97% of 4,000 US casualties in Iraq came after 'Mission Accomplished'

[Interested observer]

crusty wrote:

<quoted text>Keep your stick on the Ice!!!

a Red Green fan eh?
Don't forget, keep your head up
Or it really will be Barooooom!:)

[MichaelNolan]

Why is it so difficult for people to debate such an important topic? I fully understand and appreciate that there are strong opinions on this subject, but some folks seem to have a problem realizing that there are good points on both sides of the argument. The one common thread I have to believe we all share is our support for the thousands of troops who consider putting their lives on the line on a daily basis 'just another day at the office'.

[crusty]

Interested observer wrote:

<quoted text>
a Red Green fan eh?
Don't forget, keep your head up
Or it really will be Barooooom!:)

Duct tape forever.

[crusty]

MichaelNolan wrote:

Why is it so difficult for people to debate such an important topic? I fully understand and appreciate that there are strong opinions on this subject, but some folks seem to have a problem realizing that there are good points on both sides of the argument. The one common thread I have to believe we all share is our support for the thousands of troops who consider putting their lives on the line on a daily basis 'just another day at the office'.

Count me in.

[Interested observer]

crusty wrote:

<quoted text>
Duct tape forever.

bow your heads for the mans prayer...
I'm a man and I can change...if I have to ______

[Interested observer]

MichaelNolan wrote:

The one common thread I have to believe we all share is our support for the thousands of troops who consider putting their lives on the line on a daily basis 'just another day at the office'.

AMEN!

[sandi delk]

I know one soldier who didn't get to go over there and fire one shot to get taken out. I had him arrested by the Nashville police and put in jail. He could be in prison for all I care. I had my nephew Dalton Dile ask him questions about his body hair and then me and a bunch of my friends went to his house and accuse him of indecent exposure to a minor.Then I called the police and told them he threatened us with a gun.He didn't have a gun but it was fun to see him get handcuffed and taken to jail. I can do this to any man here in Nashville and get away with it. I ma not using any other name but my own. Nobody can catch me.So to all of you people and your soldierboys let me call the police and get them or you put in jail or even better yet prison.

[crusty]

Interested observer wrote:

<quoted text>
bow your heads for the mans prayer...
I'm a man and I can change...if I have to ______

I guess...lol ...

[crusty]

sandi delk wrote:

I know one soldier who didn't get to go over there and fire one shot to get taken out. I had him arrested by the Nashville police and put in jail. He could be in prison for all I care. I had my nephew Dalton Dile ask him questions about his body hair and then me and a bunch of my friends went to his house and accuse him of indecent exposure to a minor.Then I called the police and told them he threatened us with a gun.He didn't have a gun but it was fun to see him get handcuffed and taken to jail. I can do this to any man here in Nashville and get away with it. I ma not using any other name but my own. Nobody can catch me.So to all of you people and your soldierboys let me call the police and get them or you put in jail or even better yet prison.

LOL...heard all this before ya freak. Now tell it to someone that cares

[interested Observer]

sandi delk wrote:

I know one soldier who didn't get to go over there and fire one shot to get taken out. I had him arrested by the Nashville police and put in jail. He could be in prison for all I care. I had my nephew Dalton Dile ask him questions about his body hair and then me and a bunch of my friends went to his house and accuse him of indecent exposure to a minor.Then I called the police and told them he threatened us with a gun.He didn't have a gun but it was fun to see him get handcuffed and taken to jail. I can do this to any man here in Nashville and get away with it. I ma not using any other name but my own. Nobody can catch me.So to all of you people and your soldierboys let me call the police and get them or you put in jail or even better yet prison.

I'm sure you have a point...besides the one on the top of your head.
Tempted to call you a Red Neck, but wouldn't want to risk offending a lot of decent folk .... besides,you're doing such a fine job all by yourself :)

[lilacs_]

Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else"
- Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States

thank you Teddy. bye bye...

[crusty]

lilacs_ wrote:

Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else"
- Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States
thank you Teddy. bye bye...

yah those conspiracy nuts get on my nerves too...good post

[Bravo]

SOMETIMES I SIT AROUND AND GET STONED OUT OF MY GORD AND CAN BEGIN TO TREMBLE WHEN I TRY TO COMPREHEND THE UTTER PAIN AND SUFFERING AFFLICTING MY FELLOW MAN WOMAN AND CHILD. IT CAN BEGIN TO EAT YOU UP REAL BAD. MOST OF YOU DO NOT KNOW OF TH INVISIBLE CHILDREN OF AFRICA. AND I CAN ADVISE IF YOU LIVE A COMFORTABLE LIFE FREE FROM VIOLENCE STRESS AND DISCRIMINATION, PLEASE DO NOT LEARN ABOUT THEM OR THEIR PLIGHT AS IF YOU HAVE EVEN AN OUNCE OF HUMANITY IT WILL BRING YOU UNDUE STRESS AS YOU WILL CARE AND THEN AS YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THE PROBLEM YOU JUST REALIZE YOU ARE POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING, SO WHY SHOULD YOU FEEL GUILTY OVER THINGS YOU CAN NOT HELP. COMPASSION IS AKIN TO CANCER IN A WORLD LIKE TODAY. ALL IT DOES IS HINDER YOU IN THE PURSUIT OF WHAT CAN REALLY GET YOU AHEAD IN LIFE, BUT I DIGRESS, AS I AM JUST ANOTHER STONED DRUG ABUSER RANTING AWAY. I AM VERY FORTUNATE IN I HAVE A ROOF OVER MY HEAD FOOD ON ME PLATE HEALTHY BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN AN INTELLIGENT EQUALLY BUT YET REALISTIC WIFE AND A MOST DIVERSE AND MOST LOVING FAMILY WHOSE LOVE IS ALWAYS UNCONDITIONAL AS ALL LOVE SHOULD BE BUT ESPECIALLY WITH FAMILY.

