'The War Is Not Over'

'The War Is Not Over'

There are 276640 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Sep 12, 2006, titled 'The War Is Not Over'. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept.

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ABs

United States

#287518 Apr 28, 2013
Henry wrote:
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How you know communism is garbage??
Hank, why is china intergrating and replacing their communist system with venture capitalism? Why is India's poverty rate down from 51 to 35% due to capitalism? Were you booted out of the the East German Kremlin when communism failed or what? What is your rationale for wanting to see a failed system work?
ABs

United States

#287519 Apr 28, 2013
Henry wrote:
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You know nothing about communism except lies!
Please provide an example of where communism has worked and bettered society...if you can.
ABs

United States

#287520 Apr 28, 2013
News you hear on Al Jazeera...
A deadly confrontation in China's ethnically divided Xinjiang region has left 21 people dead, in what government officials are calling a "terrorist attack," Reuters reports. The Xinjiang government says the violence was sparked after community workers found a number of knives in the house of local Uighurs; it says 14 of them "rioted" with knives and axes, killing 15 police officers and social workers. "The community people were just conducting regular checks, but the action from the rioters was planned and well prepared," says the official.

Six of the "gang members" were shot dead, al-Jazeera reports. The area has a history of civil unrest between the local minority Muslim Uighur community and the ruling Han Chinese.

What is it about muslims and violence all around the world, comrade MUQ?
ABs

United States

#287521 Apr 28, 2013
Henry wrote:
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All religions are fakes!
To some atheism is a religion and is listed as a form of religion in many publications of various religions...so if what you say is correct what is one to believe?
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#287522 Apr 28, 2013
Henry wrote:
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You know nothing about communism except lies!
The countries with capitalism are much better off than Communist/Socialist societies.

Now in America we have crony capitalism which hurts average workers.

The pendulum is swinging in the wrong direction again.

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Back to the 1880s
This is not the first time that America has looked as if it was about to succumb to what might be termed the British temptation. America witnessed a similar widening of the income gap in the Gilded Age. It also witnessed the formation of a British-style ruling class. The robber barons of the late 19th century sent their children to private boarding schools and made sure that they married the daughters of the old elite, preferably from across the Atlantic. Politics fell into the hands of the members of a limited circle—so much so that the Senate was known as the millionaires' club.
Yet the late 19th and early 20th centuries saw a concerted attempt to prevent America from degenerating into a class-based society. Progressive politicians improved state education. Philanthropists—many of them the robber barons reborn in new guise—tried to provide ladders to help the lads-o'-parts (Andrew Carnegie poured millions into free libraries). Such reforms were motivated partly out of a desire to do good works and partly out of a real fear of the implications of class-based society. Teddy Roosevelt advocated an inheritance tax because he thought that huge inherited fortunes would ruin the character of the republic. James Conant, the president of Harvard in 1933-53, advocated radical educational reform—particularly the transformation of his own university into a meritocracy—in order to prevent America from producing an aristocracy.

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The baby boomer generation is headed for a shock as it hits retirement: many of them will be long on life expectancy but short on savings. The two main strategies for funding retirement -- lifetime pensions and 401(k)-style savings plans -- are in serious trouble. In "Can You Afford to Retire?" FRONTLINE correspondent Hedrick Smith ("Is Wal-Mart Good for America?") investigates this looming financial crisis and the outlook for middle-class Americans.(more)»
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Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#287523 Apr 28, 2013
US firms hoarding $2 trillion / August 7, 2011 / http://tinyurl.com/42wvhgh
Huge balances
US companies are holding $2T in cash on their balance sheets.
Here are the top 20 ranked cash positions for S&P 500 firms.
Top 20 Firms with cash
1. Citigroup $526B
2. JPMorgan Chase $414B
3. Wells Fargo $112B
4. General Electric $82B
5. Microsoft $53B
6. Google $39B
7. Oracle $29B
8. Apple $28B
9. Johnson & Johnson $27B
10. Pfizer $24B
11. Chevron $18B
12. Coca-Cola $14B
13. Intel $12B
14. IBM $12B
15. Exxon Mobil $10B
16. Walmart $9B
17. Schlumberger $5B
18. AT&T $4B
19. Procter & Gamble $3B
20. Philip Morris $2B
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/hoardin...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287525 Apr 28, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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Absolutely correct MUQ.
The cover up is shameful and disgraceful by the higher ups.
Those pedophile priest should have been defrocked and reported to the authorities, forthwith.
No religion is perfect that is for sure.
But 99% of priests are good and the 1% bad, should have been dealt with in the proper way.
What you said about priests is also true for Muslims too. Less than 0.1 % create all the problems you hear and 99.9 % are peaceful law abiding Muslims.

