Iranian Military jet crashes, pilot dies

Iranian Military jet crashes, pilot dies

There are 51 comments on the Payvand News of Iran story from May 10, 2007, titled Iranian Military jet crashes, pilot dies. In it, Payvand News of Iran reports that:

Dezful, Khuzestan Prov, May 9, IRNA - An Iranian military jet fighter crashed in the southwestern Khuzestan province on Wednesday resulting in the death of the pilot. via Payvand News of Iran

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Abu Jassem

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#53 May 21, 2007
pjam2825 wrote:
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THE GAME
Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and the like tell America they need to spend billions on military R&D most of this money in channeled into their pockets it simple money laundering of taxpayer’s money.
The defense contractors fail to explain the many failures in the technology and the fact that the more complex and inherently expensive a system the more prone to weaknesses. These weaknesses are just shoved under the carpet for the enemy to exploit.
Iran in its great wisdom has developed many cheap ways of combating these fools with their expensive toys. For the cost of a few 100 thousand Iran has deplored thousands of ground based lasers units that confuse laser-glided bombs sending them into harmless targets. They also have deployed devices that transmit a false GPS signal and can also jam GPS bombs along with scrambling any enemy UAV’s signals.
So along with the Russia 1940’s radar and Iran’s strong military things are looking pretty $hit for the fools will there over priced toys.
Total projected allocation by U S .president announced right after nin eleven is 240 billion dollar for air power development.

We may say that may be it was Air plane manufacturer were the one behind 9/11 tragedy , why not they will make a fortune never sreamed off by them.
The more we have tragedies the more Air Craft industies make profits.

“First take log out of own eye ”

Since: Jan 07

Defender of Islamic Iran

#54 May 21, 2007
Abu Jassem wrote:
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Total projected allocation by U S .president announced right after nin eleven is 240 billion dollar for air power development.
We may say that may be it was Air plane manufacturer were the one behind 9/11 tragedy , why not they will make a fortune never sreamed off by them.
The more we have tragedies the more Air Craft industies make profits.
Trans-Atlantic Bridge

A faction of NATO

The Atlantic Bridge is a strategic intelligence and military alliance formed after the 1999 Yugoslavia war, by American and British military’s. The main objectives are to improve cooperation in arms production, leading the way to possible defense industry mergers.
One aim is to improve war fighting effectiveness via closer industrial linkages between U.S. and allied companies.

Cooperation between the CIA and Britain’s MI5 in the sphere of intelligence and covert operations is also a big part.

Some British and U.S. Special Forces work is coordinated through this alliance.

·Lockheed Martin
·Raytheon
·General Dynamics
·Boeing
·Northrop Grumman
·BAES Britain operates BAE Systems North America

We must take into account that BAES works with EADS from the Franco-German alliance another NATO faction.

Franco-German Faction

Major business players are:
Oil giant Total-Fina-Elf and Italy's ENI
Military company’s include:
·Daimler
·Siemens
·Krupp

France’s Aerospace-Matra merged with Daimler’s DASA
DASA, merged with Matra and Spain’s Construcciones Aeronauticas to form European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co.(EADS)

EADS as part of and the Franco-German alliance are (allegedly) competing against Trans-Atlantic Bridge for the procurement of weapons to NATO’s new Eastern European members.
EADS is a strong member in Franco-German alliance and through its partnership with Britain’s BAES a Trans-Atlantic Bridge member things start to get shady.

Can someone ring consumer affairs, as price fixing seems to be going rife?

Or are all these entities just one big corporation?
Jack Flack

Portsmouth, VA

#56 May 22, 2007
Abu Jassem wrote:
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You should learned two or three things:
1-- Learn to read
2-- learned to think while reading
3-- get some peice of Irish soup and wash your mouth
Then we may be abel to teach you some thing ,like not confuse currnecy for money I know some house wife do that.
Not confuse book keeeping , accounting as a subject worthy of Economics inclusion.
And know that the world is not taking sleeping pills waiting for U S A to direct their national priorities, that is over and gone, for ever irrespective weither U S economy is growing or shrinking.
If U S A to be restored to its previouse important position it must win Iran acquaiescence and blessing. Take it or leave it.
Salaat ber Mohamed khurol basher, ve nori chashmi anbia.
Abu,

Learn to type in Engrish, you dunce. You think I am trying to defend a principle of American superiority here. Not quite, moron. I don't care if America is #1 in anything, economy, defense, or otherwise. My preference, in reality, would be to become an isolationist state and kick you MF'g second-rate nations to the curb and, as you say, "clean up our own house."

But the US realizes that even if we did shut our borders and "fix ourselves" internally -- cutting all ties to outsider nations (a la Japan from 1850 to WWII)-- we know that we still would not be left alone in peace. The Muslim radicals have proven that. So based on our current foreign policies, we are a target...anytime, anyplace. And in this light, we were forced to go on the offensive. So now, whether you like it or not, we are a nation of pre-emption.

