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What a stupid idea.But was he not beatified when interred in Wesminster Abbey. How amny suffered because of this nasty potician?!
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Right-Wing Revolutionist
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Let me guess, you're an immigrant right?
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Krypteia
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DAK wrote: What a stupid idea.But was he not beatified when interred in Wesminster Abbey. How amny suffered because of this nasty potician?! Nasty politician?for telling the truth, unlike this labour scum
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What's this got to do with Japan?
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DAK wrote: What a stupid idea.But was he not beatified when interred in Wesminster Abbey. How amny suffered because of this nasty potician?! a lot of us have suffered from nasty immigrants since then.
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This article says: "Much of what became known as Paki-bashing can be traced to the impact of his speeches".
I lived through this period and believe this statement to be wrong. The criminals who 'paki-bashed' Irish bashed and anybody-they-met bashed, much as today. I have never thought Mr Powell was nasty. He made some good points and was a very reasonable man. He happened to be against the level of immigration the UK has experienced and given most people's views on the problems of immigration at present he seems maybe to have only overstated the case and been wrong about the level of unrest. Powell was sometimes right and sometimes wrong like his opponents.
People should attack the issue, not the person. I am from an immigrant family (Irish) and, in common with other recent decendents of immigrants, I think the government should know who is coming in and out and have more effective control of it.
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DAK
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Mr Giblets wrote: <quoted text>a lot of us have suffered from nasty immigrants since then. Most of population of UK are immigrants. Some came earlier. We should acknowledge that there were always blacks in UK for the past 500 years. Enoch as health minister in late 50s advertised in West Indies for more immigrants to come to UK. He was against Common Market. Why? He was against devolution. Why? But then he was stood in N Ireland for the unionist. Got the drift??? He gave respect to prejudice. Mostly lower middle classes fell for it. Media (including estab. newspapers) used him to goad Labour Government of the time in hasty action. He was a a great orator and a scholar of Greek. But was he a good politician? I believe that this man of Welsh extraction was a petty English nationalist but not racialist. He himself said that he did not know what racism was. However, he did pander to racism of others. Both the ignorant plebs and those nasties who had an agenda. Just imagine that UK Government at the time was assistng white emigration to Australia , thus exacerbating shortage of labour. As night follows day recession often follow. Then vacancies were filled by those who were in main to suffer from both the recession and from the racists. Many of the racists got their cues from good ols Enoch. Until mid fifties Enoch was lamenting the loss of empire.
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DAK
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Good politicians should be responsible in their deliberations. They should not create situations which they themselves can exploit later.
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DAK
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Race card is the cheapest weapon a politician can used. Race does not mean "colour of skin" only as we use it in the UK.
Political leaders in other countries have used it many times, with heavy price to be paid by many over many years. Responsibilty when in power is far more than just dealing with financial crisis and providing framework for employment and public services.
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DAK wrote: <quoted text>
Most of population of UK are immigrants. Some came earlier. We should acknowledge that there were always blacks in UK for the past 500 years. I hear the same ignorant leftist crap on a daily basis. Britain is NOT a nation of immigrants. Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans (our ancestors) were NOT immigrants. They were invaders ie, soldiers, mercenaries, and ect who conqured Britain by FORCE, and they done so because their cultures were far superior to that of the few tribes that already existed on the island. Besides, the one thing they all had in common. They were all western EUROPEAN. This is what made it easier for intergration. Going by your wacky theory on what immigration is, there is no such thing as an Iraqi, Iranian Frenchman, Chinese, Russian...ect..ect because we're all decended from somewhere. However, you can't seem to understand the fact that humankind has evolved to create diffrence. That's why we have Negroes, Asians, Caucasians ect....ect. To say we're all EXACTLY the same is being very ignorant to say the least.
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Right-Wing Revolutionist wrote: <quoted text>I hear the same ignorant leftist crap on a daily basis. Britain is NOT a nation of immigrants. Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans (our ancestors) were NOT immigrants. They were invaders ie, soldiers, mercenaries, and ect who conqured Britain by FORCE, and they done so because their cultures were far superior to that of the few tribes that already existed on the island. Besides, the one thing they all had in common. They were all western EUROPEAN. This is what made it easier for intergration.
Going by your wacky theory on what immigration is, there is no such thing as an Iraqi, Iranian Frenchman, Chinese, Russian...ect..ect because we're all decended from somewhere. However, you can't seem to understand the fact that humankind has evolved to create diffrence. That's why we have Negroes, Asians, Caucasians ect....ect. To say we're all EXACTLY the same is being very ignorant to say the least. Ha ha. have your DNA analysed and you will be surprised. You may have DNA from a black African. That racist guy who led S African nazi party was found to have far too much black DNA. He had been classified by Apartheid regime as white. All diversity in genes is beneficial unless you carry recessive genes susceptible to specific diseases, etc.
