If Israel attacks Iran

Aug 12, 2010 Full story: Normblog 75

A long but fascinating article by Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic examines the prospect of an Israeli air strike against Iran, to forestall the acquisition by that country of nuclear weapons, threatening the very existence of Israel itself.

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Kar

Stockholm, Sweden

#1 Aug 13, 2010
It should not be and it must not be.
Anonymous

Beijing, China

#2 Aug 13, 2010
hello
sue

Bridgeport, CT

#3 Aug 13, 2010
If Israel attacks Iran, they will suceed, its not if but when. Go Israel!!
snowflake

San Francisco, CA

#4 Aug 13, 2010
The USA must help Israel, they can not do it alone.

Since: Jun 10

Israel

#5 Aug 13, 2010
From the article at the blog-site that generated this thread:

........"""an attack by Israel on Iran will increase the scope and vehemence of anti-Semitism everywhere""".. ....

If the comments of global readers that I go through every day at Topix, Pravda and China Daily, just to name three, are a reflection of the anti-Semitism sentiments situation "out there" ..... there is not much more space for antisemitism sentiments to increase in the hearts of the common adult on Earth.

The economic crisis has left millions around the world, specially on the WEST economies, homeless, unemployed and with their savings depleted and has brought them to a lower standard of life.

Historically on these situations, the educated as much as the non-educated, need to find "someone" to blame for their missery and to focus on, their pesismism, dissapointments and anger .......

The Jews are a traditional target. Together with the Jews ....... the "gastarbeiters" of the world, the immigrants, the illegals ... and in general the "different" (ethnic minorities, gays.....)

And that is a fact !!

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snowflake

San Francisco, CA

#6 Aug 14, 2010
The point is Iran must not have nukes otherwise Israel is gone, no more. Why do you think the Jews are so serious about this. The USA must follow along and help them they can not do it alone.
Sajid

Pakistan

#7 Aug 14, 2010
My message to the world..........

lIVE & lET lIVE
Roger it

Calgary, Canada

#9 Aug 15, 2010
99.99 percent chances are that this invasion will not happen.Bush army generals had aadvised against it, Obama's generals talk mostly similar. Even Israeli army generals gave similar opinion to pin the hawks down to peace board.

Israeli military delegation ws at least able to sway China to voteon its side for the time being.But the energy related contracts are being concluded with Iran, even after vote, by three key players- China, Russia and Turkey. Even Pakistan has pipeline contract(even if it may be a show peacifs at least as long as the current very pro American government and very pro American army chief is there.More than 80 percent Pak people think not pro-American.

I believe they will play around games as the whole world cannot take that kind of war due to energy related constrictions and the looming Armageddon disaster if that folly is ever committed.

The Armageddon effects will be as such:

1. Economies of Europe will shrink to the levels of African economies as Europe depends more than 75 percent on oil from that region.

India , Japan, Korea and much of other world too depends on that oil contributing more than 75 percent of their energy basket.India will become poorest and go back to 1948 with horse and bull carts every where anIndian economy shrinking to 20 percentas a result of energy use shrinking to 25 percent. China's economy will shrink to 65 percent as it has more diversified sources of energy supplies globally and has 2.5-3 trillion dollars forex reserves.Oil is only 25 percent of Pakistan's energy basket and Paks have done incomparable in the world switch to CNG use, in which Paks stand number one in the world today.Actually half of Pak energy basket is natuaral gas produced at home.Pak energy use and supplies will suffer 25 percent if this crime war ever does happen.But India and Europe and Japan and Korea will shrink their energy use and economies by 80 percent to only 20-25 per cent levels.
SHIRO

New York, NY

#11 Aug 15, 2010
USA wants Israel to attack Iran. Because this is the most economics way to get rid of Israel.
Roger it

Calgary, Canada

#13 Aug 15, 2010
The two most significant factors that are just about shaping the world in west to the East shift of global gravity are not even least about enrichment of Uranium by Iran. These two factors that are going to put China led Asia become the new center of world economy and power within two decades or even less are centered in Chin becoming the biggest energy user and taking over America's number one position in global economy and Iran becoming the number one in combined oil and gas reserves and being ahead of Saudi Arabia right now(1200 tcf of gas and 145 billion barrels of oi is 355 bb equivalent for Iran now and 250 tcf of gas and 260 bbs of oil is 305 bb equivalent for Saudi Arabia).The way Russia is pumping out its gas and Saudi Arabia its oil, Iran will have under its ground one wquarter of the world's oil and one quarter of the world's gas by 2030 or 2035.So, energy wise, Iran is becoming by far the hydrocarbon energy center of the world.