As for economies, we will always find the money before we will go bankrupt (just like North Korea, PJam!). We will borrow money, if needed, from our Allies in the EU, the UK, Australia, Japan...even China! But that will likely not happen as we will continue to be owners and operators of low-overhead production facilities that have been moved overseas. And if in absolute destitution, we will sell arms. But more likely would be a refocus on internal production, just like we did for WWII. We are capable, we just prefer outsourcing because it is cheaper...

But we will not collapse. Look up "globalization" geniuses. The world is small...it is linked...and the US is a major node in that network. Kill that node and other countries may not be "hurt," but they will be severely "affected." No doubt...

“First take log out of own eye ”

Since: Jan 07

Defender of Islamic Iran

#57 May 22, 2007
America has already borrowed billions from China the Chinese are buying up American compony faster then ever.

America is no superpower and there polices of violence and economic bulling will leave you in the isolationist America you desire.

The world will decide when the pain of the current America out ways the pain its death will corse and then it will be the end for you aragonite fools
Jack Flack

Portsmouth, VA

#58 May 22, 2007
pjam2825 wrote:
America has already borrowed billions from China the Chinese are buying up American compony faster then ever.
America is no superpower and there polices of violence and economic bulling will leave you in the isolationist America you desire.
The world will decide when the pain of the current America out ways the pain its death will corse and then it will be the end for you aragonite fools
That's what they said about Japan in the 1980s and 1990s. JAPAN IS BUYING UP AMERICA!!! WE'RE BEING TAKEN OVER! THEY'RE GOING TO OWN EVERYTHING! WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!

Now look at the Japanese Yen versus the US Dollar...

America will be fine. China is surging now (just like America did after WWII), but they will plateau eventually and then decline.

...all surging nations do. It's the circle of life.

BTW, the "world" you are hoping for will never come to fruition. You're living in a true dream world. For although we are moving more and more towards globalization, the world is too divided...too different...too caught up on religion...

The EU is the first true example (and failure) of your new world order. If that is the best the world can do among nations that actually share much in common, then the chance of the world ever deciding that the US has got to go will never happen.

I'm not worried. Especially of opinionated, do-nothing, ignorant, blabbermouths like you.

You're all talk. You're all speculation. Your facts are skewed. You hope, but hope for the wrong things. And your personal bias of America is just that...your personal bias.

America is, INDEED, the last world superpower. So as long as we're at the top of the food chain, it is your silly little job to knock us off. Good luck...you're doing great so far...sitting in this fun-filled forum waxing poetic all day.

“First take log out of own eye ”

Since: Jan 07

Defender of Islamic Iran

#59 May 22, 2007
The problem with Japan South Korea and others that have surged as you put it is that they borrowed large sums of money to build the infrastructure to produce the goods.
When wages go up and the debts become uncompetitive the companies move on leaving a country to struggle. China has learnt from this and has spent many years preparing before entering the game.

What is the obsession with being number one this is a classic sign of insecurity.
Abu Jassem

AOL

#60 May 22, 2007
The issue worthy of discussion is American lack of humanistic ideology.

American technology too immense to be measured in any forum including at best Univirsity seminars and for whole year.

First we do not know what IBM, MICRO SOFT ,HONEY WELL And the other million firms are up to .

Second exactly what are the degrees of Control America has over British ,France ,Germany .Italy ,Japan ,India and many more country industrieas and finanacial institutions .
Queen of England attended a cermoney celebrating British technological advances.The Place was Singer firm, The Queen was not told that this Singer firm is all an American company located for the time beeing in England .Commentator told their listener had the queenn known she would not have made the kind of statement she made.

WE are plagued with not American technology ,in fact, that is the best thing about America .What we are devastated with ,is American Emprialism and the delibrate indeference of American people to the plight of the Victims of American aggressions .
This will cause people around the world to be on gard against possible American assult on them.

What we are now in America ? We are a predatorial nations with infinite amount of power to cause carasrophics harm in any part of the world.
Is this an hnorabel way to be a nation?
Is this a civilize way to use scientific knowledge?
And what the world will do about all of this new American Neuratic cliams of aupriority?.
We expect Lots bloodshed ,not much else, if this is good for America then lets keep doen it ,we will need lots plastic bags

