Scouts may lift ban on gays

[Rick in Kansas]

Momma wrote:

I believe the issue is more about scout leaders not scout ranks.

The ban prohibits lesbian and gay scout leaders, but it also prohibits participation by gay youth and announcing that you are not heterosexual is grounds for expulsion for any boy already in the program, no matter how long, whether they have ever acted on their announced same sex attractions or not.

[Rainbow Kid]

Truth-Hurts wrote:

<quoted text>THIS is exactly why I'm so adamant about this topic. My sister is "gay"...NOW. She moved away and moved in with a couple of roommates to save on rent and feel safer than living alone. They were gay. Over time she started hanging out with them and their friends, isolating herself to just those people. Her personality completely changed. She went from a typical girl who took pride in her appearance and dating guys to someone unrecognizable. She gained weight, cut all her hair off, obviously stopped taking care of herself...it was sad to watch. She was NOT "born that way", she was INFLUENCED, the same way people who hang with drug abusers start using.

She's not gay
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A gay person wouldn't be caught dead or alive looking like trash
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Check for drugs

[Rainbow Kid]

Questioning wrote:

a virtual gay explosion would likely occur

What a great idea!
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We should add virtual gay explosions to our Pride Parades

[Truth-Hurts]

Rick in Kansas wrote:

<quoted text>Most of us actually stayed awake during high school science class to remember what empirical evidence is. You've reminded us, for some reason, with a Wikipedia link after whining about a Wikipedia link. Now reminded what constitutes empirical evidence means and knowing that science which meets that definition of empirical evidence has been posted for you, what now? You've seemed to have completely forgotten to actually go anywhere with this.

I have no desire to argue your "facts" or you. My intention is only to put out alternative information/facts, because unfortunately, just as I didn't pay attention in high school, most people don't pay attention to anything other than what the media spouts off, and that just happens to fall under the "guidelines" and manipulation of GLAAD.

[Truth-Hurts]

Rainbow Kid wrote:

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She's not gay
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A gay person wouldn't be caught dead or alive looking like trash
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Check for drugs

She has a partner and identifies herself as gay. She's not involved with drugs, in fact, she just had a baby. She crossed over just enough to get pregnant. The "father" isn't involved.

[Momma]

Rainbow Kid wrote:

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She's not gay
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A gay person wouldn't be caught dead or alive looking like trash
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Check for drugs

I'd have to disagree. I see plenty of lesbians who dress shabbily.

[Rainbow Kid]

Momma wrote:

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I'd have to disagree. I see plenty of lesbians who dress shabbily.

How do you know they are lesbians?
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Did you take a test drive?

[Questioning]

Rainbow Kid wrote:

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How do you know they are lesbians?
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Did you take a test drive?

You see. That is what epitomizes what I would desire to keep my child away from. Enjoy your virtual gay explosions, just keep 'em away from the straight folk and damn sure away from the kids. We know it to be abnormal. Kids have to be taught what is acceptable and what isn't. Folks don't need others circumventing their parenting. To attempt to do so isn't a right, it is an intrusion upon the rights of others.

[Rainbow Kid]

Truth-Hurts wrote:

<quoted text>She has a partner and identifies herself as gay. She's not involved with drugs, in fact, she just had a baby. She crossed over just enough to get pregnant. The "father" isn't involved.

She's not gay
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GAY and STRAIGHT means a person is born with 'absolute' 100% homosexual or heterosexual orientation and 'never' crosses over; even at gunpoint. The idea of crossover is repulsive to the extreme! This is what Leviticus tries to explain; but the fundies are too stupid to figure that out; even when we show them this picture:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
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A person who is attracted to 'both' sexes was born with bi-sexual orientation; and can 'choose' back and forth at will
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Such is the case with your example

[Lililth_Satans_B ore]

DavidM wrote:

Why should a boy's sexual orientation exclude him from girl scouts? Lets let strieght men be girl scout leaders.
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hey dumbazz... the girl scouts do have and have allowed men to be girl scout leaders... look it up on you know ... google... if you don't believe me... now run along stupid

[Rainbow Kid]

Questioning wrote:

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You see. That is what epitomizes what I would desire to keep my child away from. Enjoy your virtual gay explosions, just keep 'em away from the straight folk and damn sure away from the kids. We know it to be abnormal. Kids have to be taught what is acceptable and what isn't. Folks don't need others circumventing their parenting. To attempt to do so isn't a right, it is an intrusion upon the rights of others.

Your mental block stops you from learning about gay people
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Its amusing when clueless people come into our Gay Chat Room to make fools of themselves telling real live borngay people what being gay is like
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We are the experts; 'not you'; sugar
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Ask; don't tell
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;o))

[Rainbow Kid]

Questioning wrote:

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You see. That is what epitomizes what I would desire to keep my child away from. Enjoy your virtual gay explosions, just keep 'em away from the straight folk and damn sure away from the kids. We know it to be abnormal. Kids have to be taught what is acceptable and what isn't. Folks don't need others circumventing their parenting. To attempt to do so isn't a right, it is an intrusion upon the rights of others.

