Iraq War's 10th Anniversary: The Inva...

Iraq War's 10th Anniversary: The Invasion

There are 57 comments on the www.theatlantic.com story from Mar 19, 2013, titled Iraq War's 10th Anniversary: The Invasion. In it, www.theatlantic.com reports that:

A decade ago, the U.S. and its allies invaded Iraq on the premise that the country was hiding weapons of mass destruction.

Despite worldwide protest and a lack of UN authorization, 200,000 thousand troops deployed into Iraq in March of 2003, following massive airstrikes. The coalition faced minimal opposition, and Baghdad quickly fell. For years after President George W. Bush's "mission accomplished" speech, the war raged on, fueled by sectarian conflicts, al Qaeda insurgencies, outside agencies, and mismanagement of the occupation.

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VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#48 Mar 20, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year" -Mansoor Ijaz, L.A. Times, December 5, 2001
Under Clinton, we suffered 6 major attacks that were orchestrated by Bin Laden.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Bill Clinton warned America in his radio address that we should not overreact to the 1993 WTC bombing. "I would discourage the American people from overreacting to this," Clinton said.
After the 1993 ambush in Somalia, which killed 19 and injured 84; President Clinton just tucked tail and ran away.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished......didn't happen
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished......nada, didn't happen.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.......uh, no again
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Shortly after the bombing of the Cole, Clinton had an opportunity to take Bin Laden out and refused to.(See Below)
A Pentagon intelligence expert on terrorism in the Persian Gulf has told Congress that he warned of possible terrorist attacks on U.S. forces.
7th months into Bush's first term....9/11. "Uh, it's Bush fault....not fkn hardly!!
Howard Dean : The intelligence was corrupted, not just because of the incompetence of the CIA; it was corrupted because it was being changed around before it was presented to Congress . Stuff was taken out and not presented. All of this business about weapons of mass destruction, there was significant and substantial evidence ... that said, "There is a strong body of opinion that says they don't have a nuclear program, nor do they have weapons of mass destruction." And that intelligence was not given to the Congress of the United States.
NBC's Tim Russert: It was in the National Intelligence Estimate, as a caveat by the State Department.
Dean: It was, a very small one, but the actual caveat that the White House got were (sic) much, much greater. And the deputy to Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson, just said so. He just came out and said so.
On this point Dean is incorrect . Wilkerson, who was State Department chief of staff during Bush's first term, actually said there was an "overwhelming" consensus within the intelligence community. He said the State Department dissented only regarding a nuclear program, not about whether Saddam possessed chemical and biological weapons.
I am not sure if Fox News reported this BUT, Clinton captured the culprits and gave them life sentences with no parole for the Feb. 26, 1993 WTC Bombings.

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Iraq: What Did Congress Know, And When?

November 19, 2005

Bush says Congress had the same (faulty) intelligence he did. Howard Dean says intelligence was "corrupted." We give facts.

http://www.factcheck.org/iraq_what_did_congre...
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#49 Mar 20, 2013
Just for the record, under Richard Clarke's leadership as Czar of Counterterrorism:
CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge. Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania. Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.). Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice. Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first WTC bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively - and successfully - to stop future terrorist attacks. Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism. Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security.(Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines. Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests. Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA. Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I. Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism. Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries. Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
Clarence Swinney,
Political Historian
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#50 Mar 20, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush closed Clinton's bin laden unit because it was useless as tits on a boar hog.
After 9/11..........
Mr. Obama, now in his fith year as president, adopting Bush-era measures and has kept and expanded these measures.
Special operations forces. One of the first steps taken by President Bush after Sept. 11 was to revive, fund and expand special operations forces as the dog that would hunt down and kill terrorists.
President Bush also made U.S. Special Operations a war-independent command, just like U.S. Central Command, meaning it could plan and execute its own battle plans.
The U.S. Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), the Army's Delta Force and Navy’s SEAL Team 6 mostly had focused on hostage rescue. After Sept. 11, they started receiving the manpower and intelligence to become manhunters. Their biggest successes: Saddam Hussein; al Qaeda’s top Iraq terrorist, Abu Musab Zarqawi; and Osama bin Laden.
Special Ops/Intelligence. The Bush administration fused commandos with the nation’s intelligence agencies — the CIA, the National Security Agency and the Defense Intelligence Agency — into task forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.
President Bush also transferred a highly secretive military intelligence unit, which specialized in technical surveillance and intercepts, to the Joint Special Operations Command so that commandos and intelligence experts could work together directly.
Predator strikes. The Bush administration established Predator drone bases in Pakistan to strike at al Qaeda and Taliban extremists in that country’s frontier badlands, where U.S. ground troops cannot go.
Clinton PDD 63
http://tinyurl.com/cvuom

