has a NAAWP, and his klan
member friend don black owns stormfront.
There has always been plenty of
"i'm white and i'm better than you" holidays.
You're an idiot and you proved my pint for me. It's funny that you call me a "neo-con". I'm not white, and I am an atheist. The KKK is racist, right? But having all the pardades, etc. that I mentioned before aren't. That's simply backwards and stupid! How about "Human Day"? Your anger is scary.
MirrorOfDahomey

Las Vegas, NV

#33 Apr 29, 2009
Ronin wrote:
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Maybe if "white people" droped their bitch aditude and stopped treating everyone else like second class citisens, everyone else would be more inclinded to give them a little more respect and not roll their eyes every time they claim to be the "victim".
Yes, we already know what's going on when "white" people talk about playing fair.
We aren't stupid, we know they have never been fair. They have always been about giving themselves special treatment because they think they are superior to anyone that is not white.
Human Power

United States

#34 Apr 29, 2009
Ronin wrote:
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Maybe if "white people" droped their **** aditude and stopped treating everyone else like second class citisens, everyone else would be more inclinded to give them a little more respect and not roll their eyes every time they claim to be the "victim".
"Aditude"? "Citisens"? "Inclinded"? Maybe if you were educated you could make an ACTUAL point! Go back to school, buddy!
Human Power

United States

#35 Apr 29, 2009
pssst....it's attitude, citizens, and inclined

Since: Apr 08

TRUE SELF-MASTERY

#36 Apr 29, 2009
this race shit never ends does it?
Rani

Rochester, MN

#37 Apr 29, 2009
samizdat literature wrote:
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Yup, that's the way that I see. All this talk about "it should be about merit" is just talk, because we all know that opportunities are rarely based soley on a single degree of formal qualifications.
What's your objection of merit-based entrance into colleges? Discard both affirmative action admissions and legacy admissions.

The Big Time

“Runs Like a Deere”

Since: Jan 07

Forest Park, GA

#38 Apr 29, 2009
Rules are Rules,... Time has come when just hating whitey ain't enough, you are going to have to Prove your argument,...
Ding Aling

Los Angeles, CA

#39 Apr 29, 2009
What? UC don't stand for University of China?
Ronin

Versailles, KY

#40 Apr 29, 2009
Ding Aling wrote:
What? UC don't stand for University of China?
University of Califonia.

“a good community is OUR job”

Since: Mar 09

Pasadena

#41 Apr 29, 2009
As a white man, I've always been in favor of a purely merit based system. If this means more Asians, as a percentage, are taking the top slots.. then this just means other groups need to work harder.

I live near a predominantly Asian city, and as a generalization, I definitely see a hard core push to excel in academics in the Asian community...

The world will continue to get more competitive. If we as a society don't adapt, we'll be left behind... and most of the job/ wealth creation will be in other parts of the world (like India and East Asia.. happening already), and we will become the country of manual labor.

So, I applaud the Asian community for generally raising the bar... looks like some of us have some catching up to do.
Escape CA

Carson, CA

#42 Apr 29, 2009
MirrorOfDahomey wrote:
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Yes and again, of course those black firefighters didn't pass the test, because the people that administered the test were making sure it looked like they didn't pass.

I know they deliberately changed the results of the tests to make it look like the blacks were not qualified. Just like the old days, you white people are still either screwing someone over or you are keeping up your hatred.
Hey dumbazz, I'll bet you're "not a good test taker" ...

Nobody changed the test scores. Shut up with your racial paranoia; it's not helping anything.

Bottom line: race should not even be a consideration, in college admissions or anything else. Performance is what matters.
samizdat literature

Staten Island, NY

#43 Apr 29, 2009
Rani wrote:
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What's your objection of merit-based entrance into colleges? Discard both affirmative action admissions and legacy admissions.
I'm all for "merit" based admissions. I'm just not nieve enough to believe that the admissions will be based on merit alone. If you disagree, simply take a look back at what admissions was like BEFORE Affirmative Action came into play and there's your answer.

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