George off to Japan in pursuit of uni...

George off to Japan in pursuit of unification

There are 132 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Feb 8, 2008, titled George off to Japan in pursuit of unification. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Indy Racing League founder Tony George is headed to Japan today for what could be a key step in ending a two-decade-old split of open-wheel racing in the U.S. Key questions about the Indy Racing League and ...

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“Waiting to inhale”

Since: Feb 07

Chicago

#107 Feb 11, 2008
Very good post, Daniel. By the way, it looks like Walker is switching over regardless of what happens in Japan. Nothing like waiting until the last minute! The sponsorship market must be brutal out there right now.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/6...
Daniel wrote:
Thanks for the response, Mike. I'll accept your opinion, since you are a lot closer to Indy than I am and maybe you're a more regular reader of The Star than me. I read Cavin's blog pretty regularly, and it seems to me that he always mentions Miller with an attitude of holier-than-thou or superiority or something.
I know Miller is a polarizing figure. And I don't always like the way he injects himself into his stories (I don't think professional journalists should "call people names," among other things; Robin does that in his articles/commentaries and I think it makes him look unprofessional--imagine John Clayton doing that with an NFL owner or Peter Gammons doing that with a MBL owner). The whole split has become too personal for Miller, and it comes out in his writing in ways that I think are amateurish.
But with all that being said (just so you and whoever else reads this knows that I'm not a Miller apologist--I see the flaws and, let's face it, there's a reason he's been fired from more outlets than just about anyone else in the biz!), he still gets the stories BEFORE anyone else, he knows what's going on with both series BETTER than anyone else, and it looks to me like everyone else that reports on American open-wheel racing is always playing catch-up to Miller (including Oreo at ESPN and the guy that writes for SI). Miller's the best, despite all the stuff that drives everyone crazy!:)
Let's hope for good news this week out of Japan!
Geo

Tampa, FL

#108 Feb 11, 2008
steve wrote:
<quoted text>racing chic your a idiot robin miller covers irl and cart has more contacts than any reporter in open wheel racing and is flown all over the world by speed tv. on the other hand cavin goes to a few races otherwise hes parked on his a** at the star behind a desk.get your facts straight racing chic .
Fix your grammar mistakes first before anyone will take your opinions seriously.
Daniel

Boiling Springs, NC

#109 Feb 11, 2008
Great tip on Walker--I hadn't seen that article. Thanks for the tip, Mike.

This thing feels so close. I hope it doesn't explode in TG's face (there's some serious and deep anger toward him in open-wheel circles--I'd hate to even imagine what they'd say if the deal doesn't get done this time too!). Realistically, I think TG could ride it out for one more year, and Champ Car would be done anyway. But I hope it ends more gracefully than that. I'd rather see the two series merged together than have the IRL simply picking through the remains of Champ Car.

I'm confident there are good, honest people on both "sides" (in CC and IRL). No need to demonize everyone from the other camp, in my opinion.

If this happens, I'll be heading to Indy for my very first 500...

“Waiting to inhale”

Since: Feb 07

Chicago

#110 Feb 11, 2008
I'm glad I already have my Stand J tickets secured! I understand things are tightening up a little bit for hotels and tickets. I'm sure the Speedway isn't sold out yet...but this is shaping up to be the first year since '97 where ticket brokers may have a market again.
Daniel wrote:
Great tip on Walker--I hadn't seen that article. Thanks for the tip, Mike.
This thing feels so close. I hope it doesn't explode in TG's face (there's some serious and deep anger toward him in open-wheel circles--I'd hate to even imagine what they'd say if the deal doesn't get done this time too!). Realistically, I think TG could ride it out for one more year, and Champ Car would be done anyway. But I hope it ends more gracefully than that. I'd rather see the two series merged together than have the IRL simply picking through the remains of Champ Car.
I'm confident there are good, honest people on both "sides" (in CC and IRL). No need to demonize everyone from the other camp, in my opinion.
If this happens, I'll be heading to Indy for my very first 500...
steve

Chillicothe, OH

#111 Feb 11, 2008
Geo wrote:
<quoted text>
Fix your grammar mistakes first before anyone will take your opinions seriously.
ok blue hair in florida, go play shuffleboard
Gary

Alexandria, IN

#112 Feb 11, 2008
Whatever happens, it's time for all of the hate and finger pointing to come to an end. It is what it is.... let's just move on. You could see it coming back in the late 70's when CART was formed. Not many success stories when the sailors run the ship. True, the IRL has not been a model organization. But,had racing followed the CART model, does anyone think the result would have been any better? This is omething we will never know. But I'm guessing no. If there is a unification, the first thing that has to happen is to reverse the "brainwashing" that NASCAR has been so successful at with the American public. That will be a tough one. I guess time will tell. There has been a positive note from this so called "split". I made my first trip to Indy in 1961. Watching the roadsters with Sachs, Foyt and Jones. Qualifications and practice were it for a lot of us.(unless you wanted to sit in the infield zoo) Now, I have 5 prime location seats locked in for renewal each year. See... there is a bright side.