Abu Jassem

AOL

#62 May 22, 2007
Dariush Zolfaghari wrote:
Since this is a thread on Iranian Airforce. Just for the hamvatane aziz, I thought that the younger ones can aprreciate the quality and skills of IRIAF pilots. This is a objective tally of Iranian war aces compiled by Western Sources:
IRAN
Iran-Iraq War 1980-1990
NAME VICTORIES AIRFORCE UNITS
Dowran, Abbas TAB1 F-4E/F 16 confirmed
Zandi, Jalal F14A 9 IrIAF TFB8, 82TFS/TFB6
Hoda, A. 6 IrIAF 91TFS/TFB3
Afshar 4 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8,TFB7,82TFS/TFB6,73T FS/TFB1
Sedghi 4 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Sharifi-Raad, Yadollah 4 IrIAF TFB2
Javadpour 2 IrIAF TFB2
Ala'i (WO) 3 +1D IrIAA
A., H. 3 +1D IrIAF TFB6,81TFS/TFB8
Khosrodad, M. 3 IrIAF TFB8
Qiyassi 3 IrIAF 82TFS/TFB6
Shafi 3 +1D IrIAA
Bayani, Siavash 2 IrIAF TFB1
Esmaeli 2 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Hashemzadeh (WSO) 2 IrIAF TFB1
Jowshan 2 IrIAF TFB1
K., H. F. 2 IrIAA
K., N. 2 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Malek 2 IrIAF
Rhanavard 2 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Rostami, Shahram 2 IrIAF TFB8
T., H. 2 IrIAA
Abbasi 1 IrIAF FTFB3
Adibi 1 IrIAF TFB6
Afkhami 1 +1D IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Agha 1 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Akhbari 1 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Amiraslani 1 IrIAF 82TFS/TFB6
Ata'ie 1 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Azimi 1 +1U IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
A., A. 1 IrIAF 62TFS/TFB6
A., C. 1 IrIAA
A., M. R. 1 IrIAA
A., P. 1 IrIAF TFB7
Bozorgi, H. 1 IrIAF TFB4
Dehghan 1 IrIAF 82TFS/TFB8
Ebrahimi 1 IrIAF TFB.2
Hassibi 1 IrIAF 11TFS/TFB6
Hazin 1 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Mahloudji 1 IrIAF 31TFS/TFB4
Mofidi 1 IrIAF 31TFS/TFB4
Rassi 1 IrIAF TFB6
Salarie 1 IrIAF TFB3
Sarlack 1 IrIAF TFB3
Sehati, Esma'il 1 IrIAA
Sahra'I, S.(WO) 1 IrIAA
Solarie 1 IrIAF 31TFW/TFB4
Yassini 1 IrIAF TFB6
Zaghi 1 IrIAF 81TFS/TFB8
Zarif-Khadem, K. 1 IrIAF TFB2
Fatahi 0 +1D IrIAF TFB3
D : Damaged
U : Unconfirmed
WO : Weapons Officer
WSO : Weapon System Officer
Do you have pictures of these heros.
Can you or other write a short autbioghraphy of them.
To make a book :Shaheen namah
I will pay all expences in advance !!
Abu Jassem

AOL

#64 May 22, 2007
Dariush Zolfaghari wrote:
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Sure I will tell you more as time permits. I knew and still know some of these GREAT SON'S OF sarzameene pake Iran. I have some personal photos, however, other people have beaten me to write a book. Colonel Abbas Dowran Shahid's autobiography in Farsi by his wife is available in any bookstore in Iran. Most of the jange tamili sher-e-Iran generation like myslef is now in their 40's like our President Dr. Ahmedinejad who served with distinction in the Qods force. At one stage he spent a month behind enemy lines at Baquba sector.
You will find their photos and achievements in the following books, which you can order in US at Amazon.
Sources & Literature
Bishop, Farzad - Cooper, Tom: Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat, Osprey Combat Aircraft 37, Osprey Publishing, London 2003.
Iranian F-14 Units in Combat, Osprey Combat.
Bowman, Martin W.: F-4 Phantom, edice Bojové legendy, Nakladatelství Jan Vašut, Praha 2005.
Cooper, Tom - Bishop, Farzad: Fire in the Hills: Iraq and Iran in Conflict, in Air Enthusiast, No.104, March/April 2003, Key Publishing Ltd. Stamford, Liconshire England 2003.
Cooper, Tom - Bishop, Farzad: Iran-Iraq War in the Air 1980-1988, Shiffer Military History, Atglen, PA 2000.
Má&#269;e, Jan: Phantomy nad Zálivem, Historie letoun&#367; F-4 v Íránu, in Letectví+ kosmonautika, No.01, 2001.
Má&#269;e, Jan: Perské ko&#269;ky, in Letectví+ kosmonautika, No.08, 2002.
ACIG Team: Iranian Air-to-Air Victories since 1976, http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_21...
Magnus, Alan: Air Aces Home Page, http://users.accesscomm.ca/magnusfamily/airac...
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Thank you Dariush

I will .
Ya Abalfazl

New Zealand

#65 May 24, 2007
Amerikan people dont care about rest of the world, Iranian people dont care about Amerikans, everyone cares about his or her own life and problems, but big lobbies are after our money, petrol, gas, metals, etc. and dont let us alone.
Tamam shod raft (i.e. end of story Balamory)
Mountian shark

AOL

#66 May 24, 2007
Ya Abalfazl wrote:
Amerikan people dont care about rest of the world, Iranian people dont care about Amerikans, everyone cares about his or her own life and problems, but big lobbies are after our money, petrol, gas, metals, etc. and dont let us alone.
Tamam shod raft (i.e. end of story Balamory)
Ya Abulfazel

American do not care is the worest and most harmfull thing American are doing tothemselves.

So , here comes the Zionist ,they do care o , yes.They care about Israel , they care about not letting one single muslem rise a head in this world, they care and make sure that muslems will not have a single day of peace.

And they get America to do the Job for them, so may be America cares after all !!

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