But did you see the hype in Media and Islam bashing all over the world?

Why not we use the same law for them?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287526 Apr 28, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

What the U.S. Bombing of Cambodia Tells Us About Obama's Drone Campaign

By Henry Grabar

February 15, 2013 "Information Clearing House" - Halfway through the Justice Department white paper [PDF] defending the lawfulness of government-ordered assassinations of U.S. citizens, there is a curious reference to a dark chapter of American history.

The memo, making the legal case for covertly expanding military operations across international borders, directs readers to an address by State Department legal adviser John R. Stevenson, "United States Military Action in Cambodia: Questions of International Law," delivered to the New York Bar Association in 1970.
The comparison is fitting in ways the Justice Department surely did not intend.

Like the current conflict, the military action in neutral Cambodia was so secretive that information about the first four years of bombing, from 1965 to 1969, was not made public until 2000. And like the current conflict, the operation in Cambodia stood on questionable legal ground. The revelation of its existence, beginning in 1969, was entangled with enough illegal activity in this country -- wiretaps, perjury, falsification of records and a general determination to deceive -- to throw significant doubt on its use as a precedent in court.

The most important parallel, though, isn't legal or moral: it's strategic. As critics wonder what kind of backlash might ensue from drone attacks that kill civilians and terrorize communities, Cambodia provides a telling historical precedent.

Between 1965 and 1973, the U.S. dropped 2.7 million tons of explosives -- more than the Allies dropped in the entirety of World War II -- on Cambodia, whose population was then smaller than New York City's. Estimates of the number of people killed begin in the low hundreds of thousands and range up from there, but the truth is that no one has any idea.

The bombing had two primary effects on survivors. First, hundreds of thousands of villagers fled towards the safety of the capital Phnom Penh, de-stabilizing Cambodia's urban-rural balance. By the end of the war, the country's delicate food supply system was upended, and the capital was so overcrowded that residents were eating bark off of trees.

Secondly, the attacks radicalized a population that had previously been neutral in the country's politics. The severity of the advanced air campaign -- "I want everything that can fly to go in there and crack the hell out of them," then-U.S. President Richard Nixon told National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger -- fomented immense anger in the Cambodian countryside. Charles Meyer, an aide to the deposed Prince Sihanouk, said that it was "difficult to imagine the intensity of [the peasants'] hatred towards those who are destroying their villages and property." Journalist Richard Dudman was more precise. "The bombing and the shooting," he wrote after a period in captivity in the Cambodian jungle, "was radicalizing the people of rural Cambodia and was turning the country into a massive, dedicated, and effective rural base."

Nevertheless, many historians continued to deny the causal link between the violence and the political upheavals in the country. Cambodia's embrace of radicalism instead fit neatly into the Cold War-era "domino theory" paradigm, de-emphasizing the role of local conditions in driving the country's history.

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287527 Apr 28, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
US firms hoarding $2 trillion / August 7, 2011 / http://tinyurl.com/42wvhgh
Huge balances
US companies are holding $2T in cash on their balance sheets.
Here are the top 20 ranked cash positions for S&P 500 firms.
Top 20 Firms with cash
1. Citigroup $526B
2. JPMorgan Chase $414B
3. Wells Fargo $112B
4. General Electric $82B
5. Microsoft $53B
6. Google $39B
7. Oracle $29B
8. Apple $28B
9. Johnson & Johnson $27B
10. Pfizer $24B
11. Chevron $18B
12. Coca-Cola $14B
13. Intel $12B
14. IBM $12B
15. Exxon Mobil $10B
16. Walmart $9B
17. Schlumberger $5B
18. AT&T $4B
19. Procter & Gamble $3B
20. Philip Morris $2B
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/hoardin...
Yet according to their Financial reports, they owe much to the banks and they have to go to banks for financing new projects.

