Vision enters six cars for May 27 Ind...

Vision enters six cars for May 27 Indy 500

There are 58 comments on the CBS Sportsline.com story from Mar 15, 2007, titled Vision enters six cars for May 27 Indy 500. In it, CBS Sportsline.com reports that:

Vision Racing, the team co-owned by Indianapolis Motor Speedway and IRL boss Tony George, entered six cars Thursday for the Indy 500.

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Fred Hughes

United States

#1 Mar 16, 2007
I have been following the 500 since late 1930's. I love the race, been there many times,
I just wish I could be there this year. My best year was when Jim Clark won and brought a change in engine location. I am an avid Penske fan. I guess Tony George is trying to be sure there will 33 cars this year. That's great, I just wish he would announce who will run his team.Tony give Wilbur Shaw some credit for saving the track and the 500.
Clay

AOL

#2 Mar 17, 2007
I think Tony George should own all 33 cars in the Indy 500 and rent them out on race day. This way Tony wouldn't have to worry about filling the field!
staggerlee

De Forest, WI

#3 Mar 17, 2007
Atta boy, Fred, There's no race like Indy. You've got me in years as I've been an Indy-holic since I was a boy in the fifties. My lungs inhibit my attending the race but I'm looking forward to being there for Pole Day. You must have some great stories to tell?
Fred Hughes wrote:
I have been following the 500 since late 1930's. I love the race, been there many times,
I just wish I could be there this year. My best year was when Jim Clark won and brought a change in engine location. I am an avid Penske fan. I guess Tony George is trying to be sure there will 33 cars this year. That's great, I just wish he would announce who will run his team.Tony give Wilbur Shaw some credit for saving the track and the 500.
caveat emptor

United States

#4 Mar 17, 2007
""The cars, all Dallaras, will be driven by veterans Ed Carpenter, Tomas Scheckter and A.J. Foyt IV.""

Calling Foyt and Carpenter "veterans" is like calling stringy mutton spring lamb.

“Waiting to inhale”

Since: Feb 07

Chicago

#5 Mar 17, 2007
Fred/Staggerlee...I am in awe of both of you.

My first race was one of the tragic ones, 1973. But I was hooked and have attened all but four races since then.

Nowadays, I take several of my vacation days and probably make at least six different trips to the track through May. I love it...even through the unfortunate politics of the past 12 years or so, I just can't get enough of Indy and the Month of May.

...and I would give ANYTHING to go in a time machine and see the '30's!
Louie

United States

#6 Mar 17, 2007
Indycarmike57 wrote:
I love it...even through the unfortunate politics of the past 12 years or so, I just can't get enough of Indy and the Month of May.
...and I would give ANYTHING to go in a time machine and see the '30's!
Wow. Since your profile sez you are a Cub fan you must be my evil twin :)

Why the 30's Mike? My own affinity has been for The 500 of the mid to late twenties.

Have you read Brock Yates' book "Umbrella Mike"?

A great history of The 500 in the thirties.
PAT SANTELLO

AOL

#7 Mar 17, 2007
WELL THATS ONE WAY TO FILL THE FIELD AT " INDY " TO ENTER ( 6 ) CARS?? FAR CRY FROM THE OLD DAYS???!!! THAT FOR SURE WILL NEVER BE UNDER THE PRESENT RULES OF SPEC RACING??? SAD..
Big Mac Daddy

Michigan City, IN

#8 Mar 18, 2007
good thing tony created the irl and saved racing. go to hell tony.
Clay

AOL

#9 Mar 18, 2007
Big Mac Daddy wrote:
good thing tony created the irl and saved racing. go to hell tony.
For those race fans who don't remember what the Indy was like before Tony saved open wheel racing....here's a quote form last year:

Another embarrassing entry list for the Indy 500

Before we get excited about the 38 cars that applied for the 2006 Indy 500, remember that 12 are listed as TBA. That brings down the confirmed drivers to 26, well short of the traditional number of 33 starters. In contrast, the 1995 entry list showed 62 cars not including T cars. That was the last Indy 500 before the split, and featured three chassis manufacturers (Lola, Reynard, Penske), six different engines (Ford, Mercedes, Honda, Menard, Buick, and the homemade Greenfield). I believe 2006 is the first time ever at Indy that we'll know the winning engine manufacturer in advance. Congratulations, Honda.

“Waiting to inhale”

Since: Feb 07

Chicago

#10 Mar 18, 2007
Clay, it is depressing to be remiinded of that; you're right.

But my question is this: Why does Andrew Craig and that old CART board always get a pass on what happend? It's not to wash Tony clean of any responsibility, but why does Craig get a pass?
Clay wrote:
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For those race fans who don't remember what the Indy was like before Tony saved open wheel racing....here's a quote form last year:
Another embarrassing entry list for the Indy 500
Before we get excited about the 38 cars that applied for the 2006 Indy 500, remember that 12 are listed as TBA. That brings down the confirmed drivers to 26, well short of the traditional number of 33 starters. In contrast, the 1995 entry list showed 62 cars not including T cars. That was the last Indy 500 before the split, and featured three chassis manufacturers (Lola, Reynard, Penske), six different engines (Ford, Mercedes, Honda, Menard, Buick, and the homemade Greenfield). I believe 2006 is the first time ever at Indy that we'll know the winning engine manufacturer in advance. Congratulations, Honda.

