Multiple arrests of Bahais in Shiraz, Iran

Feb 4, 2012 Full story: CNN 13

This morning, agents of the security services raided the homes of Bahais in Shiraz, and there were widespread arrests.

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SHIRO

New York, NY

#1 Feb 4, 2012
Bahais are a realty must be accepted for what they are ..Iran Ayaats needs to be made into Iranian first ,think Iranian first, do good for iran first.... Otherwise , they should leave Iran and be ayatollah Sistani Body Guards in Nejef
Master

Rochester, UK

#2 Feb 5, 2012
Iran regime is scared of everyone.'Oh dear they dont pray like us, we'd better hurt them' Unbelievable! Some people of low intelligence come to the west to enjoy western freedoms but hate the idea of freedom in Iran. Hypocritical springs to mind.
Master

Rochester, UK

#3 Feb 5, 2012
SHIRO wrote:
Iran Ayaats needs to be made into Iranian first ,think Iranian first, do good for iran first.... Otherwise , they should leave Iran and be ayatollah Sistani Body Guards in Nejef
similarly, to follow your argument, those that live in the west should think 'western' first do good for the west first, otherwise they should leave ... when are you leaving Shiro? Nonsense isn't it?
SHIRO

New York, NY

#4 Feb 5, 2012
Time for unbriddle fredom is gone ,Holywood pronographers kill it.
Master

Rochester, UK

#5 Feb 5, 2012
SHIRO wrote:
Time for unbriddle fredom is gone ,Holywood pronographers kill it.
Freedom never started under the current regime. You are saying its Hollywoods fault that the regime oppreses and imprisons innocents? so, its not the fault of the oppresive regime that people are shackled and can only dream of freedom. Incredible!
SHIRO

New York, NY

#6 Feb 5, 2012
There are some secrifices to be made to protect Iranian family from Western prono culture , we welcome a home grown dictatorship ,it fits us, but do not fits others, others are others ,iran Is Iran .Roman Historian strabu amazed at the facts that persian had no prostitutes among them ,While Roman empror Galigola used his Palace as a brothels to inhence his income...!!! there is a differnt: East is East ,West is Wes.
Master

Rochester, UK

#7 Feb 5, 2012
SHIRO wrote:
There are some secrifices to be made to protect Iranian family from Western prono culture , we welcome a home grown dictatorship ,it fits us, but do not fits others, others are others ,iran Is Iran .Roman Historian strabu amazed at the facts that persian had no prostitutes among them ,While Roman empror Galigola used his Palace as a brothels to inhence his income...!!! there is a differnt: East is East ,West is Wes.
Things have changed a lot since the days of Galigola - Tehran is a haven of prostitution today. Iranians I know dont welcome a home grown dictatorship at all - only those who have an unhealthy interest in oppression and violence. Why on earth would oppression and use of violence to control people 'suit' you. You are clearly a product of the regimes education system nicely brainwashed.(it 'suits'you so much that you wont live there - the usual 'support the violence of the regime from afar' brigade)
Master

Rochester, UK

#8 Feb 7, 2012
SHIRO wrote:
There are some secrifices to be made ,.
Sacrifices? Such as loss of freedom; acceptance of government organised beatings and imprisonment without trial of the good citizens; acceptance of the subjugation of women; disappearance and murder of those that think differently to the brainwashed robots of the aithorities. These are abuses not sacrifices. What sacrifices do you make Shiro, living it up in the west?
Bob

Rochester, UK

#9 Feb 12, 2012
Some people come on here, spout rubbish and when challenged (or a different point of view is stated) run away with no response. Hang your head in shame Shiro.
SHIRO

New York, NY

#10 Feb 12, 2012
Our priorities are different from English speaking folks priorities ...The family , and chestity matters for us... Nudity and sexual stimulation is harmful for the youth , violance movies degrade values of human life , and emphasize on clothing sexual appeal and looks which hall mark of American culture is a no ,no , we need management, and social control . Western life style is not suitable for us... We need social control , as for Bahaies they ought to be forgiven for been Shah`s hit men ,Leave them to their on tricks... You call it dictatorship, we call it carring ...
Bob

Rochester, UK

#11 Feb 12, 2012
SHIRO wrote:
Our priorities are different from English speaking folks priorities ...
you fall into the trap of stereotyping English speaking people. In UK English people now encompass communities from all corners of the world including Iranians. You pick up on negative stories in Uk (similar stories are suppressed in Iran - no free press there)and think all people are the same - you are wrong. And if you think that English speaking people from USA and Canada and elsewhere are the same as in UK you are again wrong. Don't forget who is always there offering help to countries at times of disaster little UK. Where is Iran many times the size of UK to offer help?
SHIRO wrote:
The family , and chestity matters for us... Nudity and sexual stimulation is harmful for the youth ...
It is widely reported that prostitution and drugs are widespread in Iran - you seem to see Iran through rose coloured spectacles. You cant see what is really happening. You talk as if Iran is utopia but it is a society riddled with problems and sadness - inequality, persecution and oppression of thought and deed. Rape has become a political weapon in Iran so dont tell us 'chastity matters'.
SHIRO wrote:
we need management, and social control ....
do you? Well why do you, Shiro, not need that and can live as a free man in the west? Are you saying that Iranians in Iran are too unintelligent and weak to turn away from negative influences so that they must be controlled?
SHIRO wrote:
Western life style is not suitable for us... We need social control ...
Are you saying that given the choice Iranians would turn their back on the current Iranian system? Why, seeing as its so fantastic? Millions have left Iran for the west including you. Why, would so many walk away from such a 'caring' regime?
SHIRO wrote:
You call it dictatorship, we call it carring ...
How do you call imprisoning innocents without trial caring? Is it caring to inflict humiliation and sexual acts on innocents? Is it caring to murder those that think in a different way to others? How is it caring to enforce so many suppressive and oppressive measures?
People like you have kept a corrupt and oppressive regime in power maybe because you like power over women; maybe you like to see those who would like freedom beaten and humiliated; just what are your reasons?
SHIRO

New York, NY

#12 Feb 12, 2012
So we disagree ,There are every thing in Iran ,but we In Iran do not condone them ,object to them .In West is the ladder to claim to fame and fortune..And that is a different...
Bob

Rochester, UK

#13 Feb 12, 2012
SHIRO wrote:
So we disagree ,There are every thing in Iran ,but we In Iran do not condone them ,object to them .In West is the ladder to claim to fame and fortune..And that is a different...
Yes we disagree. To get change and improve the situation for the people you and others especially those with influence should object vociferously to the wrongs that are being committed in Iran. I expect that the government are well happy that the people suffer in silence. they can do anything and nobody says a word. In an earlier post you talked about sacrifice - unfortunately the ultimate sacrifice may well be necessary to bring the freedom that all people should enjoy. Iran could and should be the jewel in that region - prosperous and influential. But what is it now - a pariah playing a very dangerous game.

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