So where is the cash they have?

Is it real or imaginary?
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#287528 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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What you said about priests is also true for Muslims too. Less than 0.1 % create all the problems you hear and 99.9 % are peaceful law abiding Muslims.
But did you see the hype in Media and Islam bashing all over the world?
Why not we use the same law for them?
Very true and I agree with you.

Correct me MUQ, if I am wrong.

Chuck Todd from MSNBC said recently that many of the rebels in Syria are al Qaeda connected.

I always understood that al Qaeda comes from Sunni Muslims and Iran and Syria are mostly Shiite Muslim.

In 2003 BUSH freed the Shiites in Iraq and today the Shiites are in control of the whole country, and loyal to Iran.

Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani
http://www.sistani.org/
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#287529 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Yet according to their Financial reports, they owe much to the banks and they have to go to banks for financing new projects.
So where is the cash they have?
Is it real or imaginary?
All wealthy e.g. Donald Trump get loans for new projects.

The Bush/Cheney and Obama/Biden bailouts for Wall Street were supposed to help average Americans to get low interest loans.

NEVER HAPPENED.

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Bill Clinton: The Great Deregulator
September 10, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/culdhuu
Bill Clinton bears as much responsibility as any politician for the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and the wild applause for his disingenuous speech at the Democratic National Convention last week is a sure sign of the poverty of what passes for progressive politics.

Do those convention delegates, and the fawning media that were wowed by the former president’s rhetorical seductions, not recall that just before he left office Clinton signed off on the game-changing legislation that ended the sensible rules imposed on Wall Street during the Great Depression? It was Clinton who cooperated with the Republicans in reversing the legacy of FDR’s New Deal, opening the floodgates of unfettered avarice that almost drowned the world’s economy during the reign of George W. Bush.

How convenient to ignore the Financial Services Modernization Act, which Clinton signed into law to summarily end the Glass-Steagall barrier against the commingling of investment and commercial banking. Do the Democrats not remember that Citigroup, the first too-big-to-fail bank made legal by the law Clinton signed, became the $15 million employer of Robert Rubin, the Clinton treasury secretary who led the fight for the law that legalized the creation of Citigroup? Or that Citigroup—led by Sanford Weill, to whom Clinton gave one of the souvenir pens he used to approve that onerous legislation—went on to be a major player in the subprime mortgage swindles and had to be bailed out with more than $50 billion of taxpayer funds?
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/10-5...
spocko

Oakland, CA

#287532 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Yet according to their Financial reports, they owe much to the banks and they have to go to banks for financing new projects.
So where is the cash they have?
Is it real or imaginary?
Huh?
spocko

Oakland, CA

#287533 Apr 29, 2013
the republican’s idea of “welfare”
http://www.doobybrain.com/2013/04/29/hong-kon...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#287534 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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What you said about priests is also true for Muslims too. Less than 0.1 % create all the problems you hear and 99.9 % are peaceful law abiding Muslims.
But did you see the hype in Media and Islam bashing all over the world?
Why not we use the same law for them?
.1%? That number appears a little low don't you think comrade? Lets face the facts...almost all regions currently in the world experiencing war, killing, genocide, aggression etc. are muslim regions...Syria...Lybia...Afri ca...has there ever been a time of peace in the muslim world?
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#287535 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet according to their Financial reports, they owe much to the banks and they have to go to banks for financing new projects.
So where is the cash they have?
Is it real or imaginary?
Not following you on this one comrade, perhaps Frankie can explain it to you why corporations worth billions go to get financing...probably a share the risk liability thingy but anyhoot, the bride and I just got back from holiday in Hawaii and Palm Desert California and I have a request for you muslims, please take over Palm Desert, seems to be a weekend MECCA for the neighbors of Gayfrancisco, frankie's area...nothing but gay men running around their golf course villa pools in underwear chasing each other...sickening. The local women say the most difficult thing to find in that area is a straight man, can you believe that sh*t? I'm so glad to be back home where real men live...
ABs

Atlanta, GA

#287536 Apr 29, 2013
OBUMBLE the ONE...the greatest president since....GWB the great...