For Immediate Release May 22, 1998 FACT SHEET PROTECTING AMERICA'S
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURES: PDD 63
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd-63.htm

Clinton PDD 62
http://tinyurl.com/bze57

COMBATING TERRORISM: PRESIDENTIAL DECISION DIRECTIVE 62
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ciao/62fa...
Makes sense

Dearborn, MI

#51 Mar 20, 2013
Tanks for the memories. Wait until our grandchildren have to pay the interest on the war debt. We really need a war tax taken from our paychecks and capital gains, something like FICA that we can see every two weeks. It will make us proud to be warring Americans, a constant reminder that we care more about war and the military industrial complex than our crumbling infrastructure at home, healthcare, Medicare, and Social Security. Where is our President Eisenhower when we need him?? Unfortunately they don't make Republicans like that anymore.

LIES, BITTER LITTLE LIES
Over 100 Lies Told to Promote the Iraq War
An Iraq invasion 10-year anniversary special

42 min ago by Mary Noble

It's well known that when America invaded Iraq, Bush and Cheney had no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to 9/11 and knew that the chance of finding WMDs was virtually nil.

What's less well remembered is the long series of lies and misdirections that convinced Americans that war with Iraq was both necessary and desirable.

A full catalog has been compiled by Mother Jones, totaling over 200 entries. It features numerous contributions from Dick Cheney, such as his false statement on Meet the Press just one week before the invasion: "'We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.'(Cheney later claims he misspoke.)"

The timeline also includes many now-forgotten moments of malfeasance by the mainstream media and Bush's advisors, who collectively downplayed doubts over the grounds for war.

For instance, just one day before the invasion, the Washington Post buried an article revealing major doubts over the grounds for invasion deep inside the newspaper, on page A13: "As the Bush administration prepares to attack Iraq this week, it is doing so on the basis of a number of allegations against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein that have been challenged - and in some cases disproved - by the United Nations, European governments and even U.S. intelligence reports."

The timeline also shows the dates at which the public learned they'd been deceived - in most cases months after the invasion.

Via Mother Jones.
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#52 Mar 20, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year" -Mansoor Ijaz, L.A. Times, December 5, 2001
Under Clinton, we suffered 6 major attacks that were orchestrated by Bin Laden.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Bill Clinton warned America in his radio address that we should not overreact to the 1993 WTC bombing. "I would discourage the American people from overreacting to this," Clinton said.
After the 1993 ambush in Somalia, which killed 19 and injured 84; President Clinton just tucked tail and ran away.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished......didn't happen
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished......nada, didn't happen.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.......uh, no again
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Shortly after the bombing of the Cole, Clinton had an opportunity to take Bin Laden out and refused to.(See Below)
A Pentagon intelligence expert on terrorism in the Persian Gulf has told Congress that he warned of possible terrorist attacks on U.S. forces.
7th months into Bush's first term....9/11. "Uh, it's Bush fault....not fkn hardly!!
Howard Dean : The intelligence was corrupted, not just because of the incompetence of the CIA; it was corrupted because it was being changed around before it was presented to Congress . Stuff was taken out and not presented. All of this business about weapons of mass destruction, there was significant and substantial evidence ... that said, "There is a strong body of opinion that says they don't have a nuclear program, nor do they have weapons of mass destruction." And that intelligence was not given to the Congress of the United States.
NBC's Tim Russert: It was in the National Intelligence Estimate, as a caveat by the State Department.
Dean: It was, a very small one, but the actual caveat that the White House got were (sic) much, much greater. And the deputy to Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson, just said so. He just came out and said so.
On this point Dean is incorrect . Wilkerson, who was State Department chief of staff during Bush's first term, actually said there was an "overwhelming" consensus within the intelligence community. He said the State Department dissented only regarding a nuclear program, not about whether Saddam possessed chemical and biological weapons.
Too be 100% fair and accurate Bush and Cheney lost two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with the best military on earth.

Obama and Biden did the same by continuing the failed policies of Bush/Cheney.

A Pox on both Houses.

Obama is a corporate hack loser just like Bush.