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DAK
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Right-Wing Revolutionist wrote: <quoted text>I hear the same ignorant leftist crap on a daily basis. Britain is NOT a nation of immigrants. Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans (our ancestors) were NOT immigrants. They were invaders ie, soldiers, mercenaries, and ect who conqured Britain by FORCE, and they done so because their cultures were far superior to that of the few tribes that already existed on the island. Besides, the one thing they all had in common. They were all western EUROPEAN. This is what made it easier for intergration.
Going by your wacky theory on what immigration is, there is no such thing as an Iraqi, Iranian Frenchman, Chinese, Russian...ect..ect because we're all decended from somewhere. However, you can't seem to understand the fact that humankind has evolved to create diffrence. That's why we have Negroes, Asians, Caucasians ect....ect. To say we're all EXACTLY the same is being very ignorant to say the least. Settlers, colonialists, traders, soldiers, etc are all imigrants if they go to other lands and stay there for a living. Wise up, mate. Are your origins in the East End?
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new DAK
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Best thing is to assess for yourself if somethings said in the posts is true or not instead of rejecting all as "left or right crap".
Think! Forget sentiments. Life is often harsh.
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DAK
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No comments???
Let me then add that Enoch Powell was used by many to think that despite their prejudices based on "colour" of skin were okay. They were led to believe that they were still "respectable" citizens of the UK. We all paid for this atitude
materially and otherwise, directly or indirectly.
Waht I though at the time was the example that we were setting as the leading educated and developed country to the less developed world!
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ketriclog
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Krypteia wrote: <quoted text>Nasty politician?for telling the truth, unlike this labour scum And what truth is that ?
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DAK
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ketriclog wrote: <quoted text>
And what truth is that ? ="ketriclogfails to repspond! So let me update ="ketriclog" : The truth is that no country is an island, especially the ones which benefit and benefited from overseas colonialism, settlement and trade. The truth is that exploitation is many fold. Some have generated exploitation of situations created by themselves in a manner whcih is despicable and harmful to all ordinary people of this country. See how word immigrant, migrants are used. Some are called "immigrants" even if they are rooted here for a couple of generations.
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DAK
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Kiwi wrote: What's this got to do with Japan? Exactly?! Nothing.
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Enoch Powell doesn't have to be rehabilitated. He was never wronged in the first place. Not by independent, decent, objective, good folks. Because they knew that what he said was 100% right.
All that has changed is that today even those stupid enough to fall for the loony leftie propaganda machine, which demonised Powell so they could do the sort of social engineering which has introduced rampant violence, killings and rapes as a way of life into Britain, are beginning to see how right Powell was.
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hurricane wrote: Enoch Powell doesn't have to be rehabilitated. He was never wronged in the first place. Not by independent, decent, objective, good folks. Because they knew that what he said was 100% right.
All that has changed is that today even those stupid enough to fall for the loony leftie propaganda machine, which demonised Powell so they could do the sort of social engineering which has introduced rampant violence, killings and rapes as a way of life into Britain, are beginning to see how right Powell was. What social engineering? Apartheid was introduced in South Africa. Before rejecting all that you do not like as "leftwing" propaganda, think! Read. Currently in UK people of lighter hue do not want East Europeans. Then politicians talk about controls on immigrants from other countries. They fail to explain to them that as part of EU polish, etc can come en masse if they so wished. Immigration from Asia and Africa has been controlled by government ..so much so that Bangaldeshi owners are unable to find staff. Then NHS nursing staff shortage in the last 7 years was resolved from recrutiment in Africa, etc. Again the politicians should explain that this was done as necessity. Previously both labout and tory governments were turning a blind eye to some illegal immigration since that provided cheap cleaners,etc for the hotels, etc. Again the politicians should expalin but they do not. If there was no emigration then there would not be need for immigration! Words like migrants are now used for "immigrants" . Did you read my previous posts? Enoch lamented loss of empire until 1950s. He advertised for staff from West Indies. In 60s he thought that tories will never come to power and therefore race card was the right for him to use. It backfired. He was not a racists. Shame on such a great orator and the professor of Greek. I bleive to be a good politician you have to be a good human. So , my South African settler, it was not social enginnering but sheer opportunism at times and at other times, correctly to open doors to human rights sufferers. However, I have isssues about protection of human rights of those who themselves are culprits. Enoch
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