War in or around Iran at big scale will be economic suicide for the whole world and must be avoided at all cost and pursuation.

If the west retires like all grandly grand powers did in the past to give China that spot by 2027 or earlier, all signs point that way.China is doing energy and economy related miracles vis a vis America that not even Germany in both wars or Russia as super power from 1940-1990 ever did. Nor even British Empire compared that well energy wise in last century.

China has already accomplished 60 per cent of the job and will have achieved 75 percent in 2015 and 90 percent or better by 2020.In 2015, China is surpassing America in power use and will have oil refining 15 mbpd compared to America's 18 mbpd.In 2020 or little after, China is becoming the king of energy use with Iran will be its big energy engine along with three or four other global sources.

The world will behave totally different by 2030 or around there when China's energy use(20 percent of the world compared to 17 percent by America and 35-40 percent by combined Asia) lead will give it the biggest economy in the world.China will carry the not so punishing stick that will be the biggest and more humans friendly.

The world is surely and rapidly changing very fast in favour of the east. The west after 300 years of dominating the world is going to retire very soon.

WELCOME TO THE LOOMOING CHANGE. THIS IS ONLY TIME SPECIFIC WHEN THE TIME WAS ALSO OVER FOR THEPERSIANS,ROMANS, OTTOMANS-MUGHALS-SAFAVIDS,BRIT ISH AND NOW AMERICA TOO WILL RETIRE AFTERONE AND HALF CENTURY OF GRANDLY GLAD DAYS.

BUT, WAR MUST BE AVOIDED AS THE WORLD HAS NO REMEDIATION TO RECLAIM MIDDLE EAST OIL IF THINGS BECOME AWEFULLY UGLY.

NOT JUST ISRAEL, NO MIGHTY NATION EVEN ON PLANET EARTH SHOULD PLAY AROUND WITH THE ENERGY RELATED SURVIVAL OF MANKIND.LET US ALL TALK PEACE AND LOVE OF ALL BEAUTIFUL HUMANITY THAT WE MUST LOVE TO SEE IN SMILES AND CONTINUITY.STRONG OR WEAK, RICH OR POOR AND LEARNED OR PRETTY ILLITERATE ARE ALL SOME LIVABLE AND LOVED THINGS IN HUMANITY.BUT HUMAN EXTINCTION BY ANY MAD ACT WILL BE CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.EVEN THE SUPER POWER(S) DECIDED TO BOW TO THE DICTATES OF TIME INSTEAD OF RESORTING TO USE NUKES AND MEGA WAR SINCE WW AS THERE IS NO OTHER HOPE OF SAVING HUMANITY OTHER THAN GRAND PEACE FOR ALL.
SHIRO

New York, NY

#14 Aug 15, 2010
USAFPJ wrote:
Under the Symington Amendment to the US Constitution, Israel is not entitled to one penny of US taxpayer support, because - as has been validated by both former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and former US President Carter, that Israel has nuclear weapons, but will not be a signatory to the NNPT, nor will it allow IAEA inspection of their facilities.
Under the terms of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Iran has a right to use nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. This includes power stations and medical isotopes. Enrichment to 20% is consistent with medical usage. Therefore, Iran's actions are legal under the terms of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed right alongside the United States and Israel has not!
In demanding that Iran surrender their legal rights as specified in the NNPT, the United States is in violation of that treaty. Under Article IV, the United States is obligated to assist Iran in building their power stations and medical facilities. Clearly, if the United States were in compliance with the NNPT, we would know for an absolute certainty what Iran was and was not doing with their nuclear facilities.

Excellent presentation , a work of a person informed and a truly an America patriot

Lying to America by Zionist has become an industry , and is killing the self esteem of American !.We can not take it any more..

Since: Jan 08

New York, NY

#15 Aug 15, 2010
USAFPJ wrote:
If Israhell attacks Iran, Russia and China will nuke Israhell off the face of the Earth.
Russia and China are a joke.
SHIRO

New York, NY

#16 Aug 15, 2010
Jokes with 200 million soldiers and 6000 Atom and Hyrogen bombs

Since: Jun 10

Israel

#18 Aug 15, 2010
SHIRO wrote:
Jokes with 200 million soldiers and 6000 Atom and Hyrogen bombs
China and Russia can not venture into nothing that puts them at even a minimum level of risk.

They can not take risks, because they can not trust their own populations.

Both populations the Chinese and the Russian can not be trusted by the governments.

