'The War Is Not Over'

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WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.
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Sheesh

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Sep 12, 2006
 
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This was forwarded to me from a friend. I began to research the Muslim false religion right after 9/11. Dr. Robert Morey is a professor of Middle Eastern studies. He put this same stuff out. Muslims die for their false god (alah) in return for 72 virgins. Dr. Morey was allowed into US Arcives in Washington D.C., where one of the oldest Qurans in the world is kept. Reading the book about 400 years old, he found a verse where muslims die for alah and go to muslim heaven for 72 (RASINS) not virgins. Muslims changed the Quran. Problem is, muslims don't know this and they are dieing for a lie. Rasins, not virgins. One main thing to remember about muslims and their loyalty to alah (their false god that Mohammad literally made up). Mohammad was a functional illiterate, could not read or write, but made up the quran from a combinations of different religions, haveing someone write down what he said. Since he could not read, he never new what they were writing. The Quran tells all muslims, that at any time if you side with Jews, Christians or the infidels, you will go to HELL. That is why, even though muslins may want to help out, if they do, the go to HELL. They don't have a choice and therefore, if they are true brain washed believers in the muslim religion, they will go to Hell. The 9th Sura (Chapter) of the Quran meaning (Warrior) tells them to gain our trust, live among us, be good citizens and then kill the infidels. That is what the hijackers did prior to 9/11, lived among Americans, and then killed them. Read onů
THIS ARGUMENT APPEARS TO BE WELL THOUGHT OUT AND LOGICAL. THAT IS THE SCARY PART!!
FOOD FOR THOUGHT???
I received this message from a friend...... Can a good Muslim be a good American?
I sent that question to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.
Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)
Scriptural - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).
Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).
Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and _expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist.
Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.
Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Americans.
Call it what you wish.... it's still the truth.
If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above statements, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future.
Pass it on Fellow Americans. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.

Good post, Having been in Saudi 3 years I know that it how they all feel. Can the American ones feel the same deap down?
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Sep 12, 2006
 
I borrowed that from another blog, thought you might find it interesting. It isn't the one I was looking for, but I will keep looking it for it. It pertains to the ideology that Veritas is talking about.
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Sep 12, 2006
 
My computer is messed up!!:)
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Sep 12, 2006
 
Kearney wrote:
Bush's War will not be over until Bush is out of office. Whosoever follows Bish whether Republican or Democrat can make the appropriate changes to correct Bush mistakes by blaming Bush. He most certainly will be blamed as it will be politically expedient to do so in order to regain World Respect for the USA. Of course, Dems would blame harder since the mirror reflection upon them is not strong in reality.
One thing the new administration should do is drop the "war on terror" terminology. That just incites a erroneous methodology for military solution. What is required in international cooperation and diplomacy. I ho0pe an internationl anti terrorist police force of some kind will be formed.
Thank god, only two more years of this moron.
It is ashame that we have to worry about what the world thinks about us. I dont think they were attacked like we were at the World Trade Center. If the truth be known, we have saved over half the world during the first and second world wars. We have given relief to friend and foe during national disasters. We have given grain to North Korea to stop famine, We rescued Bosnia, Kosovo, Hercegovina, etc. Until we kill ALL the terrorists , The rest of the world can go to hell and you can go kiss their butts because you think they are so damn important.
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Sep 12, 2006
 
The problem is that Bush and his evil administration are prolonging the "war" and creating "wars" where there wasnt any before. Al Qaeda was essentually dead after taking Afghanistan, But Bushy, Chenney and Rummy gave them a resurrection. Then Rummys torture policies basically established nearly total loss of Iraq by pissing off all the locals who in return aligned with the insergents. The American administation has bocome the terrorists and until Bush, Chenny and Rummy step down, these situations wont get much better.