If you tell your gay kid a lie; you will lose 100% credibility forever; and quite likely you kid will walk out the door and 'never' return
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So you need to pay attention during these free counseling sessions when you're visiting our TOPIX Gay Chat rooms

[Questioning]

Rainbow Kid wrote:

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If you tell your gay kid a lie; you will lose 100% credibility forever; and quite likely you kid will walk out the door and 'never' return
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So you need to pay attention during these free counseling sessions when you're visiting our TOPIX Gay Chat rooms

Try this. It isn't a gay chat room numbnuts. It is a topic thread on the Indianapolis Forum. I had considered that with you being so enlightened and all that you would have figured that out. That is exactly why I wouldn't want my young influential child around you. Incidentally, my adult kids are straight. Their kids, as far as we know, are straight. I wouldn't permit anyone to try to change that. Free counseling sessions? are you stupid or what? I don't require counseling, I'm not gay. My life is normal, has been normal for nearly sixty years, and I expect will continue to be normal until I die and my ashes blow away. I certainly don't expect to willingly permit a peter in my ass while I'm still breathing. But some folks are hard up. That is the reason for the Boy Scout schenanigans. Now, are you up to reasonable contributions or just going to remain frustrated and aggressive? I know that I am right, what are you? Aside from twisted?

[Questioning]

Oh, that born gay crap.... It's exactly that. Crap. Sell it to someone less intelligent and less weathered than me. This old goat has actually seen shit. San Francisco in the seventies and eighties. One of the reasons I am in Indiana.

[Questioning]

I can enlighten you to some good gay bars not too far from the Embarcadero, if you're interested. And another decent one a street or two over from golden gate park. Or they used to be decent.

[Lililth_Satans_B ore]

Questioning wrote:

Oh, that born gay crap.... It's exactly that. Crap. Sell it to someone less intelligent and less weathered than me. This old goat has actually seen shit. San Francisco in the seventies and eighties. One of the reasons I am in Indiana.

Then you would think you would be smarter, but guess you can't fix stupid as in your case... what a shame

[Lililth_Satans_B ore]

Questioning wrote:

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I know that I am right, what are you? Aside from twisted?

ya...ok... sure.... mr dumbazz

[Rainbow Kid]

Questioning wrote:

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Try this. It isn't a gay chat room numbnuts. It is a topic thread on the Indianapolis Forum. I had considered that with you being so enlightened and all that you would have figured that out. That is exactly why I wouldn't want my young influential child around you. Free counseling sessions? are you stupid or what? I don't require counseling, I'm not gay. My life is normal, has been normal for nearly sixty years, and I expect will continue to be normal until I die and my ashes blow away. I certainly don't expect to willingly permit a peter in my ass while I'm still breathing. But some folks are hard up. That is the reason for the Boy Scout schenanigans. Now, are you up to reasonable contributions or just going to remain frustrated and aggressive? I know that I am right, what are you? Aside from twisted?

You AND the Boy Scouts are confusing sex orientation with Sociopathic Pedophilia; two totally unrelated subjects:
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Profile of the Sociopath
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Glibness and Superficial Charm
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Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
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Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
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Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
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Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
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Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
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Incapacity for Love
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Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
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Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
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Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
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Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
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Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
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Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
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Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
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Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
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[Rick in Kansas]

Truth-Hurts wrote:

I have no desire to argue your "facts" or you.

Not "facts' dear, facts, proven truths, scientifically established evidence of just how little you actually know. It isn't that you don't want to argue the facts, the simple reality is that you can't. All you have to offer is raging misinformed ignorance and irrational hatreds.

Truth-Hurts wrote:

My intention is only to put out alternative information/facts, because unfortunately, just as I didn't pay attention in high school, most people don't pay attention to anything other than what the media spouts off, and that just happens to fall under the "guidelines" and manipulation of GLAAD.

Toots, the only facts you have even attempted to offer were HIV infection rates and a quote from a group called GLAAD that you claimed hid facts, but you couldn't figure out what facts they were trying to hide, but you darn well know they must be trying to hide them, they're gay. The reality is that you are noting more than a miseducated moron who sought out "facts" to rationalize some pretty irrational bigotries. You should be ashamed of yourself but you're too flocking clueless to realize it.

[Rainbow Kid]

Questioning wrote:

I can enlighten you to some good gay bars not too far from the Embarcadero, if you're interested. And another decent one a street or two over from golden gate park. Or they used to be decent.

Your Gay Bar must have One Killer Wi-fi!!!
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You computer is picking up our Gay Chat Room very well
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sugar ;o))