Ultimately, Obama’s failure to close Guantánamo is due to an absence of will, not an absence of authority.- Baher Azmy on the president's claims that Congress has prevented him from closing Guantánamo

Barack Obama continues to ignore the Guantánamo Bay prison, even as "its continued existence is literally a matter of life and death," writes lawyer Baher Azmy in the Daily Beast. Azmy's firm represents a number of detainees who are on hunger strike within the prison, and he depicts the horrific scenes of them being kept alive by guards who strap them into chairs and force-feed them by shoving tubes through their noses, down their throats, and into their stomachs.

"I am tortured in the restraining chair," one client tells him. "All my limbs are restrained and my clothes soaked from vomiting the formula mixed with water and laxatives." These men consider enduring such horrors their only option for peaceful protest. President Obama could end this, if he'd just drop his own refusal to repatriate anyone to Yemen, the country from which 90 of the remaining 166 detainees hail. Obama may be making a "political calculation" by ignoring Guantánamo. "But, in so doing, he would be ignoring a more serious moral calculation," Azmy writes.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287537 Apr 29, 2013
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

What the U.S. Bombing of Cambodia Tells Us About Obama's Drone Campaign

By Henry Grabar (Contd.)

William Shawcross, in 1979's Sideshow: Kissenger. Nixon and the Destruction of Cambodia , was the first to advance the theory that the meteoric rise of the Khmer Rouge was not in spite of the U.S. bombing campaign but because of it. Taylor Owen, the research director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia, and Ben Kiernan, director of the Genocide Studies Program at Yale, have concluded that the full war archives, released by President Clinton in 2000, confirm this version of history.

"The impact of this bombing... is clearer than ever," they write. "Civilian casualties in Cambodia drove an enraged populace into the arms of an insurgency that had enjoyed relatively little support until the bombing began, setting in motion the expansion of the Vietnam War deeper into Cambodia, a coup d'etat in 1970, the rapid rise of the Khmer Rouge, and ultimately the Cambodian genocide."

In tactical terms, contemporary drone attacks are far more precise than the pell-mell Cambodia-era bombs. One comparison, though, remains apt: in both cases, the American government has been less than forthcoming about the effect of these weapons on local populations. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports that between 2,500 and 3,500 people have been killed by drone strikes, including -- contrary to the recent statements of CIA nominee John Brennan -- between 473 and 893 civilians, and 176 children.(The classification of civilians has been called into question as well. The Obama administration reportedly "counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants," unless posthumously proved innocent.)

Owen and Kiernan saw the parallel to current anti-terror operations before the Department of Justice did. In 2010, they published a paper in The Asia-Pacific Journal called " Roots of U.S. Troubles in Afghanistan: Civilian Bombing Casualties and the Cambodian Precedent," in which they argue that incidents like the predator drone strike on a Pakistani village in 2006 created direct blowback.

This point of view is echoed by Pakistani journalist Mohammed Hanif, who recently argued that the strikes are not only radicalizing the population but are "creating a whole new generation of people who will grow up thinking that this is what happened to us and now, now we want revenge." In Pakistan and Yemen, Jo Becker and Scott Shane wrote in the New York Times, "drones have become the recruiting tool of choice for militants."

In this respect, the DOJ could not have found a more fitting precedent than the carpet-bombing of Cambodia. The purpose of the sustained bombardment from 1972 to 1973 was to prevent the Khmer Rouge from consolidating power. The result was the opposite.

The thousands of people killed so far by drone strikes represent a fraction of the several hundred thousand who died beneath the B-52s between 1969 and 1975. But the level of fear and anger -- and the opportunity for insurgent groups to harness those emotions -- cannot be so easily calculated.