Watch these:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tortu...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/insur...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darks...
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The problem is that Bush and his evil administration are prolonging the "war" and creating "wars" where there wasnt any before. Al Qaeda was essentually dead after taking Afghanistan, But Bushy, Chenney and Rummy gave them a resurrection. Then Rummys torture policies basically established nearly total loss of Iraq by pissing off all the locals who in return aligned with the insergents. The American administation has bocome the terrorists and until Bush, Chenny and Rummy step down, these situations wont get much better.
Watch these:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tortu...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/insur...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darks...
You better stay out of the sun because your brain is fried.
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Sep 12, 2006
 
Tamara MN wrote:
<quoted text>You better stay out of the sun because your brain is fried.
The truth hurt doesnt it?
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<quoted text>You better stay out of the sun because your brain is fried.
What's worse? A fried brain or a mindless sheep.
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Sep 12, 2006
 
The war can be over if the united states makes sincere apologys and reperations to the familys of the one million children killed by sanctions, stops giving 2.5 billion dollars to Isreal for military aid to kill the Palestines, stops making war to make the very elite rich people in this country even richer.

http://www.zerotolerenceforwar.org/Links.html
Please bookmark, page would not load for the first time in six months.

Pray for peace on earth.
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goldstinker wrote:
I would like to see one of who preach give peace a chance to go find bin laden and let him know that you don't agree with Bush and that you just want to live in peace. Oh by the way let him know that you also want to continue living your western civilization ways but you just don't want to be at war with him. Let's see how long it takes him to remove your head because if you don't beleive in what he believes in then you are an enemy and must die...
God bless our troops...
The best saying I have heard which I wish more would realize is FREEDOM ISN'T FREE.
We are not preaching peace in the face of a war against terrorism, we are preaching a succesful strategy against terrorism.

We are also preaching against the politics of fear. When Britain was getting the hell bombed out of it and thousands were dying Chuchill preached that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. This administration promotes fear when it should be preaching courage.

You sir are a classic example of a fearmonger. As far as I am concerned Osama Bin Laden can do the world and my wife a favor and wipe me off the face of the earth before I trade my freedom for the security of hiding behind this administration.
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snowman allentown PA wrote:
<quoted text>It is ashame that we have to worry about what the world thinks about us. I dont think they were attacked like we were at the World Trade Center. If the truth be known, we have saved over half the world during the first and second world wars. We have given relief to friend and foe during national disasters. We have given grain to North Korea to stop famine, We rescued Bosnia, Kosovo, Hercegovina, etc. Until we kill ALL the terrorists , The rest of the world can go to hell and you can go kiss their butts because you think they are so damn important.
We saved each other in both World Wars. We could not have beaten Germany and Japan by ourselves, without an allied effort Germany would have won and where would we have been then trapped between the third reich and japan? The same type of united effort will be needed to win the war on terror. A stateless war will need cooperation between allies and it will not be won by overthrowing and invading countries.

It is difficult to kill all of the terrorists if you create new ones faster than you can kill them and it also doesn't help if they see that you believe that saving your ass is more important to you than your beliefs.
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Sep 12, 2006
 
Veritas wrote:
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Git off of yer sisters cumpewter an git back ta polishing yer pa's scatter gun...
No, seriously, wishing death and misery on your fellow countryman just for having a different view than yours? You are the common example of why we stand a good chance of losing this conflict. This is a different kind of conflict than what you are used to, it is one than requires more brains than mindless club swinging. Instead of tons of mindless carpet bombing, the preferred round is a silenced 9mm from a mp5sd. Instead of a bunch of dumb "cuntryboys" tearing around in tanks, you need small teams of motivated, skilled, intelligent operatives who can think on their feet and handle up with the finesse of a surgeon, or blow the whole place to hell with precisley laid charges, all without being seen, heard, or publicly praised for a job well done, or even the ultimate sacrafice. So stuff your redneck nationalisim up your tail-pipe and leave this fight to the professional patriots.
My impressions are that much of the "fighting" in
Iraq has been of the sort you are supporting. It
is in part, I believe, why it has been difficult to
build ongoing public support for the war.

This is a conflict against Insurgents without uni-forms. There has been an absence of battles to
attain particular cities, towns, or strategic loca-
tions as in most wars. There are no fronts as we
understood them in World War II. Complicating matters
is the fact that the populace seems divided into
two groups equally capable of mindless bloodshed ...
Shiites and Sunnis alike are at times little more
than quasi-religious versions of the Crips and Bloods.

From those who have returned from duty in Iraq I have
heard a much more positive report of what we are doing
there than what I read in the press or see on the
network news. The Kurds are pretty much at peace and
intent on building their own country and economy with-
in or without the rest of Iraq. Most cities and towns
are building and emerging from decades of neglect.