“Waiting to inhale”

Since: Feb 07

Chicago

#11 Mar 18, 2007
I'll look for that book, Louie. I do have Indianapolis 500 Chronicles by Rick Popely which goes through the first 1909 motorcycle race (that the Speedway will commemorate in two years with MotoGT...talk about cool!)to the Eddie Cheever win I believe.

Louie wrote:
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Wow. Since your profile sez you are a Cub fan you must be my evil twin :)
Why the 30's Mike? My own affinity has been for The 500 of the mid to late twenties.
Have you read Brock Yates' book "Umbrella Mike"?
A great history of The 500 in the thirties.
CONCERNEDCARMELM AN

United States

#14 Mar 18, 2007
Gentlemen, and Ladies, start you engines, or as
General Custer said in 1876, "start you injuns'.
Chief

Union Springs, NY

#15 Mar 18, 2007
Andrew Craig and the CART board didn't create the IRL, that's why they get a "pass".

In fact, I dare you to exlain why the IRL was even created in the first place. CART's dead and Indy today suck way worse than it ever has, even during the evil CART regime,'79 - 95. There's your answer.
george destruction

Mount Washington, KY

#16 Mar 18, 2007
This mass entry of cars is just more proof to the general public that indy is a skeleton of what it once was thanks to tony george. the fact that he has to create a team and enter all of these cars just to fill the field as well as the rest of his IMS - part time team- welfare program which always get a handful of teams to appear before the race and go poof after the race.
The indy 500 sucks today thanks to tony georges arrogance. I grew up with it and attended many of them.
I can say this with fact.

“Waiting to inhale”

Since: Feb 07

Chicago

#17 Mar 18, 2007
I don't understand why you're paying attention to Indy 500 news then if you find it so reprehensible.

The IRL was mainly created, rightly or wrongly, because the Indianapolis Motor Speedway ownership felt that the sport was losing its oval racing tradition. The fact that the 1995 PPG Indycar schedule was about 1/3 ovals and 2/3's follow-the-leader road and street courses is just that...a fact. The Speedway hoped to address this concern with Craig and the CART board but were summarily dismissed.

Furthermore, any unbiased news gathering of exactly occured with regard to this subject, between about 1989-1995, include accounts of egos being played out on both the CART and IMS side.

Finally, I'll be happy to carry this discussion forward with you if you remain civil. Otherwise, I don't have the time for it...
Chief wrote:
Andrew Craig and the CART board didn't create the IRL, that's why they get a "pass".
In fact, I dare you to exlain why the IRL was even created in the first place. CART's dead and Indy today suck way worse than it ever has, even during the evil CART regime,'79 - 95. There's your answer.
Nellie of the North

Palos Hills, IL

#18 Mar 18, 2007
Indycarmike57 - you left out that another goal of the CART split and creation of IRL was to provide the opportunity to field primarily drivers and venues from the USA.

I would like to see Champ and IRL get back together myself or at least schedule a number of events with participants from both series. The way it is now really dilutes the audience and the talent.
Nellie of the North

Palos Hills, IL

#19 Mar 18, 2007
PAT SANTELLO wrote:
WELL THATS ONE WAY TO FILL THE FIELD AT " INDY " TO ENTER ( 6 ) CARS?? FAR CRY FROM THE OLD DAYS???!!! THAT FOR SURE WILL NEVER BE UNDER THE PRESENT RULES OF SPEC RACING??? SAD..
He's not entering six drivers, just six cars. There are three drivers entered with two cars each same as for Buddy Rice and Sarah Fisher.

“Waiting to inhale”

Since: Feb 07

Chicago

#20 Mar 18, 2007
Yes, more opportunities for some of the home grown, short track drivers who are currently going to stock cars in droves. Unfortunately, that part of the original IRL charter didn't last more than four-five years or so. I think no matter what you do, racing is a money-based sport first; talent-based second.

I believe you'll find what's left of Champ Car coming over or selling out to the IRL in the next year or so. The IRL always had the advantage with the Indy 500 and it's certainly turned out that way.

I'd LOVE to see something like what Rocketman (I think it was him) suggested though on another thread. When Champ Car finally does fold, leave the IRL name all together, start with a clean slate and call Indycar racing the National Driving Championship Series (NDCS).
Nellie of the North wrote:
Indycarmike57 - you left out that another goal of the CART split and creation of IRL was to provide the opportunity to field primarily drivers and venues from the USA.
I would like to see Champ and IRL get back together myself or at least schedule a number of events with participants from both series. The way it is now really dilutes the audience and the talent.
Chief

Union Springs, NY

#21 Mar 18, 2007
Look, the IRL failed with it's original identity and every other since then. Excuse the expression but the IRL is more and more like what CART was than whatever became of it (CCWS). What CART was was exactly the reason for the IRL's inception. Frankly 12 yrs. later that resembles failure and the only true difference is (or would be ) Mr. George would be in charge.

So, it would appear it was and is a powerplay that screwed the fans of this sport these past 12 years.
Nellie of the North

Palos Hills, IL

#22 Mar 18, 2007
It failed? I enjoy it. I go to a number of the races around the country and it seems like other folks do, too.

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