In the words of retired General Stanley McChrystal, the former commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, one can't help but hear an echo of Charles Meyer, Richard Dudman, and other observers of the Cambodia campaign. "What scares me about the drone strikes is how they are perceived around the world," ..

This article was originally posted at The Atlantic
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287538 Apr 29, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
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All wealthy e.g. Donald Trump get loans for new projects.
The Bush/Cheney and Obama/Biden bailouts for Wall Street were supposed to help average Americans to get low interest loans.

NEVER HAPPENED.
..
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/10-5...
All these Big politicians are "indebted" to these big houses.

What they say to the public is just for public propaganda and what they really do helps only the super rich.

I heard that most of the senators and assembly members who drafted the Health Insurance Bill during the time of GWB the great, resigned and joined these Big Medical Insurance forms at Multi Dollar pay package.

They were "moles" inserted into the Political system by these Big Corporation.

USA is what they call "Capitalist" country and most of laws help only these Super Rich people.

When would USA be a Free Country is debatable.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287539 Apr 30, 2013
Democracy wrote:
Very true and I agree with you.

Correct me MUQ, if I am wrong.

Chuck Todd from MSNBC said recently that many of the rebels in Syria are al Qaeda connected.

I always understood that al Qaeda comes from Sunni Muslims and Iran and Syria are mostly Shiite Muslim.

In 2003 BUSH freed the Shiites in Iraq and today the Shiites are in control of the whole country, and loyal to Iran.

Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani
http://www.sistani.org/
Ans.

Al Qaeda has become a "Catch Word" in Western Media.

No one knows if any such organization exists or not.

Any one any every one can claim that he or she is a Member of Al Qaeda and "people" (by people I mean Media) accepts it on face value.

No question need be asked as to "How do you claim Al Qaeda membership, since your Boss is dead and no one knows who is the next boos".

Western Media need enemy, any type of enemy, to pump up their populations.

Now Al Qaeda has become "blame all" fall guy.

No one knows who is fighting with the Govt. in Syria. There is some loose organization of every one who is affected by the atrocities of the present Syrian Govt.

But to western media, they all are Al Qaeda Members, what can I say?

GWB the Great was an idiot, and the harm which he did to USA would take at least 100 years to heal.

The aim to attack Iraq was to remove a "potential enemy " of Israel. I don’t know if he cared who was ruling Iraq, Shia or Sunni.

And if you ask him what is difference between Shia and Sunni, he would reply "Who cares"? They are Muslims, why should I know or care whom we are killing!!

Such people are "Fit" to become US Presidents and rule Iraq by US laws!!

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#287540 Apr 30, 2013
AB wrote:
1.

.1%? That number appears a little low don't you think comrade? Lets face the facts...almost all regions currently in the world experiencing war, killing, genocide, aggression etc. are muslim regions...Syria...Libya...Afri ca...has there ever been a time of peace in the muslim world?

2.

Not following you on this one comrade, perhaps Frankie can explain it to you why corporations worth billions go to get financing...probably a share the risk liability thingy but anyhoot, the bride and I just got back from holiday in Hawaii and Palm Desert California and I have a request for you muslims, please take over Palm Desert, seems to be a weekend MECCA for the neighbors of Gayfrancisco, frankie's area...nothing but gay men running around their golf course villa pools in underwear chasing each other...sickening. The local women say the most difficult thing to find in that area is a straight man, can you believe that sh*t? I'm so glad to be back home where real men live...
Ans.

1. According to me 0.1% was on the Higher Side!! Find out the number of Muslims living in the world and then count the Total Number of these so called "Terrorists", the figure would be less than 0.1 %!!

Perhaps you are not as good in calculations as you think!!

2. What I wanted to say is that it is Banks and Financial Institutions who have "Most of shares" of these Multi Billion Dollar Corporations. So it is these institutions who get "Biggest share of Pie".

In the same way, these corporations have Billions of Dollars of Cash but for new projects and even for "routine works" they take money from Banks and pay interest on them.

I know there are Economists who can explain "Every thing" . But some how, I do not follow their reasoning.

To me they do not make any sense, some one having Billions upon Billions as "Cash" with him, but "begging banks" to lend him money on Interest.

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