Unfortunately ... and I am basing this on what I have
heard from vets ... the media is focused on and mired
in Baghdad. The Insurgents know this and focus their
attnetion on violence that can be filmed ... just for
you.

I may sound like a Bush supporter, but those on other
threads know I have been highly critical of Bush's
"nation-building" ideology. Iraq should have been
split into 3 separate entities ... Kurds, Shiites,
and Sunnis ... with shared oil revenues.
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goldstinker wrote:
I would like to see one of who preach give peace a chance to go find bin laden and let him know that you don't agree with Bush and that you just want to live in peace. Oh by the way let him know that you also want to continue living your western civilization ways but you just don't want to be at war with him. Let's see how long it takes him to remove your head because if you don't beleive in what he believes in then you are an enemy and must die...
God bless our troops...
The best saying I have heard which I wish more would realize is FREEDOM ISN'T FREE.
Ya, go find him, do Bushys job that he promised but instead allowd Osama escape and then avoided it alltogether. But instead he started a totally unrelated war that invented more terrorists. Oh wait, Bushy and CO. tortured incocent civillians along with suspected terroists right? There is your terrorist right there genious. Bushy and Osama are two sides of the same coin. Bush makes Osama look like an angel to the islamic community. BUsh os problem No1 now, and Osama and terrorists is problem No2. There is no way you will solve problem No2. without fixing problem No1.
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YO Mamma wrote:
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Ya, go find him, do Bushys job that he promised but instead allowd Osama escape and then avoided it alltogether. But instead he started a totally unrelated war that invented more terrorists. Oh wait, Bushy and CO. tortured incocent civillians along with suspected terroists right? There is your terrorist right there genious. Bushy and Osama are two sides of the same coin. Bush makes Osama look like an angel to the islamic community. BUsh os problem No1 now, and Osama and terrorists is problem No2. There is no way you will solve problem No2. without fixing problem No1.
LMFAO @ tortured incocent civillians along with suspected terroists - ya - we made them listen to loud music - and watch the southpark movie - not the torture your thinking about.
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YO Mamma wrote:
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Ya, go find him, do Bushys job that he promised but instead allowd Osama escape and then avoided it alltogether. But instead he started a totally unrelated war that invented more terrorists. Oh wait, Bushy and CO. tortured incocent civillians along with suspected terroists right? There is your terrorist right there genious. Bushy and Osama are two sides of the same coin. Bush makes Osama look like an angel to the islamic community. BUsh os problem No1 now, and Osama and terrorists is problem No2. There is no way you will solve problem No2. without fixing problem No1.
We have elections and term limitations. One can
safely predict that in a matter of months after a
new president (of either party) takes office, he
or she will be blamed for whatever ills that exist
in the Middle East.

When does Osama's term end?
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LMFAO @ tortured incocent civillians along with suspected terroists - ya - we made them listen to loud music - and watch the southpark movie - not the torture your thinking about.
I suggest you acctually do some READING, because you oviously dont have any idea what happened to those people. You are completely naive if you think thats all that occured. stop diluting yourself.
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Bill R wrote:
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We have elections and term limitations. One can
safely predict that in a matter of months after a
new president (of either party) takes office, he
or she will be blamed for whatever ills that exist
in the Middle East.
When does Osama's term end?
I pretty much did end, but thank to your idol Bushy he went on for more terms.
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YO Mamma wrote:
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I suggest you acctually do some READING, because you oviously dont have any idea what happened to those people. You are completely naive if you think thats all that occured. stop diluting yourself.
And you have an idea? What is YOUR idea of what happned to THOES people under the US control - What happned to THOES people under Terrorest control?
Your idea ot torture is misguided. We don not stone women - we do not cut off ears - hands - and OTHER extremadies - you have no clue. I suggest your diluting yourself or just pouring gas on the fire for your own agenda.
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YO Mamma wrote:
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I pretty much did end, but thank to your idol Bushy he went on for more terms.
Not an idol by any means. Just realistic.
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YO Mamma wrote:
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I suggest you acctually do some READING, because you oviously dont have any idea what happened to those people. You are completely naive if you think thats all that occured. stop diluting yourself.
Yo....while you are READING go to the dictionary
and look up your key word in your post ... "diluting"
as in "diluting yourself." I think I know what you
meant but will trust you will do some READING and
make your correction. Looking forward to it.

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