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12:20 Italian tolerance goes up in smoke as Gypsy camp is burnt to...

There are 32 comments on the Irish Independent story from May 16, 2008, titled 12:20 Italian tolerance goes up in smoke as Gypsy camp is burnt to.... In it, Irish Independent reports that:

“I'm very sorry for what's happening, I didn't want it to come to this. But the Gypsies had to go.”

In cruel and unusual concert, Italy 's new government, its police and paramilitary carabinieri, and even its gangsters, have turned their joint might against the nation's enemy number one: the Gypsies. via Irish Independent

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rachele

Warrenville, IL

#1 May 16, 2008
well, it is the gypsies that ARE the problem! We are not pointing fingers at the Romanians......we are tired of the illegal trickery and violence of the zingere!!!!! I have been personally effected by some of their trickery and harassment. I support the government in deporting ALL gypsies that are a threat to a peaceful society!!!!
massimo

Rubí, Spain

#2 May 21, 2008
I m not agree at the violent answer for a social problem!!! this action show how mach is weak the italian socety and how many problem got in the last years, specialy now with this govern!! It's shame how the italian culture(the was very intresssing for all the world) is falt soo low!!! I m italian and I m depressed for all upen in my country,to my country.... I m still hoping that my people gona wake to open the eyes X
james lee

Redditch, UK

#3 May 26, 2008
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BEAN

Longboat Key, FL

#4 May 26, 2008
Great,street vermin they are.. Countries dump these thieves into other countries.Nothing romantic about Gypsy thieves.They are organized family crime units..In most places were they are,they hawk anything on the streets.Aggressive,with not taking no thank you for an answer,they harass all.

These people do not contribute anything to that society.Walking in Rome,they knew I was not a native,and they were all over me and who I was with.A cop chased them away.

They are violent,the knife,is their weapon. They team up on you. kids,old beyond their years,trying to hawk things they stole .The older tourists have a hard time with them.

Years ago ,a similar problem,street rats,would while you were waiting for the light,would come and throw water on your windshield,rub it off with a greasy rag,and expect to get a hand out.

The mayor then,Giuliano,threw those low lifs out of town.NYC got better then.

Bravo! Italia!...thow the scum out!!
rachele

Libertyville, IL

#5 May 27, 2008
I understand,Massimo how you feel and you have more of a right to, Italy is your home country. I understand your frustration about how the government has failed you,and had they taked more precaution measures to enforce laws to stop gypsy violence , maybe the shanty burning wouldn't have happened. But, I still feel like the question is this: what choice does the Italian gov. have? What about all the crimes comitted by this culture of people?If the Italians stay tolorant as does the government,the gypsies will use this to their advantage. Remember, the values and conformity of normal society DOES NOT apply to them. They did not learn principles as we did, they learned survival by their mothers,fathers,grandparents as did generations before them....they get a break from the Italian gov. and they will abuse it and the gypsy violence will get worse. In my opinion.
Carla

Palo Alto, CA

#6 May 28, 2008
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Carla

Palo Alto, CA

#7 May 28, 2008
BEAN wrote:
Great,street vermin they are.. Countries dump these thieves into other countries.Nothing romantic about Gypsy thieves.They are organized family crime units..In most places were they are,they hawk anything on the streets.Aggressive,with not taking no thank you for an answer,they harass all.
These people do not contribute anything to that society.Walking in Rome,they knew I was not a native,and they were all over me and who I was with.A cop chased them away.
They are violent,the knife,is their weapon. They team up on you. kids,old beyond their years,trying to hawk things they stole .The older tourists have a hard time with them.
Years ago ,a similar problem,street rats,would while you were waiting for the light,would come and throw water on your windshield,rub it off with a greasy rag,and expect to get a hand out.
The mayor then,Giuliano,threw those low lifs out of town.NYC got better then.
Bravo! Italia!...thow the scum out!!
I agree, the Gypsies have been a problem for years. I lived in Italy and as a child I was told not to go near their caravan, which was parked just out of our town. They were known then for stealing children. They are nomads who don't contribute a thing to society. Berlusconi is doing what he can to clean up Italy. I think he's got the right idea. Even though many Italians may not like him he's at least trying to turn things around. Politically IT has always been a controvercial country which makes it difficult to do anything positive. Their new government is doing more than ours here in the US to try and get rid of the problems. I certainly wish that President Bush would be more pro-active regarding immigration. It's now beyond repair. Hopefully his successor will be more assertive.
tina

Hungary

#8 May 30, 2008
In England MOST Romanians pretend to be Albanian

In England this has happen A LOT.... but they found out...

my teachers husband used to work with them and they told me most of them pretend to be Albanian....which is sad and unfair on us.....
tina

Hungary

#9 May 30, 2008
and Italians should start realising this and not start attacking everyone from every nation..... because its ignorance....

i know albanians commit crime in italy, but most romanians that commit crime and beg in the street ESPECIALLY in England pretend to be Albanian... lol if you came to England you will see what i am talking about....
Victor vishnevsky

São Paulo, Brazil

#10 Mar 24, 2009
This berlusconi is nuts as far as I am consernd, he is risking his neck, for being called a fascist, the new rules that he gave for the Gypsies being finger printed I am sure one day he will answer for it, if he would have been an honest man, then people might give him credit, but he is a criminal that works with the local mafia, why dont the police go after the real crooks who kill and corupt the government, but no, they go after the poor petty theifs the Gypsies, who are there for generations, and only now he got wise to these Gypsy activities, no, he did this for the Gypsies to be the scapegoats, to cover up his criminal activities.
texas