At any given moment if the populations perceive some weakness on the leadership, they will rebel against their government, that historically has done nothing but explote and let others explote them .....

China and Russia are not a good option, Pal.

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Roger it

Calgary, Canada

#20 Aug 15, 2010
Why some fcuked up war monger heads want to bring our beautiful humanity to brinkmanship.

Let us all now understand
Love peace,walk hand in hand
Crazy war mongers will fail
Peace will winand peace we hail

Lovely humans black and white
Join yellow and brown delight
Join each religion,join with love
Love fellow human, be a dove

Don't everany human feel the fear
Love the human life, it's dear
We be great if flash the news
Love the muslims, christians, Jews

Love the Arab Palestinian life
Don't let fellow human feel fear strife
Life for all us be so good
If love, peace we understood

War you know is bigeest crime
Don't you think war any time
War mongers will bite the dust
They mst fall , will fall for must

Peace will prosper, peace will win
Peace be amongst us all within
Peace is glory , peace is grand
Peace is best , we understand
Roger it

Calgary, Canada

#21 Aug 15, 2010
Voice of Peace wrote:
<quoted text>
China and Russia can not venture into nothing that puts them at even a minimum level of risk.
They can not take risks, because they can not trust their own populations.
Both populations the Chinese and the Russian can not be trusted by the governments.
At any given moment if the populations perceive some weakness on the leadership, they will rebel against their government, that historically has done nothing but explote and let others explote them .....
China and Russia are not a good option, Pal.
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Let us all now understand
Love peace,walk hand in hand
Crazy war mongers will fail
Peace will win and peace we hail

Lovely humans black and white
Join yellow and brown delight
Join each religion,join with love
Love fellow human, be a dove

Don't ever any human feel the fear
Love the human life, it's dear
We be great if flash the news
Love the muslims, christians, Jews

Love the Arab Palestinian life
Don't let huans feel fear strife
Life for all us be so good
If love, peace we understood

War you know is bigeest crime
Don't you think war any time
War mongers will bite the dust
They mst fall , will fall for must

Peace will prosper, peace will win
Peace be amongst us all within
Peace is glory , peace is grand
Peace is best , we understand
Roger it

Calgary, Canada

#22 Aug 15, 2010
Persiana's tears in her eye
All night I will make em dry
Tell Persian, wont be war
Won't be war near or afar

People talking war call terror
Won't let them repeat war error
And the Persian men I tell
We tell war mongers, go to hell

Go to hell and there to stay
Peace will stay yes night and day
All mankind will do the toil
Won't let war mongers do the spoil

Many a tears have to fall
Will war mongers learn at all
Peace for all and war for none
Global peace has now begun

Love and peace are not to miss
Give fellow human peaceful kiss
Peace for kiss is all we need
Hell be with the war mongers greed
Roger it

Calgary, Canada

#24 Aug 15, 2010
Persiana got pair of eyes
Brighter than the summer skies
In her eyes, she does possess
Peace for all, she says is yes

Peace for Persia, peace for all
No one fight, we'll never fall
Peace for India, peace for Paks
Peace for all now is the talks

War is ugly bad a sin
Those who fight they never win
Peace is victor thing to go
Every body wins in peace,you know

Glory be to peace, my friend
Peace is grandest, sans pretend
Peace is love and peace is beauty
Loving peace be our just duty

Even the mighty will never fight
Peace now rules us as delight
All the religions, nations kiss
They kiss peace- the grandest bliss

SHIRO

New York, NY

#25 Aug 15, 2010
Voice of Peace wrote:
<quoted text>
China and Russia can not venture into nothing that puts them at even a minimum level of risk.
They can not take risks, because they can not trust their own populations.
Both populations the Chinese and the Russian can not be trusted by the governments.
At any given moment if the populations perceive some weakness on the leadership, they will rebel against their government, that historically has done nothing but explote and let others explote them .....
China and Russia are not a good option, Pal.

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All what china has to do is to give Iran ten to 15 Atom Bombs .

Since: Jun 10

Israel

#26 Aug 15, 2010
USAFPJ wrote:
China has Billions invested in infrastructure for their energy needs with Iran.
I doubt they will sit back and watch it be destroyed.
Russia built the nuclear reactor.
I doubt they will sit and watch it be destroyed.
Add to your list of doubts, at the very top of the list, please ... we are not going to sit and watch Iran develop nuclear arms while declaring publicly that their purpose is to throw us back to where it all began (if you remember from biology), namely ..... the sea.

Better write it on the door of your refrigerator, so you can see it a few times a day.

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