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#41 Dec 6, 2012
Linda Bledsoe wrote:
You know something, you are right. I shouldn't have called you a troll and I certainly understand your opinions. My rebuttal was of a semantic nature more than anything else and it is not that important. For the record, I am not a Christian. ;)
oh my God, hell just froze over, did you just tell someone they were right? hope stalin and hitler are having a snowball fight
Linda Bledsoe

Pittsburgh, PA

#42 Dec 6, 2012
floored wrote:
<quoted text>oh my God, hell just froze over, did you just tell someone they were right? hope stalin and hitler are having a snowball fight
He was right. I am certainly not above admitting when I make a mistake. I do think that person misunderstands the true application of agnosticism vs. atheism vs. theism, but the points were valid and I was arguing semantics, which is sometimes fun but rarely a strong position. I crossed the line when I accused him of trolling. ;)
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#43 Dec 6, 2012
I was going to discuss the statement made by Blue collar, Reasearch has actually shown the more intelligent/educated a person is, the more likely they are to be an atheist but at the last moment i noticed the word likely, a modifier. I was going to bring up Augustine. At what point of education would Augustine reach atheism. On the contrary, he was very educated and intelligent but remained nonathiest. But Blue collar inserted the word likely, a modifier, meaning not necessarily or not one hundred percently, likely meaning not necessarily. the word inserts the possibility an intelligent/educated person might believe in God or a god.

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#44 Dec 6, 2012
Linda Bledsoe wrote:
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I think you are confusing atheist with agnostic. There is a big difference. Still, I understand your opinion on the topic.
Atheism is still a form of faith, and by your logic the education and credentials don't support any kind of faith. That is why I think you are talking about agnostics, which is absolute lack of faith.
You have it backwards.

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#45 Dec 6, 2012
Linda Bledsoe wrote:
You know something, you are right. I shouldn't have called you a troll and I certainly understand your opinions. My rebuttal was of a semantic nature more than anything else and it is not that important. For the record, I am not a Christian. ;)
Wow...wasn't expecting that. Score one point for civilized discussion. Thanks!

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#46 Dec 6, 2012
dunadd wrote:
I was going to discuss the statement made by Blue collar, Reasearch has actually shown the more intelligent/educated a person is, the more likely they are to be an atheist but at the last moment i noticed the word likely, a modifier. I was going to bring up Augustine. At what point of education would Augustine reach atheism. On the contrary, he was very educated and intelligent but remained nonathiest. But Blue collar inserted the word likely, a modifier, meaning not necessarily or not one hundred percently, likely meaning not necessarily. the word inserts the possibility an intelligent/educated person might believe in God or a god.
I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. I am NOT saying that a more educated individual is more likely to be atheist as opposed to being a believer in a god. Even among the highly educated, more are believers than are atheists. The only group where atheists outnumber theists is among those with PhDs in physics, chemistry, and biology. What I am saying is that if you had three people, one with a high school education, one with a bachelors, and one with a PhD, all three of them are more likely to be believers than atheist, however, if one of them were to be an atheist, the best bet would be the PhD.

Field of study matters as well. Obviously a PhD in theology would throw a wrench in it all, whereas chemistry and physics degree holders are more skewed towards atheism than any other fields.
Linda Bledsoe

Pittsburgh, PA

#47 Dec 7, 2012
Jupiter wrote:
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You have it backwards.
Nope, but thanks for your significant contribution to the topic at hand. ;)

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