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Charlie Rose - Sir Jeremy Greenstock:'Tony Blair knew Iraq had no nuclear capability'
http://tinyurl.com/6bc7vn

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#53 Mar 20, 2013
DENG wrote:
SURE, 250,000 DEAD U.S. TROOPS.
up against the great wall, MF!
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#54 Mar 20, 2013
TERRORISM PREVENTION ACT--CONFERENCE REPORT
http://tinyurl.com/2lj3t8

Congressional Record: April 17, 1996 (Senate)- Pages S3454-S3478 DOCID:cr17ap96-153

Terrorism prevention Act--Conference Report

Orrin Hatch: Mr. President, again, in the real world, in the case of the Unabomber or a terrorist where there is a real threat or an immediate concern, you do not need this
provision to get an emergency wiretap. All the Senator's motion does is expand the number of crimes that would trigger the wiretap statute. This amendment was offered during the Senate debate. It was defeated. It was not a part of the Senate bill. It was not a part of the House bill. It is not a part of our conference report, and rightly so. I oppose this provision that could expand emergency wiretap authority to permit the Government to begin a wiretap prior to obtaining court approval in a greater range of cases than the law presently allows. I personally find this proposal troubling. I am concerned that this provision, if enacted, would unnecessarily broaden emergency wiretap authority. Under current law, such authority exists when life is in danger, when the national security is threatened, or when an organized crime conspiracy is involved. In the real world, we do not need this amendment to get emergency wiretap authority, and that is a fact.
Let me also say that this authority is constrained by a requirement that surveillance be approved by the Court within 48 hours, but that authority already exists in those areas I have addressed.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#55 Mar 20, 2013
COMPREHENSIVE ANTITERRORISM ACT OF 1995
http://tinyurl.com/ys56o4

Congressional Record: April 18, 1996 (House)- Pages H3605-H3618 Government Printing Office's Online Records: DOCID:cr18ap96-43

Conference Report on s. 735, Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996
Dan Burton (R-Ind): If the Government of the United States can through, quote-unquote, good faith tap our phones and intrude into our lives, they violate our constitutional liberties, and that is something that we should not tolerate, and that is in section 305 and section 307. The FBI can gain access to individual phone billing records without a subpoena or a court order. Once again I believe that infringes upon our constitutional rights and liberties, and while we are trying to deal with terrorism, and we should, we should not violate our constitutional rights and liberties, and I believe this bill in its present form does. And that is why I think the Barr amendment is absolutely essential if we are going to pass something that will really deal with terrorism crime, but protect the liberties that we fought so hard for in the Revolutionary War.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdo...
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#56 Mar 20, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year" -Mansoor Ijaz, L.A. Times, December 5, 2001
Under Clinton, we suffered 6 major attacks that were orchestrated by Bin Laden.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Bill Clinton warned America in his radio address that we should not overreact to the 1993 WTC bombing. "I would discourage the American people from overreacting to this," Clinton said.
After the 1993 ambush in Somalia, which killed 19 and injured 84; President Clinton just tucked tail and ran away.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished......didn't happen
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished......nada, didn't happen.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.......uh, no again
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Shortly after the bombing of the Cole, Clinton had an opportunity to take Bin Laden out and refused to.(See Below)
A Pentagon intelligence expert on terrorism in the Persian Gulf has told Congress that he warned of possible terrorist attacks on U.S. forces.
7th months into Bush's first term....9/11. "Uh, it's Bush fault....not fkn hardly!!
Howard Dean : The intelligence was corrupted, not just because of the incompetence of the CIA; it was corrupted because it was being changed around before it was presented to Congress . Stuff was taken out and not presented. All of this business about weapons of mass destruction, there was significant and substantial evidence ... that said, "There is a strong body of opinion that says they don't have a nuclear program, nor do they have weapons of mass destruction." And that intelligence was not given to the Congress of the United States.
NBC's Tim Russert: It was in the National Intelligence Estimate, as a caveat by the State Department.
Dean: It was, a very small one, but the actual caveat that the White House got were (sic) much, much greater. And the deputy to Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson, just said so. He just came out and said so.
On this point Dean is incorrect . Wilkerson, who was State Department chief of staff during Bush's first term, actually said there was an "overwhelming" consensus within the intelligence community. He said the State Department dissented only regarding a nuclear program, not about whether Saddam possessed chemical and biological weapons.
Republican Presidents Dereliction of Duty
Ronald Reagan, who did not retaliate for the murder of 278 United States Marines in Beirut and who violated his own terrorism policy by trading arms for hostages in what came to be called the Iran-Contra scandal; http://tinyurl.com/9s52o

George H.W. Bush, who did not retaliate for the Libyan murder of 259 passengers on Pan Am 103; who did not have an official counter terrorism policy; who left Saddam Hussein in place, requiring the United States to leave a large military presence in Saudi Arabia.