I AM GOING TO GO CRY NOW ABOUT HOW I LIVE A COMFORTABLE LIFE, AND FOR WHAT, ROLL OF A DICE?

HELL I WAS BORN TO A CRACK ADDICTED PROSTITUTE WHO ONLY GAVE ME UP FOR ADOPTION ONCE I GOT SO SICK SHE TOOK ME TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY SAID HEY YOU GOT JAIL FOR CHILD ABUSE OR GIVE HIM UP. I GOT LUCKY GOT BETTER AND GOT ADOPTED BY MY PARENTS WHO INSTILLED VALUES IN ME THAT TO THIS DAY FORM WHO I AM.

DAM CRUSTY THAT FELT GOOD

GOT THAT ONE OFF ME CHEST

[crusty]

Bravo wrote:

SOMETIMES I SIT AROUND AND GET STONED OUT OF MY GORD AND CAN BEGIN TO TREMBLE WHEN I TRY TO COMPREHEND THE UTTER PAIN AND SUFFERING AFFLICTING MY FELLOW MAN WOMAN AND CHILD. IT CAN BEGIN TO EAT YOU UP REAL BAD. MOST OF YOU DO NOT KNOW OF TH INVISIBLE CHILDREN OF AFRICA. AND I CAN ADVISE IF YOU LIVE A COMFORTABLE LIFE FREE FROM VIOLENCE STRESS AND DISCRIMINATION, PLEASE DO NOT LEARN ABOUT THEM OR THEIR PLIGHT AS IF YOU HAVE EVEN AN OUNCE OF HUMANITY IT WILL BRING YOU UNDUE STRESS AS YOU WILL CARE AND THEN AS YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THE PROBLEM YOU JUST REALIZE YOU ARE POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING, SO WHY SHOULD YOU FEEL GUILTY OVER THINGS YOU CAN NOT HELP. COMPASSION IS AKIN TO CANCER IN A WORLD LIKE TODAY. ALL IT DOES IS HINDER YOU IN THE PURSUIT OF WHAT CAN REALLY GET YOU AHEAD IN LIFE, BUT I DIGRESS, AS I AM JUST ANOTHER STONED DRUG ABUSER RANTING AWAY. I AM VERY FORTUNATE IN I HAVE A ROOF OVER MY HEAD FOOD ON ME PLATE HEALTHY BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN AN INTELLIGENT EQUALLY BUT YET REALISTIC WIFE AND A MOST DIVERSE AND MOST LOVING FAMILY WHOSE LOVE IS ALWAYS UNCONDITIONAL AS ALL LOVE SHOULD BE BUT ESPECIALLY WITH FAMILY.
I AM GOING TO GO CRY NOW ABOUT HOW I LIVE A COMFORTABLE LIFE, AND FOR WHAT, ROLL OF A DICE?
HELL I WAS BORN TO A CRACK ADDICTED PROSTITUTE WHO ONLY GAVE ME UP FOR ADOPTION ONCE I GOT SO SICK SHE TOOK ME TO THE HOSPITAL AND THEY SAID HEY YOU GOT JAIL FOR CHILD ABUSE OR GIVE HIM UP. I GOT LUCKY GOT BETTER AND GOT ADOPTED BY MY PARENTS WHO INSTILLED VALUES IN ME THAT TO THIS DAY FORM WHO I AM.
DAM CRUSTY THAT FELT GOOD
GOT THAT ONE OFF ME CHEST

Yes I'm sure it did ....now remember no burn holes.

I wish Jethro was here to make me feel guilty even tho he was/is as guilty as you and me.

[Guess who]

How many Iraqi's are in the US?

[Guess who]

We have had this huge World move into the US....and it's feeling really cramped....

[lilacs_]

IN celebration of Passover I felt it was appropriate to post a letter written by a grieving father written a few years ago.

Shaken father writes to president bush
Published in the Home News Tribune
2/05/04

Dear President Bush,

With heavy heart, tears in my eyes and a home full of sorrow, I pick up my pen to write you about a brave soldier, 2nd Lt. Seth J. Dvorin, U.S. Army. My son was killed in Iraq on Feb. 3, 2004 fighting in a war.
Seth was a good boy, well-mannered, smart, kind and understanding.
He joined the Army in an effort to serve his country. And serve his country he did. Seth made the ultimate sacrifice.
Burying a child will no doubt be the hardest task that his mother and I shall ever have to do. The one question I have, and the one question I would like you to answer, is, "Why did my son and every other soldier that was killed, maimed and wounded have to suffer settling your vendetta?"
My son is gone just when he was laying a strong foundation to build upon for the rest of his life.
Now, President Bush, his life has been snuffed out in a meaningless war.
Where are all the weapons of mass destruction, where are the stock piles of chemical and biological weapons?
Please Mr President, pray for all our fallen heroes and as a tribute to these heroes get our boys and girls out of Iraq now, before too much more blood is shed.
Since you waged this unnecessary war on Saddam Hussein the world has become a horrible place to live in.
I know my boy is safe now, in a new world free of hate and prejudices where GOD is his president, but you tell me President Bush why he had to go so soon and in such a violent way.

Respectfully yours, Richard M. Dvorin

thank you
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