Since: Aug 07

AOL

#113 Feb 11, 2008
Indycarmike57 wrote:
I'm glad I already have my Stand J tickets secured! I understand things are tightening up a little bit for hotels and tickets. I'm sure the Speedway isn't sold out yet...but this is shaping up to be the first year since '97 where ticket brokers may have a market again.
<quoted text>
I moved to the Paddock, let me tell you Mike tickets went a lot faster then usual. I wanted to get into turn 1 and sit in E well last year it was possible this year isn't even an option. My Dad sits in the middle of that turn and has an awesome view. Well my boyfriend doesn't care too much about racing so I moved from A the end of the pits to Paddock so he could see the festivities instead. I can't wait it wont be long :)

Since: Aug 07

AOL

#114 Feb 11, 2008
Curt is a very nice guy, he'll be at the track this Sunday for an event to benefit Rick Volger as well as show the Daytona 500. Before deciding he's bitter against Miller meet him because he's not. He has a good job and loves his life!

Since: Aug 07

AOL

#115 Feb 11, 2008
steve wrote:
<quoted text>racing chic your a idiot robin miller covers irl and cart has more contacts than any reporter in open wheel racing and is flown all over the world by speed tv. on the other hand cavin goes to a few races otherwise hes parked on his a** at the star behind a desk.get your facts straight racing chic .
The facts are shrub I live in Indy I get my news from Cavin. Robin Millers articles are non existent because I get my news elsewhere. Now instead of worrying about me someone you've never met work on you, you're a bitter person so get over me.

Since: Aug 07

AOL

#116 Feb 11, 2008
Geo wrote:
<quoted text>
Fix your grammar mistakes first before anyone will take your opinions seriously.
Hey he's not bothering me just another nut job who talks trash online, can't fix stupid or he'd be fixed by now, not going to happen. Thanks :)
Blugruv

Los Angeles, CA

#117 Feb 11, 2008
mindy wrote:
<quoted text>Hey,way off Topic here but can you tell me something if you are in Whittier ,Ca (probably spelled it wrong,sorry)but on 11100 or 11110 can't remember,been too long (Firestone Avenue) I worked for Home Club as a manager,then it went to Home Base,is it still there? We used to Bowl in Whittier every Wednesday i think it was....sorry to be off topic all,had to ask! ;-)
I couldn't say. Whitter is where my ISP is. I'm at least 30 miles from there. Sorry

“"Racing Rules"”

Since: Dec 06

NHRA

#119 Feb 11, 2008
Blugruv wrote:
<quoted text>
I couldn't say. Whitter is where my ISP is. I'm at least 30 miles from there. Sorry
OK....NO PROB,HELLO ANYWAY! ;-)

Since: Aug 07

AOL

#120 Feb 11, 2008
steve wrote:
<quoted text>typical i knew you wouldnt go point to point on my posts the facts remain ROBIN MILLER IS THE MOST TRAVELED OPEN WHEEL REPORTER IN THE COUNTRY BAR NONE!THE STAR WONT SEND CAVIN TO EVERY RACE CHECKMATE !
Ok get over me now, be gone, it's safe to think I think you're a loser and you don't like me. Thank God! Schooooooo.

Since: Aug 07

AOL

#121 Feb 11, 2008
mindy wrote:
<quoted text>OK....NO PROB,HELLO ANYWAY! ;-)
Hey Mindy see my new little friend, he he, quit a quack!

Since: Aug 07

AOL

#122 Feb 11, 2008
http://www.speedtv.com/site/article/open-whee...

There you go freak here's Miller you're god. BTW Curt gave me the link, lol.

Since: Aug 07

AOL

#123 Feb 11, 2008

“Waiting to inhale”

Since: Feb 07

Chicago

#124 Feb 11, 2008
It looks like the meeting went well!

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...

“"Racing Rules"”

Since: Dec 06

NHRA

#125 Feb 11, 2008
Lets go racing wrote:
http://www.speedtv.com/site/ar ticle/open-wheel-peace-at-hand /
There you go freak here's Miller you're god. BTW Curt gave me the link, lol.
COOL!

“"Racing Rules"”

Since: Dec 06

NHRA

#126 Feb 11, 2008
Indycarmike57 wrote:
It looks like the meeting went well!
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...
hey you! ;-)
Lets go Racing

AOL

#127 Feb 11, 2008
Indycarmike57 wrote:
It looks like the meeting went well!
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...
Now Mike did you get that info. from Curt? The Curt bashers will get you, he he.

Yiphee! I hope they make an announcement. We're going out there this weekend to watch the Nascar race and that would be the perfect time to announce. You betcha I will be asking!

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