George W. Bush who did not alert the airports having known the CIA warning memo August 6, 2001: Usama bin Laden and al Qaeda determined to strike inside the United States. FBI warned John Ashcroft July 26, 2001 not to fly on commercial airlines.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/nat...

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#57 Mar 20, 2013
VoteVets org wrote:
<quoted text>
Republican Presidents Dereliction of Duty
Ronald Reagan, who did not retaliate for the murder of 278 United States Marines in Beirut and who violated his own terrorism policy by trading arms for hostages in what came to be called the Iran-Contra scandal; http://tinyurl.com/9s52o
George H.W. Bush, who did not retaliate for the Libyan murder of 259 passengers on Pan Am 103; who did not have an official counter terrorism policy; who left Saddam Hussein in place, requiring the United States to leave a large military presence in Saudi Arabia.
George W. Bush who did not alert the airports having known the CIA warning memo August 6, 2001: Usama bin Laden and al Qaeda determined to strike inside the United States. FBI warned John Ashcroft July 26, 2001 not to fly on commercial airlines.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/nat...
Technically, Reagan did retaliate for the Marines killed in the Beruit bombing. He ordered aviators from the JFK to attack targets in Lebabon; but insisted on operational command. Mr. Reagan overrode the skipper's plan to attack at night, and ordered a daylight attack (because he wanted to 'respond' RIGHT NOW,) which led to many US casualties, and few target hits.

Having made an effort to respond, Reagan promptly forgot the whole affair.
two2tango

Bryn Mawr, PA

#58 Mar 20, 2013
Makes sense wrote:
Tanks for the memories. Wait until our grandchildren have to pay the interest on the war debt. We really need a war tax taken from our paychecks and capital gains, something like FICA that we can see every two weeks. It will make us proud to be warring Americans, a constant reminder that we care more about war and the military industrial complex than our crumbling infrastructure at home, healthcare, Medicare, and Social Security. Where is our President Eisenhower when we need him?? Unfortunately they don't make Republicans like that anymore.
LIES, BITTER LITTLE LIES
Over 100 Lies Told to Promote the Iraq War
An Iraq invasion 10-year anniversary special
42 min ago by Mary Noble
It's well known that when America invaded Iraq, Bush and Cheney had no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to 9/11 and knew that the chance of finding WMDs was virtually nil.
What's less well remembered is the long series of lies and misdirections that convinced Americans that war with Iraq was both necessary and desirable.
A full catalog has been compiled by Mother Jones, totaling over 200 entries. It features numerous contributions from Dick Cheney, such as his false statement on Meet the Press just one week before the invasion: "'We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.'(Cheney later claims he misspoke.)"
The timeline also includes many now-forgotten moments of malfeasance by the mainstream media and Bush's advisors, who collectively downplayed doubts over the grounds for war.
For instance, just one day before the invasion, the Washington Post buried an article revealing major doubts over the grounds for invasion deep inside the newspaper, on page A13: "As the Bush administration prepares to attack Iraq this week, it is doing so on the basis of a number of allegations against Iraqi President Saddam Hussein that have been challenged - and in some cases disproved - by the United Nations, European governments and even U.S. intelligence reports."
The timeline also shows the dates at which the public learned they'd been deceived - in most cases months after the invasion.
Via Mother Jones.
The Iraq invasion/occupation was basically perpetuated by a Dick in a position to lie, manipulate and/or ignore the truth for a personal agenda. One of the many lies Dick talked about was the Iraq terror connection to 9-11 and M Atta.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/03/cia-an...

This is more evidence or poor intelligence or another example of a lie to perpetuate and exploit the many myths of 9-11.

Summed up the Iraq invasion/occupation was about a bunch of older rich guys letting their Dick speak for them and act on their behalf.
VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#59 Mar 20, 2013
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Technically, Reagan did retaliate for the Marines killed in the Beruit bombing. He ordered aviators from the JFK to attack targets in Lebabon; but insisted on operational command. Mr. Reagan overrode the skipper's plan to attack at night, and ordered a daylight attack (because he wanted to 'respond' RIGHT NOW,) which led to many US casualties, and few target hits.
Having made an effort to respond, Reagan promptly forgot the whole affair.
Good point.