Del Valle, TX

#11 Apr 15, 2009
unfortantly they are in the united states also with similar tactics and police do nothing good luck
some facts and not yaks

Citta Sant'angelo, Italy

#12 Apr 23, 2009
the italians are not racist, proof: they have voted a gypsy man winner of italian big brother 9. he's perfectly integrated, works legally and speaks italian, he has even said he finds gypsy traditions illegal and ugly. on the show he has thanked the policemen for having brought him away when 10 from his gypsy father who forced him to steal from people and houses, that's what fingerprints are for, to track back gypsy children exploited and give them to normal italian families.
victor vishnevsky

São Paulo, Brazil

#13 May 1, 2009
This time I wil talk about Berlusconi, and his stupid gesters, this time he humiliated OBama that he has had a sun burn and is very dark, and in Germany, he left the German President, waiting at the door of the conference building for almost five minutes because he was on a mobile phone, while the poor women President of Germany signaled him to escourt him like she did with all the Presindents,but he just waved to her to waite, she waited for respect but then she just gave up,and went in the building alone, this is just an example, how a nation like Italy tolerate, this ignorent man, for me he should be thrown in a trash can
Lisa

Isernia, Italy

#14 May 1, 2009
victor vishnevsky wrote:
This time I wil talk about Berlusconi, and his stupid gesters, this time he humiliated OBama that he has had a sun burn and is very dark, and in Germany, he left the German President, waiting at the door of the conference building for almost five minutes because he was on a mobile phone, while the poor women President of Germany signaled him to escourt him like she did with all the Presindents,but he just waved to her to waite, she waited for respect but then she just gave up,and went in the building alone, this is just an example, how a nation like Italy tolerate, this ignorent man, for me he should be thrown in a trash can
actually I can explain why. In italy sun tan is considered a beautiful feature, which makes a person more attractive. people goes crazy to get sun baths in summer here lol. about the phone call, he was being called by turkish premier erdogan about an important issue they had to discuss about in that meeting. sure berlusconi is a man of its own but you really need to inform before offending an entire nation, moreover your post is not related to gypsies.
huh

Italy

#15 May 1, 2009
victor vishnevsky wrote:
This time I wil talk about Berlusconi, and his stupid gesters, this time he humiliated OBama that he has had a sun burn and is very dark, and in Germany, he left the German President, waiting at the door of the conference building for almost five minutes because he was on a mobile phone, while the poor women President of Germany signaled him to escourt him like she did with all the Presindents,but he just waved to her to waite, she waited for respect but then she just gave up,and went in the building alone, this is just an example, how a nation like Italy tolerate, this ignorent man, for me he should be thrown in a trash can
and you right after him, you trash bag airhead from the middle of nowhere. who do you think you are. get lost you creep!
Alfio

Lucca, Italy

#16 May 7, 2009
Victor vishnevsky wrote:
This berlusconi is nuts as far as I am consernd, he is risking his neck, for being called a fascist, the new rules that he gave for the Gypsies being finger printed I am sure one day he will answer for it, if he would have been an honest man, then people might give him credit, but he is a criminal that works with the local mafia, why dont the police go after the real crooks who kill and corupt the government, but no, they go after the poor petty theifs the Gypsies, who are there for generations, and only now he got wise to these Gypsy activities, no, he did this for the Gypsies to be the scapegoats, to cover up his criminal activities.
Wtf are you talking about?LOL
The fact that Berlusconi don't like to people cause he has money doesn't mean he's in mafia...
and he doesn't take decision only by itself..he has a parliament and italians don't want gipsies too,cause we have enough of the fairy tales of good gipsies who only read tarots...they are fucking thieves and rapists who don't wanna integrate in the society...simple...
Victor Vishnevsky

São Paulo, Brazil

#17 Jul 23, 2009
the words you pronounced are a shame full you must be from the lower class of Italians that I know, I have been to Italia some decades ago and i found Italia a very nice country, and the people are very hospitable, but you are trash, because I speak only of Berlusconi not the people of Italy, you must be working for him, for getting so mad and say shameful words, I must have hurt you, but I am not sorry for you, you should be thrown in the trash can, with your Berlusconi
Victor Vishnevsky

São Paulo, Brazil

#18 Aug 5, 2009
Dear Lisa, I feeel sorry for you for trying to protect your President, for saying that in Italy they love dark men etc, but now please tell me what a president, of his age which is flerting with an 18 years old girl?, and is married to another? he is actually downgrating your country, who will take this type of man siriously, now please answer me.
Razvan

Burnaby, Canada

#19 Aug 5, 2009
tina wrote:
and Italians should start realising this and not start attacking everyone from every nation..... because its ignorance....
i know albanians commit crime in italy, but most romanians that commit crime and beg in the street ESPECIALLY in England pretend to be Albanian... lol if you came to England you will see what i am talking about....
I am romanian and I have never heard of anybody even thinking about wanting to pretend to be albanian! Maybe the gypsies from Romania do, I am not saying they are not, after all they are known to have done crazier things than that. No offence, but if you want to pretend to be something else you may as well pretend to be a nationality that actually has a good reputation...
cip

AOL

#20 Aug 6, 2009
Razvan wrote:
<quoted text>
I am romanian and I have never heard of anybody even thinking about wanting to pretend to be albanian! Maybe the gypsies from Romania do, I am not saying they are not, after all they are known to have done crazier things than that. No offence, but if you want to pretend to be something else you may as well pretend to be a nationality that actually has a good reputation...
exactly, you right, i never heard that either, albanian, have bad gang reputation.

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