Also Reagan did more harm than good for the whole world.

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The CIA provided a stream of accurate reports to the Reagan / Bush administration that Pakistan’s Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan was making nuclear weapons-grade uranium throughout the 1980’s. Reagan / Bush did absolutely nothing to stop it because Pakistani ISI was helping Usama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and Taliban to oust the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The Russians wanted to control Afghanistan for future oil and gas pipelines from the Caspian Sea Oil and Gas Region.

Now fast forward to October 2001, CIA questioned two senior Pakistani scientists Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood and Chaudry Abdul Majid and they said Pro-Taliban feelings extend beyond the Pakistani Army, the ISI, it is right into Pakistan’s nuclear-weapons laboratories. Dr. A.Q. Khan confessed that he helped with the Pakistani government assistance, to sell nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. These Pakistani nuclear scientists have close ties to radical Islamic terrorists groups.

George “Ignorant Iraqi Oil” Bush did not do anything about Pakistan’s government selling nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. The CIA had 100% proof of this and George “Incompetent” Bush came out publicly with the truth on October 16, 2002, only 5 days after the Congress voted for Military Force against Iraq. Ignorant Bush also sold F-16 aircraft to Pakistan.
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The USS Stark Incident
http://tinyurl.com/3e7fx
http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id344.htm

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VoteVets org

Sayville, NY

#60 Mar 20, 2013
Pakistani Nuclear Warheads, Weapon Devices
Pakistan, very rapidly, established its own uranium enrichment capability and was, reportedly, able to produce highly-enriched uranium by 1986. This progress was so rapid that international suspicion was raised as to whether it had had outside assistance. It was reported that Chinese technicians had been at the facility in the early 1980s, but suspicions soon fell on Dr. A.Q. Khan's activities at URENCO. In 1983, he was sentenced in absentia to four years in prison by an Amsterdam court for attempted espionage, although the sentence was later overturned on appeal on a legal technicality. Dr. A.Q. Khan rejected any suggestion that Pakistan had illicitly acquired nuclear expertise: "All the research work [at Kahuta] was the result of our innovation and struggle," he told a group of Pakistani librarians in 1990. "We did not receive any technical know-how from abroad, but we cannot reject the use of books, magazines, and research papers in this connection."

In 1987, a British newspaper reported that Dr. A.Q. Khan had openly confirmed Pakistan's acquisition of a nuclear weapons capability. It was after western agencies realized the scale of the developmet that all formal aid to Pakistan was suspended in the early 1990s. It was quoted as confirming that the U.S. intelligence report "about our possessing the [nuclear] bomb is correct and so is speculation of some foreign newspapers" and criticised Pakistan's detractors, who had "told the U.S. that Pakistan could never produce the [nuclear] bomb and they now know we have done it." Dr. A.Q. Khan's statement was, subsequently, disavowed by the Government of Pakistan and Dr. A.Q. Khan, himself, initially, denied giving it, although, he, later, retracted his denial. The Pakistani newspaper Dawn reported in October 1991 that Dr. A.Q. Khan repeated his claim at a dinner meeting of businessmen and industrialists in Karachi, which "sent a wave of jubilation" through the audience.
http://hindustan.org/forum/archive/index.php/...

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Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#61 Mar 20, 2013
Could you two get a room, or just switch to blowing one another? Your circle jerk going on here is getting very messy.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#62 Mar 20, 2013
Far Away wrote:
Could you two get a room, or just switch to blowing one another? Your circle jerk going on here is getting very messy.
I presume you address your father and uncle. Keep it in Alaska, where men are men, and men are men. Be happy your dad can take it like a man.
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#63 Mar 20, 2013
Well first, my father and uncle are dead and therefore not on topix, so clearly I was talking to you and VoteVets. Second, you're damned right that in Alaska, unlike New Yuck where you and Vote are stroking one another, men (most anyway) are men.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#65 Mar 20, 2013
Far Away wrote:
Well first, my father and uncle are dead and therefore not on topix, so clearly I was talking to you and VoteVets. Second, you're damned right that in Alaska, unlike New Yuck where you and Vote are stroking one another, men (most anyway) are men.
You are obviously obsessed with homosexual thoughts. I don't know if Anchorage has a bus station; but that's where my mother warned me to stay away from as a child.

So, why don't you try the men's room at the bus station?
You may get fulfilled, all over.

Good luck, and be yourself.

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